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On October 15 2013 11:09 argonautdice wrote: It looks like they're doing Challenger Ro16 right after this? That's kinda interesting... so the 2 losers of the group has to play 2 of the 8 players from Challenger? I hope not, that would be too stressful. >.<
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On October 15 2013 11:08 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 11:06 dafunk wrote:On October 15 2013 11:04 Waise wrote:On October 15 2013 11:01 dafunk wrote: I dont understand how you can be a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER, play this f----- game 12h a day and still float 2k mineral in the mid game, EVERY SINGLE GAME.
RoOOoOoOoOOAAAAAAAAR, I want to break everything at home srsly...
and commentators, as always and like in every single tournament, dont comment on this............................ larva mechanic allows zerg to float money more comfortably if terran isn't in the middle of a death march thats stupid. If he had spend these extra minerals he would've stomped heart 5 mins earlier. Thats not something you plan on doing just for the sake of it. plus he was being pressured like hell i was answering how a professional player can float so much money i'm not saying it's "standard" or good to float all that money, but you have to agree that a zerg floating minerals is different from a terran doing the same. it's impossible to build 40 marines at once but you can easily make 80 zerglings at once at that point in the game
Yes and no, cause you're not going to magically inject 40 larvae out of nowhere. Well, I guess I'm just sad that Sen is never going to be a top tier player :/
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On October 15 2013 11:04 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 11:02 NovemberstOrm wrote:On October 15 2013 11:01 dafunk wrote: I dont understand how you can be a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER, play this f----- game 12h a day and still float 2k mineral in the mid game, EVERY SINGLE GAME.
RoOOoOoOoOOAAAAAAAAR, I want to break everything at home srsly... because he was maxed? sen has been consistently floating money, well before maxing out in every game today. it's been puzzling me, especially since he always seems to have more units than his opponent, even when he is floating. that's true but when I looked he was maxed/within 10 supply of being maxed and @ 2k mins 500~ or so gas
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On October 15 2013 11:09 The_Templar wrote:Sen spawns in the top left. Heart spawns in the bottom right. 2:00 Heart doing a CC first into barracks-->refinery. Sen doing a hatchery first into a spawning pool.
3:00 Sen getting no extractors, just drones and 2 queens. Heart getting marines.
4:00 Heart building a factory. Sen building 2 more queens. Heart getting a second refinery down.
5:00 Heart building a starport. Sen constructing a roach warren.
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On October 15 2013 11:10 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 11:09 argonautdice wrote: It looks like they're doing Challenger Ro16 right after this? That's kinda interesting... so the 2 losers of the group has to play 2 of the 8 players from Challenger? I hope not, that would be too stressful. >.< +1 for me. WCS AM during the weekdays just seem to drag on a lot longer than EU/KR. I think it's long downtimes but I'm already zoning out during this series.
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oops. Heart put a hellion on a creep tumour to splash it, and he one-shot his own hellion.
i think. i thought i saw the debris fly from the corner of the screen.
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On October 15 2013 11:12 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 11:09 The_Templar wrote:Sen spawns in the top left. Heart spawns in the bottom right. 2:00 Heart doing a CC first into barracks-->refinery. Sen doing a hatchery first into a spawning pool. 3:00 Sen getting no extractors, just drones and 2 queens. Heart getting marines. 4:00 Heart building a factory. Sen building 2 more queens. Heart getting a second refinery down. 5:00 Heart building a starport. Sen constructing a roach warren. Sen getting an extractor. 6:00 Heart 47 vs Sen 54 Sen getting overlord speed. Heart building a banshee and 2 hellions. Sen starts zergling speed.
7:00 Heart 64 vs Sen 74 Sen building a third base Heart pushing with hellions and a banshee but Sen is prepared. Heart getting stim. Heart making a third command center.
8:00 Heart 72 vs Sen 81 Heart getting +1/1, Sen getting 1/1 a bit faster. Sen getting a baneling nest and a lair.
9:00 Heart 90 vs Sen 89 Heart getting 2 medivacs at a time. Sen getting 2 more extractors. Heart building 2 more barracks. Sen getting 11 more drones.
10:00 Heart 110 vs Sen 102 Sen making banelings. Heart pushing out with hellion/marine/medivac and a banshee. Sen building a 4th base.
