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hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 18:43:15
November 16 2013 18:42 GMT
#1381
Jjakji will SCV pull...

On November 17 2013 03:42 DJHelium wrote:
Haha wow I'm so nervous, heart is beating like crazy. jj looking good so far.

Same here.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 16 2013 18:42 GMT
#1382
On November 17 2013 03:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:36 KalWarkov wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:29 KalWarkov wrote:
please... you dont even know what ur talking about :/
fact of the matter is:
- protoss cant beat a army consisting of 25 ghosts, 20 vikings, 15 medivacs, mass scans
- terran has the hardest time getting to that army, because
- protoss is slightly favored in "normal" mid and lategame, when T has mostly MMM with some vikings and ghosts.

can we at least agree on that?

An army with ~6 Tempests and 7-8 Colossi + whatever ground is needed (mainly Stalkers/HTs) with Observers in Move command behind Colossi can easily decimate that precious army the Terran spent 10 minuts building. After that, your much faster remax, combined with the fact Terran is contained on 4 or 5 bases while Protoss has the rest of the map will allow you to win easily.


till i see this, i have to disagree. maybe if you add storm, cannons, and revelation into the mix. 7-8 colossi is overkill. he will just build even more vikings and then what :O

Then watch aLive vs First on Whirlwind from Season 2 Finals.


Someone remembers existed and played games. What is this?


who ?
Terran & Potato Salad.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 18:43 GMT
#1383
jjakji stimmed a lone marine that the oracle coulda caught and killed, but he move not amoved it back to his main marine force. so SMART o.O
jjakji fan
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
November 16 2013 18:43 GMT
#1384
M_Dayshi ‏@M_Dayshi
@M_Dayshi: @acernerchio i heard you went back to pologne.. Cmon i hope its not my fault :D we miss you <3
https://twitter.com/M_Dayshi/status/401781670174818304

moar drama!
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 16 2013 18:44 GMT
#1385
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 03:37 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:33 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:31 Prog wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:28 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:21 Zarahtra wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:15 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:12 Zarahtra wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:11 miniskirt wrote:
[quote]
can't he see his own mistakes, geez

Makes me a bit sad. I mean there are situations where I can understand being whiny, there are situations where your mistakes aren't really big so you don't notice them, but he was playing pretty damn bad, far below his skill level, so I expected him to be furious about himself, not Happy...

He surely is furious about the whole situation.

You do realize that when you play SC2 games professionally on that level, there´s no marging for error and you can exploit the map however you like to your advantage. ToD just wasn´t prepared that Happy would do such a thing.

And ToD probably already thought he had won. Something like that would kill almost everyone´s mindset.

You are making it sound like Happy did something wrong on that tie game. ToD had options to actually win in that situation but didn't use it, he played bad, so it's frustrating to me that you make it sound that way. Happy played to win. The rules of the game are set before the game, fair has little to do with it. Anything can be made sound unfair with your logic, and building lifting would certainly go very very very low on my list of that whinefest.

It´s actually you who wants to read it like that. ToD just wasn´t prepared to compete at that "low" level of mindgames. If you know you lost, all you can do is try to exploit something, so you actually could turn it around. So he used the map to his advantage. There was nothing bad about how ToD played until this moment, ToD just wasn´t prepared for something like that, which you could clearly see when you just went in to kill the buildings.

It´s like the example I gave with CS.

If your enemy shots at you and you only have 2% health left, all you can do is run and hide or flat-out die. Now, a really "intelligent?" player would try to hide forever to not be caught. And if the other player doesn´t find him (he cannot kill him, can he?), it suddenly is a tie? That would be a first. I have never ever seen such a thing happen, because every pro player in CS would be ashamed of himself, and to good reason.


You never played CS, did you? If you just hide you lose because either you cannot stop the terrorists from getting the bomb ready, or you yourself cannot deploy the bomb. And still sometimes you need to hide to safe your weapon for the next round. Hence: Terrible example.

Dude, that was just an example when playing 1 vs. 1. Not the normal CS mode where you need to defuse the bomb. If you don´t like that example, use Quake deathmatch or something else. My point still stands.


