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Lephex
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany153 Posts
August 23 2013 13:51 GMT
#1641
mutalisks suck, not fun to watch at all (as a protoss)
There are three types of people in this world: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who wonder what happened.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 23 2013 13:51 GMT
#1642
On August 23 2013 22:50 jakethesnake wrote:
MC is seriously lacking in anti-air..

He is playing protoss, our anti air exists in a binary state. Awesome or none.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 13:51:46
August 23 2013 13:51 GMT
#1643
you just need to build 4 or 3 stargates as a toss and a fleetbeacon even before you see mutas, this is very useful, you just basically can't lose if you do so
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 23 2013 13:51 GMT
#1644
On August 23 2013 22:51 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
why did mutas get super regen doesn't make sense. People just weren't using them right.

Balance whine in LR? That's a big no-no...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 23 2013 13:51 GMT
#1645
On August 23 2013 22:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 22:50 Grettin wrote:
inb4 archon toilet into win.


Shut up this isn't 2012 anymore TT_TT


i don't even know if it works anymore rofl
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 23 2013 13:51 GMT
#1646
Come on JaeDong!
kiss kiss fall in love
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 23 2013 13:51 GMT
#1647
What a sick game. Whirlwind is too awesome
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 23 2013 13:52 GMT
#1648
On August 23 2013 22:51 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 22:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:50 Grettin wrote:
inb4 archon toilet into win.


Shut up this isn't 2012 anymore TT_TT


i don't even know if it works anymore rofl


We can only pray it doesn't...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
August 23 2013 13:52 GMT
#1649
On August 23 2013 22:51 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 22:51 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
why did mutas get super regen doesn't make sense. People just weren't using them right.

Balance whine in LR? That's a big no-no...


A question is balance whine? didn't know I wasn't allowed to ask questions.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
August 23 2013 13:52 GMT
#1650
whirldwind macro games always sick
yo
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 23 2013 13:52 GMT
#1651
On August 23 2013 22:51 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 22:50 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:49 HazMat wrote:
As a Protoss it hurts to watch these mutalisks just win games. At least in Broodwar you could just storm an entire clump T_T

I promise you, clump up in star2 too, and mutas will die. JD is that good.

Storm is a lot different in sc2 mate. Jaedong has already tanked 2 storms and the mutas are still fine. He wouldn't be allowed to make such mistakes in BW.

Of course. I don't really agree on the hp regen buff they got. It is way too good tbh. his splits are fucking insane tho.

Storm is also different, so remember that.
The Bomber boy
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 23 2013 13:52 GMT
#1652
Wait what happened, fuck why did i go get coffee
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
August 23 2013 13:52 GMT
#1653
On August 23 2013 22:51 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
why did mutas get super regen doesn't make sense. People just weren't using them right.


Phenix got buffed, Mines... they'd be completely useless without it. Nobody would ever build Mutalisks if they were the same as in WoL.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 23 2013 13:52 GMT
#1654
On August 23 2013 22:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 22:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
WCS Season 2 Finals Ro16 Group A
kr (Z)Jaedong vs. kr (P)MC
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Whirlwind

0:00
Jaedong spawns in the bottom right
MC spawns in the top left

2:00
pool first for Jaedong
forge first for MC
hatch for Jaedong

3:00
Nexus for MC
cannon for MC
MC has a probe hidden at the potential 3rd of Jaedong
MC distracting with a probe in the natural
3rd base for Jaedong
gateway for MC

4:00
pylon at the 3rd of Jaedong out of vision
double gas for MC
cannons started at the 3rd of Jaedong
overlord barely sees the building cannons of MC

5:00
Jaedong starts at new hatch in the bottom center and cancels his 3rd
MC cancels 1 of the cannons
cybernetics core for MC
zealot for MC
MC scouts the new 3rd of Jaedong
+1 attack for MC
double gas for Jaedong

6:00
stalker for MC
Roach warren for Jaedong
MSC for MC
6 more gates for MC

7:00 62 vs 42
Burrow research started for Jaedong
another gas for Jaedong
ling speed started for Jaedong
MC putting down another forward pylon to the left of Jaedong's 3rd
Roaches started for Jaedong

