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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 17 2013 22:33 GMT
#2121
On November 18 2013 07:32 Dodgin wrote:
I have to say this constant XMG stuff is really annoying, I understand why it's necessary though.

They gotta learn how to plug products like Husky:

Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
November 17 2013 22:33 GMT
#2122
On November 18 2013 07:26 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:19 Waise wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:16 forsooth wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:12 RoranRock wrote:
so yeah, zerg can't win in end game TvZ : symbol has been multitasking crazy but no, at the end he's loosing

Yup, Symbol was the only one attacking multiple places at the same time. Jjakji wasn't constantly dropping all over the place at all.

i'm not complaining about balance, but spreading single medivac drops in late game on huge maps like that isn't exactly gosu level play, it's neither difficult nor expensive for terran whereas zerg has a much harder time managing a hive tech army and defending without letting mules take the game over exactly as happened here

not imba, just a fact about how macro tvz tends to play out because of each race's respective strengths/weaknesses

Jjakji even managing to secure as many bases as he did for any length of time, particularly on a map like that, is extremely impressive play in and of itself. Either that, or evidence of shortcomings in Symbol's own. Anything over 4 really shouldn't be possible against a Zerg who's on his game.

In any case, both players played extremely well but Jjakji's super clutch engagement against the brood lord army was what enabled him to get into a winning position.

Symbol decided to go hive tech so not enough mutalisks to deny bases. If he doesn't go for hive he fells behind in upgrades.
Such a great game anyway
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 17 2013 22:34 GMT
#2123
On November 18 2013 07:31 tns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Let's get some hype for the finals here.

Poll: Head

TaeJa (29)
 
81%

HyuN (7)
 
19%

36 total votes

Your vote: Head

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): HyuN



Poll: Heart

TaeJa (24)
 
59%

HyuN (17)
 
41%

41 total votes

Your vote: Heart

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): HyuN


how can Hyun so down on votes!!??

Taeja is a top 10 player in the world. Hyun isn't on his level plain and simple.
QO Feasting
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 17 2013 22:34 GMT
#2124
On November 18 2013 07:32 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:32 75 wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:31 JustPassingBy wrote:
Who were the casters? I missed it...

did they already mention it?

incontrol, rotty and daishi

aw nice.
i was hoping for incontrol, rotti, dayshi and stephano
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
ShuttingFromTheSky
Profile Joined December 2011
Japan199 Posts
November 17 2013 22:34 GMT
#2125
On November 18 2013 07:32 Dodgin wrote:
I have to say this constant XMG stuff is really annoying, I understand why it's necessary though.

Maybe you can sponsor the next HSC, maybe it will be less boring then.
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
November 17 2013 22:34 GMT
#2126
Gogo, Hyun!
I don't really play "legit" SC2 anymore but the Terran in me wants to see Zerg win so I can Q_Q about them being imba :D
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
November 17 2013 22:35 GMT
#2127
On November 18 2013 07:34 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:31 tns wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Let's get some hype for the finals here.

Poll: Head

TaeJa (29)
 
81%

HyuN (7)
 
19%

36 total votes

Your vote: Head

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): HyuN



Poll: Heart

TaeJa (24)
 
59%

HyuN (17)
 
41%

41 total votes

Your vote: Heart

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): HyuN


how can Hyun so down on votes!!??

Taeja is a top 10 player in the world. Hyun isn't on his level plain and simple.

Reaching the finals and qualifying for both Red Bull Battlegrounds and DreamHack Winter seem pretty good. Seems a bit cruel to say HyuN isn't on TaeJa's level.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 17 2013 22:35 GMT
#2128
On November 18 2013 07:34 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:32 Topin wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:32 75 wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:31 JustPassingBy wrote:
Who were the casters? I missed it...

did they already mention it?

incontrol, rotty and daishi

aw nice.
i was hoping for incontrol, rotti, dayshi and stephano


Called it, TvZ and majority of the casters are protoss. :D
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
November 17 2013 22:35 GMT
#2129
On November 18 2013 07:26 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:19 Waise wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:16 forsooth wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:12 RoranRock wrote:
so yeah, zerg can't win in end game TvZ : symbol has been multitasking crazy but no, at the end he's loosing

Yup, Symbol was the only one attacking multiple places at the same time. Jjakji wasn't constantly dropping all over the place at all.

i'm not complaining about balance, but spreading single medivac drops in late game on huge maps like that isn't exactly gosu level play, it's neither difficult nor expensive for terran whereas zerg has a much harder time managing a hive tech army and defending without letting mules take the game over exactly as happened here

not imba, just a fact about how macro tvz tends to play out because of each race's respective strengths/weaknesses

Jjakji even managing to secure as many bases as he did for any length of time, particularly on a map like that, is extremely impressive play in and of itself. Either that, or evidence of shortcomings in Symbol's own. Anything over 4 really shouldn't be possible against a Zerg who's on his game.