One would have thought that being the SINGLE person in the whole thread who has a problem with flying buildings, you would after some time start to realize that you're on a mute point. But no. I admire your persistence.

It's not the flying buildings, IT'S THE MAP!

Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
November 16 2013 18:44 GMT
#1386
Starcraft needs an achievement if you kill an oracle off creep with a queen
리노크 👑
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
November 16 2013 18:44 GMT
#1387
Hm. It might be kind of useful since you can tag vision on rocks with Oracles. You could possibly use it to spot army movement.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 16 2013 18:44 GMT
#1388
Scv pull. This is risky.
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manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
November 16 2013 18:44 GMT
#1389
On November 17 2013 03:41 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 03:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:36 KalWarkov wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:29 KalWarkov wrote:
please... you dont even know what ur talking about :/
fact of the matter is:
- protoss cant beat a army consisting of 25 ghosts, 20 vikings, 15 medivacs, mass scans
- terran has the hardest time getting to that army, because
- protoss is slightly favored in "normal" mid and lategame, when T has mostly MMM with some vikings and ghosts.

can we at least agree on that?

An army with ~6 Tempests and 7-8 Colossi + whatever ground is needed (mainly Stalkers/HTs) with Observers in Move command behind Colossi can easily decimate that precious army the Terran spent 10 minuts building. After that, your much faster remax, combined with the fact Terran is contained on 4 or 5 bases while Protoss has the rest of the map will allow you to win easily.


till i see this, i have to disagree. maybe if you add storm, cannons, and revelation into the mix. 7-8 colossi is overkill. he will just build even more vikings and then what :O


This is mostly speculation. Most late game scenarios play out with one big fight and in most games I saw, protoss wins that fight if terran is unable to do significant damage up to that point.

Those scenarios you guys mention happen so rarely that it is stupid to say who would win...


but happy does it literally every 2nd game.
and most terrans just dont seem to feel the urge to learn how to use the super army.
whatever. pvt is def. not unwinnable for T in lategame. saying that is just plain stupid


You pretty much found it. Most terran players are just too lazy, and protoss players are simply superior in character willing to learn how to master the ever so difficult art of storming and a moving. So that's why we prefer trying to out drop in 3 seperate places and attack the front at the same time rather then learn how to outmaneuver a late game protoss and consistently apply it. It's just because we're a lazy race.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 16 2013 18:44 GMT
#1390
Titan again throwing game away by planting down 3rd nexus?
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 18:45 GMT
#1391
That oracle never dies :O

now it does ^^
jjakji fan
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 16 2013 18:45 GMT
#1392
Redbull doing the #hsc

Red Bull ‏@redbull 4m
@PaulChaloner You still watching #hsc ? Come check out Scarlett HyuN and MC battle again Nov 23-24. #battlegroundsNYC http://win.gs/grounds


Note, that's not redbull esports.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 16 2013 18:45 GMT
#1393
SQUIRTLEEEEEEEEE
Moderator
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 16 2013 18:45 GMT
#1394
MC using revelation... then flies his oracle into the army
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 18:46:22
November 16 2013 18:45 GMT
#1395
so strange to see games on newkirk
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 18:45 GMT
#1396
ok, the SCVs T_T this might not go well
jjakji fan
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
November 16 2013 18:45 GMT
#1397
On November 17 2013 03:43 miniskirt wrote:
M_Dayshi ‏@M_Dayshi
Show nested quote +
@M_Dayshi: @acernerchio i heard you went back to pologne.. Cmon i hope its not my fault :D we miss you <3
https://twitter.com/M_Dayshi/status/401781670174818304

moar drama!

What happened? I missed Dayshi vs Nerchio...
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#1398
On November 17 2013 03:45 Musicus wrote:
Redbull doing the #hsc

Show nested quote +
Red Bull ‏@redbull 4m
@PaulChaloner You still watching #hsc ? Come check out Scarlett HyuN and MC battle again Nov 23-24. #battlegroundsNYC http://win.gs/grounds


Note, that's not redbull esports.


I think its kinda cheap that they are spamming everyone on twitter with that.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#1399
Jjakji has a decent scv count still, what is this?
Moderator
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 18:46:48
November 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#1400
zomg Symbol snipe the cyber core if you're muta switching <_>

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