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On November 10 2013 11:25 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:21 Musicus wrote:Ok ok wait. Poll: Who is the Mutalisk?Jaedong (17) 74% DRG (6) 26% 23 total votes Your vote: Who is the Mutalisk? (Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): DRG
July...
July should be the overlord to be honest ^^
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I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after sealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.
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On November 10 2013 11:24 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 10 2013 11:11 Godwrath wrote:On November 10 2013 11:09 stuchiu wrote:On November 10 2013 11:07 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 11:06 stuchiu wrote:
Myungsik can't be Phoenix because he's only shown up in one qualifier. And I'm not including upgrades for now. Just buildings and units. Sora? Sora did sick Phoenix play! Some spots I'll leave empty until some Toss really takes a spot. Good so far, now we need a Terran and Zerg pantheon. The terran is a bit obvious tho. Drone: ? Zergling: Life Overlord: ? Roach: Symbol or HyuN Hydra: ? Mutalisk: Jaedong or DRG Baneling: Leenock Infestor: Stephano or someone else Corruptor: Soulkey? Swarm Host: Stephano? Ultralisk: ? Brood Lord: ? Viper: ? So then for Terran... Marine: MKP Marauder: Polt Ghost: Mvp Hellbat: Innovation Hellion: entire Slayers team Widow Mine: Innovation Siege Tank: ? Thor: Thorzain Medivac: MMA Banshee: TheBest Viking: ? Battlecruiser: Mvp Raven: ?
Taeja for Ghost over MVP easily
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United States97274 Posts
On November 10 2013 11:25 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:24 forsooth wrote:On November 10 2013 11:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 10 2013 11:11 Godwrath wrote:On November 10 2013 11:09 stuchiu wrote:On November 10 2013 11:07 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 11:06 stuchiu wrote:
Myungsik can't be Phoenix because he's only shown up in one qualifier. And I'm not including upgrades for now. Just buildings and units. Sora? Sora did sick Phoenix play! Some spots I'll leave empty until some Toss really takes a spot. Good so far, now we need a Terran and Zerg pantheon. The terran is a bit obvious tho. Drone: ? Zergling: Life Overlord: ? Roach: Symbol or HyuN Hydra: ? Mutalisk: Jaedong or DRG Baneling: Leenock Infestor: Stephano or someone else Corruptor: Soulkey? Swarm Host: Stephano? Ultralisk: ? Brood Lord: ? Viper: ? So then for Terran... Marine: MKP Marauder: Polt Ghost: Mvp Hellbat: Innovation Hellion: entire Slayers team Widow Mine: Innovation Siege Tank: ? Thor: Thorzain Medivac: MMA Banshee: TheBest Viking: ? Battlecruiser: Mvp Raven: ? Raven could be Mvp/Rain/Bomber. Mvp -> for TvT. Rain for him vs Boxer at Anaheim. Bomber for him vs Goswer at MLG. Which one?
Bomber pretty much has to be mule imo
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Obviously bomber. No bias here.
Edit - yeah, mule would work too.
On November 10 2013 11:26 bourne117 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:24 forsooth wrote:On November 10 2013 11:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 10 2013 11:11 Godwrath wrote:On November 10 2013 11:09 stuchiu wrote:On November 10 2013 11:07 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 11:06 stuchiu wrote:
Myungsik can't be Phoenix because he's only shown up in one qualifier. And I'm not including upgrades for now. Just buildings and units. Sora? Sora did sick Phoenix play! Some spots I'll leave empty until some Toss really takes a spot. Good so far, now we need a Terran and Zerg pantheon. The terran is a bit obvious tho. Drone: ? Zergling: Life Overlord: ? Roach: Symbol or HyuN Hydra: ? Mutalisk: Jaedong or DRG Baneling: Leenock Infestor: Stephano or someone else Corruptor: Soulkey? Swarm Host: Stephano? Ultralisk: ? Brood Lord: ? Viper: ? So then for Terran... Marine: MKP Marauder: Polt Ghost: Mvp Hellbat: Innovation Hellion: entire Slayers team Widow Mine: Innovation Siege Tank: ? Thor: Thorzain Medivac: MMA Banshee: TheBest Viking: ? Battlecruiser: Mvp Raven: ? Taeja for Ghost over MVP easily
No, MVP almost singlehandledly nerfed snipe because of his TvZ.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 10 2013 11:25 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:21 Musicus wrote:Ok ok wait. Poll: Who is the Mutalisk?Jaedong (17) 74% DRG (6) 26% 23 total votes Your vote: Who is the Mutalisk? (Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): DRG
July...
SC2 list man. In SC2, his Mutalisks were good,but not what made him who he was.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 10 2013 11:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:25 Godwrath wrote:
Oh true i forgot MVP was the real sniper. But namaa was also the first who exploited the hell out of pre nerf EMP with very quick ghost builds at TvP. Who was the guy who rushed ghosts in TvT pre-nerf to snipe marines?
I think that was a QXC build.