In any case, both players played extremely well but Jjakji's super clutch engagement against the brood lord army was what enabled him to get into a winning position.



As much as people would like to blame that game on mules and marines, that game was symbols to lose in the end. Every masteful move he made that led up to a diverse army with broodlords, expansions all over his side of the map, and nydus canals at each end of the map, he threw away by not properly defending his expansions, not properly denying Jjakji's (yes he would stop them initially, but J would just move right back and drop mules), and throwing his army away in that awful engagement in which he lost all his brood lords. That might've even been the turning point right there.

Also, burrowed lings to block expos>all
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#2130
On November 18 2013 07:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:34 bourne117 wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:31 tns wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Let's get some hype for the finals here.

Poll: Head

TaeJa (29)
 
81%

HyuN (7)
 
19%

36 total votes

Your vote: Head

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): HyuN



Poll: Heart

TaeJa (24)
 
59%

HyuN (17)
 
41%

41 total votes

Your vote: Heart

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): HyuN


how can Hyun so down on votes!!??

Taeja is a top 10 player in the world. Hyun isn't on his level plain and simple.

Reaching the finals and qualifying for both Red Bull Battlegrounds and DreamHack Winter seem pretty good. Seems a bit cruel to say HyuN isn't on TaeJa's level.

well we will soon see if Hyun is on Taeja's level.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#2131
On November 18 2013 07:35 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:34 75 wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:32 Topin wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:32 75 wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:31 JustPassingBy wrote:
Who were the casters? I missed it...

did they already mention it?

incontrol, rotty and daishi

aw nice.
i was hoping for incontrol, rotti, dayshi and stephano


Called it, TvZ and majority of the casters are protoss. :D

A majority of casters are protoss...
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#2132
On November 18 2013 07:34 Azelja wrote:
Gogo, Hyun!
I don't really play "legit" SC2 anymore but the Terran in me wants to see Zerg win so I can Q_Q about them being imba :D

finally a terran who admits that attitude
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#2133
no pro zerg player who wanted to comentate the final ? :/
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
November 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#2134
Isn't Incontrol pretty warm in that sponsor jacket? o.o
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-17 22:37:15
November 17 2013 22:37 GMT
#2135
I wonder if Need for Seat upped the sponsorship for HSC, seeing as everyone and their mum uses them now and HSC were the first to plug them
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 17 2013 22:37 GMT
#2136
so 2 protoss gonna cast tvz?
yo
Grollicus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany287 Posts
November 17 2013 22:37 GMT
#2137
incontrol takes as much space on the couch as the other two together..
Read. | Show me your Healthbars
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 17 2013 22:37 GMT
#2138
On November 18 2013 07:32 Dodgin wrote:
I have to say this constant XMG stuff is really annoying, I understand why it's necessary though.


I still think it's better than BF4 spam. Also having flashbacks to the WCS Season 1 Finals (maybe) when essentially every twitch ad was Crysis 3 with ZZ Top in the background. Ugh.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-17 22:40:54
November 17 2013 22:38 GMT
#2139
Liquid`Nazgul: Who do you play for?!

Liquid`Taeja: Taeja Eruzione, Winthrop Massachusetts.. I play for the.. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!

-Do you believe in miracles?! YES!!!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 17 2013 22:38 GMT
#2140
On November 18 2013 07:37 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:32 Dodgin wrote:
I have to say this constant XMG stuff is really annoying, I understand why it's necessary though.


I still think it's better than BF4 spam. Also having flashbacks to the WCS Season 1 Finals (maybe) when essentially every twitch ad was Crysis 3 with ZZ Top in the background. Ugh.


IPTL, 10 hours of the red ad thingy.
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