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On October 15 2013 11:11 dafunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 11:08 Waise wrote:On October 15 2013 11:06 dafunk wrote:On October 15 2013 11:04 Waise wrote:On October 15 2013 11:01 dafunk wrote: I dont understand how you can be a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER, play this f----- game 12h a day and still float 2k mineral in the mid game, EVERY SINGLE GAME.
RoOOoOoOoOOAAAAAAAAR, I want to break everything at home srsly...
and commentators, as always and like in every single tournament, dont comment on this............................ larva mechanic allows zerg to float money more comfortably if terran isn't in the middle of a death march thats stupid. If he had spend these extra minerals he would've stomped heart 5 mins earlier. Thats not something you plan on doing just for the sake of it. plus he was being pressured like hell i was answering how a professional player can float so much money i'm not saying it's "standard" or good to float all that money, but you have to agree that a zerg floating minerals is different from a terran doing the same. it's impossible to build 40 marines at once but you can easily make 80 zerglings at once at that point in the game Yes and no, cause you're not going to magically inject 40 larvae out of nowhere. Well, I guess I'm just sad that Sen is never going to be a top tier player :/ no but if you're not macroing perfectly the larvae add up, which is kind of what i was getting at. every second a barracks isn't building is literally almost a waste of its existence, but larvae stick around/stack up a bit and build simultaneously to give you a buffer zone
honestly i would be more worried about sen's army control than his macro after today
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On October 15 2013 11:15 Oboeman wrote: oops. Heart put a hellion on a creep tumour to splash it, and he one-shot his own hellion.
i think. i thought i saw the debris fly from the corner of the screen. Cost efficient creep tumor
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On October 15 2013 11:16 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 11:11 dafunk wrote:On October 15 2013 11:08 Waise wrote:On October 15 2013 11:06 dafunk wrote:On October 15 2013 11:04 Waise wrote:On October 15 2013 11:01 dafunk wrote: I dont understand how you can be a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER, play this f----- game 12h a day and still float 2k mineral in the mid game, EVERY SINGLE GAME.
RoOOoOoOoOOAAAAAAAAR, I want to break everything at home srsly...
and commentators, as always and like in every single tournament, dont comment on this............................ larva mechanic allows zerg to float money more comfortably if terran isn't in the middle of a death march thats stupid. If he had spend these extra minerals he would've stomped heart 5 mins earlier. Thats not something you plan on doing just for the sake of it. plus he was being pressured like hell i was answering how a professional player can float so much money i'm not saying it's "standard" or good to float all that money, but you have to agree that a zerg floating minerals is different from a terran doing the same. it's impossible to build 40 marines at once but you can easily make 80 zerglings at once at that point in the game Yes and no, cause you're not going to magically inject 40 larvae out of nowhere. Well, I guess I'm just sad that Sen is never going to be a top tier player :/ no but if you're not macroing perfectly the larvae add up, which is kind of what i was getting at. every second a barracks isn't building is literally almost a waste of its existence, but larvae stick around/stack up a bit and build simultaneously to give you a buffer zone honestly i would be more worried about sen's army control than his macro after today
Then you arnt looking at whats important.
Hes floating 1k to 1k5 minerals in this game too. Had his fourth canceled three times. He could've shut down everything. Take map control and take a fifth + gaz.
But well..
ps : natural larvae production isnt enough compared to income when you're on 3 or 4 bases. Its very very limited.
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On October 15 2013 11:16 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 11:12 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2013 11:09 The_Templar wrote:Sen spawns in the top left. Heart spawns in the bottom right. 2:00 Heart doing a CC first into barracks-->refinery. Sen doing a hatchery first into a spawning pool. 3:00 Sen getting no extractors, just drones and 2 queens. Heart getting marines. 4:00 Heart building a factory. Sen building 2 more queens. Heart getting a second refinery down. 5:00 Heart building a starport. Sen constructing a roach warren. Sen getting an extractor. 6:00 Heart 47 vs Sen 54 Sen getting overlord speed. Heart building a banshee and 2 hellions. Sen starts zergling speed. 7:00 Heart 64 vs Sen 74 Sen building a third base Heart pushing with hellions and a banshee but Sen is prepared. Heart getting stim. Heart making a third command center. 8:00 Heart 72 vs Sen 81 Heart getting +1/1, Sen getting 1/1 a bit faster. Sen getting a baneling nest and a lair. 9:00 Heart 90 vs Sen 89 Heart getting 2 medivacs at a time. Sen getting 2 more extractors. Heart building 2 more barracks. Sen getting 11 more drones. 10:00 Heart 110 vs Sen 102 Sen making banelings. Heart pushing out with hellion/marine/medivac and a banshee. Sen building a 4th base. 11:00 Heart 120 vs Sen 120 Sen running into Heart's army with banelings off creep and loses more than needed. Heart doing a double drop with medivacs. Sen has mutalisks already but he flies into the main army instead of dealing with the drop.