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United States97274 Posts
On November 10 2013 11:26 Neemi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On November 10 2013 11:21 Musicus wrote:Ok ok wait. Poll: Who is the Mutalisk?Jaedong (17) 74% DRG (6) 26% 23 total votes Your vote: Who is the Mutalisk? (Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): DRG
July... July should be the overlord to be honest ^^
July should be creep tumor
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On November 10 2013 11:17 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 10 2013 11:11 Godwrath wrote:On November 10 2013 11:09 stuchiu wrote:On November 10 2013 11:07 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 11:06 stuchiu wrote:
Myungsik can't be Phoenix because he's only shown up in one qualifier. And I'm not including upgrades for now. Just buildings and units. Sora? Sora did sick Phoenix play! Some spots I'll leave empty until some Toss really takes a spot. Good so far, now we need a Terran and Zerg pantheon. The terran is a bit obvious tho. Drone: ? Zergling: Life Overlord: ? Roach: Symbol or HyuN Hydra: ? Mutalisk: Jaedong or DRG Baneling: Leenock Infestor: Stephano or someone else Corruptor: Soulkey? Swarm Host: Stephano? Ultralisk: ? Brood Lord: ? Viper: ? Drone: Ret Overlord: Stephano Roach: Hyun Hydra: ?????? Mutalisk: DRG Baneling: Nestea Infestor: Freaky Corruptor: ???????? SH: ???????? Ultralisk: Suppy Brood Lord: Slivko Viper: ??????? Nydus: Symbol
curious: Muta/Ling/Baneling/Infester
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 10 2013 11:26 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On November 10 2013 11:25 Godwrath wrote:
Oh true i forgot MVP was the real sniper. But namaa was also the first who exploited the hell out of pre nerf EMP with very quick ghost builds at TvP. Who was the guy who rushed ghosts in TvT pre-nerf to snipe marines? I think that was a QXC build.
And Yoda. Both were made independently of each other.
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On November 10 2013 11:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:26 Neemi wrote:On November 10 2013 11:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On November 10 2013 11:21 Musicus wrote:Ok ok wait. Poll: Who is the Mutalisk?Jaedong (17) 74% DRG (6) 26% 23 total votes Your vote: Who is the Mutalisk? (Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): DRG
July... July should be the overlord to be honest ^^ July should be creep tumor
If we honestly make creep a unit, it's Scarlett.
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On November 10 2013 11:21 marcesr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:16 Ammanas wrote:On November 10 2013 11:09 marcesr wrote:On November 10 2013 11:07 Rostam wrote:On November 10 2013 11:01 DiLiGu wrote:On November 10 2013 10:59 liberate71 wrote:On November 10 2013 10:56 DiLiGu wrote:On November 10 2013 10:48 marcesr wrote:On November 10 2013 10:41 DiLiGu wrote:On November 10 2013 10:35 Rostam wrote:
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It's fucking boring if the same players are constantly placing high and winning every tournament. New fan favorites need to emerge for things to stay interesting. Just because he doesn't have a big fanbase now doesn't mean he never will, and it doesn't mean you should make 100 posts in this thread whining about how he's killing esports by not throwing the finals. There are several factors that produce increased fanfare in sports. Chief among them are Dynasties, Rivalries, and Underdogs. I love SC2. I absolutely love it. I watched every single match of WCS NA and EU this year. But the players with the most of each of the three items I mentioned simply keep not winning. What's the biggest rivalry in SC2? It's not IdrA vs MMA anymore. TL vs EG? They're besties now. When was the last Dynasty? Mvp? Everyone loves jurgen. Lost in RO16. Who was the biggest underdog story? NaNiwa, out in ro16. I'm not hating on sOs, I'm really not. He just doesn't do anything to grow the community. Try explaining him to a new viewer - you can't. He's not the BW god that came to SC2 and continued his legacy. He's not the only foreigner in a Korean-dominated world. He's not the up-and-coming young guy with sick micro. He's not the "new best zerg". He's not the "new best terran". He's not the aggressive Korean Protoss who learned English and has cool ceremonies. He's just some gamer. You make some very good points, even if most people in this thread disagree...but too much negativity wont help us either, to some extent you gotta accept SC2's problems. Thanks, I appreciate you for actually reading my posts. Have I balance whined once? Nope. Have I spoken ill of sOs as a player or person once? Nope. I've even defended him, because I personally enjoyed his playstyle.I'm not speaking as a hater, or some foaming-at-the-mouth Spike Lee racist caricature. I'm speaking a businessperson. What I want more than anything else is for SC2 to become a mainstream sport, to take the 4th most-watched spot after football, baseball, and basketball in America. But it's so freaking hard to grow a brand in this industry, when victories go to players like sOs. Were the games interesting? Absolutely. Was his play neat and innovative? Yes. Was anyone rooting for him at the start of the tournament? No (speaking for the newish foreign community hear, not for 15000+ post BW people). People don't like to see their favorites just fall by the wayside. Even the most seasoned SC2 viewers here had no idea that sOs was going to win, and did nothing to hype him coming into this tourney. All of the hype was around Soulkey, NaNiwa, Maru, INnoVation, Mvp, and MC. Hell, even HerO