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On October 15 2013 00:49 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 00:15 SChlafmann wrote:On October 14 2013 23:02 Aunvilgod wrote:On October 14 2013 22:38 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Just curious as I tend to not watch too many Z matches, when did burrow come back into popularity? When Life decided that having mercy with his already overwhelmed opponents was just useless waste of time. When Life realised he wasn't able to win without it. I take it you're an expert in Life's play
probably when he realized that nani was skipping/delaying robo every game?
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It might also have to do with the proposed balance patch for burrow. It's not the first time that a suggestion of a change in balance testing has an effect in the actual game.
Anyway, I watched a good many VODS last night including all of the Nani games from the QF onwards. There was a lot of enjoyable SC2 at IEM NY. And this despite some of the production issues. So, thanks to all involved for a bit of a treat.
Well played to Naniwa for some real good and exciting Protoss play. And congratulations to Life. He was clearly the best player during the tournament, and a deserved winner. It is good to see him back on top.
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On October 14 2013 13:46 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 13:42 ES.Genie wrote:On October 14 2013 12:27 Dodgin wrote:On October 14 2013 12:25 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 14 2013 12:21 Dodgin wrote:
I mean FrostedMiniWheats is right about there being lots of interesting story lines for Korean players, the problem is that unless you've been a hardcore fan who has watched GSL for the past 3 years you won't know or care about them. The foreign organizations either don't know them or don't want to tell them. It's hard to build a fan base as a average(like code s ro32-16 consistently) player because you get to go to 1 or 2 foreign events a year. Most of the people watching the tournament have no idea who this guy is so they don't pay any attention to him. Life became " known " because of his two MLG wins more than his GSL wins for the average fan.
Your best bet is to do something like Stardust and come out of nowhere to win a prestigious event, otherwise even if you finish top 4 like Curious did very few people will remember you for that one performance. I like to think the collection of die hards that watched GSL for years is just as important of a fan base as the mobs that only watch international events. They're definitely important, but how big is that group of people these days? Are those same fans still watching sc2? I know a lot of people who stopped watching GSL after it became WCS and all the popular players left for NA/EU. It's still an important group of people especially since they're more likely to be the passionate fans willing to spend money. That was the main reason why I stopped watching the last bit of Sc2 I still cared about at that time - the GSL. I've followed Sc2 since Feb 2011 and the Korean scene since July/August 2011 and even though the time difference made it incredibly difficult for me to watch the league, I've always tried to watch as much as I could at that time and enjoyed every single moment of it until WCS was announced. This, combined with a general lack of interest in videogames, stopped me from watching almost any Sc2 at all ever since (I've probably watched less than 3h this year). I still check the news, previews and results of big tournaments on TL almost daily. Sometimes I even read LR or other community threads, but this has become really rare because it seems about 90% of all posts are written by whiny 13year olds that simply like to complain for the sake of complaining while they could just fucking watch their supposedly favourite game instead. All you read is "sc2 dead", "koreans boring", "fuck player xy" or balance whine. It's extremely tiring and obnoxious tbh and I'm quite surprised there are still that many people that want to be part of such a bitchy and negative community. Considering this, over 70k viewers is actually quite an impessive feat. I wish more people would realize Sc2 is doing just fine and enjoy the extremely high level of play displayed nowadays. It really isn't that hard. If you haven't seen it yet, you should definitely watch the VODs for the WCS EU S1 finals between Stephano and Mvp. We finally got that dream match up in a bo7 finals and the games were pretty good, except for the last one.
That's actually a very good idea. Thanks for reminding me of those - I almost forgot that final even happened even though Mvp is pretty much the only player I still care about(Bomber too, but to a lesser extend). Who knows...maybe this will revive my passion, even though I can't stand this community anymore.
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Going to say this is probably one of the absolute tournaments I've ever watched, and not just because of Naniwa.
Even with some minor sound issues it was awesome and the players were incredible. Games were awesome and the metagame is awesome right now.
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On October 14 2013 20:00 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 19:57 Fjodorov wrote:
This final was a lot closer than 4 - 2. Remember that game 4 on whirlwind? It could just as well have gone to naniwa and we would have had a 2 - 2 score. My point is that this final was amazing and not only did we get a foreigner vs one of the best koreans but it was not the usual 4 - 0 or 4 - 1 but actualy really close if you look at it closely. Great stuff. Life and Naniwa entertained me more than I could ask for. I feel that is a big misjudgement. It could have been very well 4-0 and we could see Life is way superior. BelShir he toyed around and lost, he could have won easily and on Whirlwind he won but he made it a lot closer with joking around with proxy hatcheries. I feel Life could close it out more easily. But yeah, no bashing here, I am glad for Naniwa that he made it that far to begin with. Also glad for Life that he won his first title in a long time again
But the result in the end wasn't 4:0... And it could have been even closer if it was not for Life's outstanding harrassment in the last game and game 1 where Naniwa should have been able to bring it home imho. Toying around in a final where so much is on the line? I would say it was Life misjudging situations rather than people here, no? I feel you undersell Naniwa's performance quite a bit here. Yes Life surely played better but it's not like Naniwa got lucky or something...
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