12:00 Heart 141 vs Sen 124 Heart making a turret in his main base. Sen rebuilding his 4th base which is seen by a banshee, which is killed. Heart moving to kill creep.
13:00 Heart 161 vs Sen 146 Heart building a 4th CC and getting the widow mine upgrade and 2/2. Sen getting +2 ground armor and +1 air weapons. Heart doing an on-creep attack towards the 4th base of Sen and kills lots of banelings in exchange for widow mines. Heart does a drop on the natural which is killed.
14:00 Heart 181 vs Sen 161 Heart has few widow mines. Sen runs banelings into the army of Heart but Heart manages to split well enough.
15:00 Heart 188 vs Sen 146 Sen tries to defend his 4th base. Heart splits marines well against the off-creep banelings.
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On October 15 2013 11:20 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 11:16 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2013 11:12 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2013 11:09 The_Templar wrote:Sen spawns in the top left. Heart spawns in the bottom right. 2:00 Heart doing a CC first into barracks-->refinery. Sen doing a hatchery first into a spawning pool. 3:00 Sen getting no extractors, just drones and 2 queens. Heart getting marines. 4:00 Heart building a factory. Sen building 2 more queens. Heart getting a second refinery down. 5:00 Heart building a starport. Sen constructing a roach warren. Sen getting an extractor. 6:00 Heart 47 vs Sen 54 Sen getting overlord speed. Heart building a banshee and 2 hellions. Sen starts zergling speed. 7:00 Heart 64 vs Sen 74 Sen building a third base Heart pushing with hellions and a banshee but Sen is prepared. Heart getting stim. Heart making a third command center. 8:00 Heart 72 vs Sen 81 Heart getting +1/1, Sen getting 1/1 a bit faster. Sen getting a baneling nest and a lair. 9:00 Heart 90 vs Sen 89 Heart getting 2 medivacs at a time. Sen getting 2 more extractors. Heart building 2 more barracks. Sen getting 11 more drones. 10:00 Heart 110 vs Sen 102 Sen making banelings. Heart pushing out with hellion/marine/medivac and a banshee. Sen building a 4th base. 11:00 Heart 120 vs Sen 120 Sen running into Heart's army with banelings off creep and loses more than needed. Heart doing a double drop with medivacs. Sen has mutalisks already but he flies into the main army instead of dealing with the drop. 12:00 Heart 141 vs Sen 124 Heart making a turret in his main base. Sen rebuilding his 4th base which is seen by a banshee, which is killed. Heart moving to kill creep. 13:00 Heart 161 vs Sen 146 Heart building a 4th CC and getting the widow mine upgrade and 2/2. Sen getting +2 ground armor and +1 air weapons. Heart doing an on-creep attack towards the 4th base of Sen and kills lots of banelings in exchange for widow mines. Heart does a drop on the natural which is killed. 14:00 Heart 181 vs Sen 161 Heart has few widow mines. Sen runs banelings into the army of Heart but Heart manages to split well enough. 15:00 Heart 188 vs Sen 146 Sen tries to defend his 4th base. Heart splits marines well against the off-creep banelings. 16:00 Heart 161 vs Sen 129 Sen loses his 4th base but manages to push Heart's forces back. Heart reinforces with marine/medivac.
17:00 Heart 169 vs Sen 119 Sen has run out of mutalisks. Sen building more mutalisks and zergling but almost no banelings. Both players starting 3/3.
18:00 Heart 172 vs Sen 104 Sen retaking his 4th base. Sen has banelings but they run into widow mines and Heart crushes everything easily. Sen GG's. Heart wins 2-1!
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Poll: Heart vs Sen: Game 3★★★ - Good game (2) 40% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2) 40% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 20% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Heart vs Sen: Game 3 (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
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At this rate GSTL might start just as WCS AM finishes, that would be swell.
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Reminds me of WW1, when cavalry charged into machine gun fire.
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Come on Heart with Innovation, Ryung and MMA to practice with you have a shot of beating Tajea.
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