and TaeJa. Are you fucking SERIOUS? You called him a faceless korean that literally 0 people care about for about 30 pages of this thread. Tell me, how did Soulkey, NaNiwa, Maru, INnoVation, Mvp, and MC. Hell, even HerO and TaeJa all gain their hype? faeries? wizards? pixie dust? He IS faceless compared to those stars! How can you even compare!? I never once called him "all in protoss scum" (taken from another LR thread), or once balanced whined. To imply that, coming into the tourney, he controlled more than 1% of the total fanbase is absurd. Who cares? He's a great player, he has an interesting style, and this win will grant him a lot of exposure and fans. You seem to have this bizarre idea that fan favorites winning every tournament is somehow going to make SC2 into mainstream entertainment. There is no substance to such a claim. You know what will dictate SC2's popularity? The gameplay. That is it. As long as people are playing and watching the game, storylines will create themselves. How do you know that gameplay is the deciding factor? Because it always is. Look at any sport star. Messi. C.Ronaldo. Djokovic. Federer. Nadal. Malkin. Crosby. Shaquille O'Neal. Michael Jordan. Tiger Woods. Anyone from baseball or american football (sorry, don't know anything about those). TBLS in BW. Madlife and Faker in LoL. Literally ANY sports star. You know what they have in common? They are fucking BETTER in what they do, than everyone else. That's why they are superstars. That's why they have legions of (sometimes almost) fanatic fans. Not because of what they look like, not because of how they behave. The only 'sport' (which is actually a theater) that doesn't work that way is wrestling. And I hope nobody wants SC2 to become like wrestling... You know what the difference between your examples and Starcraft is? These sports provide diversity, imagine a world cup where 31 teams from Brazil would be competing. Also you dont have the same kind of stars in SC2 because the game is too volatile.
right... and NBA basketball (popular all over the world) has mostly black Americans. One of the things that WCS was trying to do was associate players with regions (the way most sports teams are associated with cities/regions/areas). Unfortunately that's only slightly succeeded. SC2 also has the played race to consider (many people cheer for P/T/Z regardless of player).
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On November 10 2013 11:26 Uncultured wrote:
I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after stealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.
i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.
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On November 10 2013 11:26 Neemi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On November 10 2013 11:21 Musicus wrote:Ok ok wait. Poll: Who is the Mutalisk?Jaedong (17) 74% DRG (6) 26% 23 total votes Your vote: Who is the Mutalisk? (Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): DRG
July... July should be the overlord to be honest ^^
July should be "Lair"
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On November 10 2013 11:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:26 Neemi wrote:On November 10 2013 11:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On November 10 2013 11:21 Musicus wrote:Ok ok wait. Poll: Who is the Mutalisk?Jaedong (17) 74% DRG (6) 26% 23 total votes Your vote: Who is the Mutalisk? (Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): DRG
July... July should be the overlord to be honest ^^ July should be creep tumor
That's just nasty
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Ok so who is the queen for Zerg?
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On November 10 2013 11:26 bourne117 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 11:24 forsooth wrote:On November 10 2013 11:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 10 2013 11:11 Godwrath wrote:On November 10 2013 11:09 stuchiu wrote:On November 10 2013 11:07 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 11:06 stuchiu wrote:
Myungsik can't be Phoenix because he's only shown up in one qualifier. And I'm not including upgrades for now. Just buildings and units. Sora? Sora did sick Phoenix play! Some spots I'll leave empty until some Toss really takes a spot. Good so far, now we need a Terran and Zerg pantheon. The terran is a bit obvious tho. Drone: ? Zergling: Life Overlord: ? Roach: Symbol or HyuN Hydra: ? Mutalisk: Jaedong or DRG Baneling: Leenock Infestor: Stephano or someone else Corruptor: Soulkey? Swarm Host: Stephano? Ultralisk: ? Brood Lord: ? Viper: ? So then for Terran... Marine: MKP Marauder: Polt Ghost: Mvp Hellbat: Innovation Hellion: entire Slayers team Widow Mine: Innovation Siege Tank: ? Thor: Thorzain Medivac: MMA Banshee: TheBest Viking: ? Battlecruiser: Mvp Raven: ? Taeja for Ghost over MVP easily
Learn your history my friend, Mvp singlehandedly got the ghost nerfed by annihilating T3 Zerg armies with them in several important matches.
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United States97274 Posts
On November 10 2013 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
Ok so who is the queen for Zerg?
who was known for bringing a lot of queens to transfuse late game first? or making the 6 queen build?
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On November 10 2013 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
Ok so who is the queen for Zerg?
Scarlett? Or she is creep :D.
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On November 10 2013 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
Ok so who is the queen for Zerg?
Losira
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EPT