8:00 81 vs 44
MC beginning his forward warp ins
20 more lings and more roaches on the way for Jaedong
Jaedong waiting at his 3rd to defend
Lair started for Jaedong
ling counter attack from Jaedong
MC doesnt have anything to block his wall
ARTOSIS PYLON IN THE MAIN FOR 6 GATES

9:00 116 vs 72
6 gateways are unpowered
lings force a cancel on the next pylon building
MC only got 1 zealot warped in at home and it's killed
Twilight council for MC
2 more gas for MC
Jaedong burrows his lings in MC's main
MC has to send his units home

10:00 134 vs 78
hydralisk den for jaedong
evo chamber for Jaedong
+1 range attack for Jaedong
Robo for MC
forward pylons of MC are all taken out
macro hatch for Jaedong
hydra range for Jaedong
blink research started for MC

11:00 144 vs 92
overlord speed for Jaedong
hydras for Jaedong
+2 attack for MC
burrowed lings blocking the 3rd of MC
immortal started for MC

12:00 165 vs 99
MC kills the ling and starts his 3rd
Hydra speed for Jaedong
roach speed for Jaedong
infestation pit for Jaedong
4th base for Jaedong
+1 carapace for Jaedong

13:00 162 vs 119
Robo bay for MC
Hive for Jaedong
2nd evo for Jaedong
+2 range attack started for Jaedong

14:00 162 vs 136
Colossus production started for MC
another evo for Jaedong
contaminate on the robo for MC

15:00 200 vs 163
vipers on the way for Jaedong
adrenal glands for Jaedong
+1 melee for Jaedong
ultralisk cavern for Jaedong
Extended thermal lance research started for MC
Jaedong breaking down the rocks to MC's 3rd
MC adding more cannons at his 3rd

16:00 195 vs 170
+3 attack started for MC
ling runby into the main and natural of MC
+2 carapace for Jaedong
engagement in the middle of the map
abduct on the immortals and the colossus killing them all

17:00 200 vs 161
MC retreats into his 3rd
+3 range attack for Jaedong
chitinous plating for Jaedong
armies trade outside Mc's 3rd
blinding cloud on the army of MC
abduct on the new colossus that spawns and kills it
Jaedong rebuilding a ton of lings
5th base for Jaedong
5 ultras started for Jaedong

18:00 177 vs 111
MC gets his army surrounded by the lings and has to recall
+2 melee started for Jaedong
Templar archives for MC
Jaedong going up to 8 ultras
lings in the main of MC harassing
Spire for Jaedong

19:00 191 vs 143
Jaedong does some cute ling micro in the main of MC to kill the robo bay while avoiding zealots
Storm research started for MC
4 more gates for MC
2 more hatches for Jaedong
2nd spire for Jaedong
Jaedong attacks into the 3rd of MC
blinding cloud on the army of MC
MC takes a good position behind his buildings
Jaedong's army is forced back

20:00 178 vs 142
MC building immortals
+1 flier attack for Jaedong
4 more ultras for Jaedong
+1 air carapace for Jaedong
archons and immortals for MC

21:00 198 vs 184
MC moving towards on of the outlying expansions of Jaedong in the bottom left and kills it
+3 carapace on the way for Jaedong

22:00 190 vs 199
engagement on the ramp in the bottom left
Jaedong backs off after losing a few ultras
MC recalls his army to his 3rd
Dark shrine for MC
+1 armor for MC
+3 melee for Jaedong
more vipers for Jaedong

23:00 194 vs 199
+2 flier attack for Jaedong
ling blocking the 4th of MC
+2 air carapace for Jaedong

24:00 194 vs 199
Charge research started for MC
Jaedong scouts the dark shrine and starts spores and spines at his expansions
MC sending zealots out on the map looking for bases
Jaedong attacks into the 3rd of MC
feedback on the vipers

25:00 123 vs 168
zealot DT attack at the 4th of Jaedong
35+ muta switch from Jaedong
MC attacking across the map
MC adding more archons into his army from his DTs
MC attacking the 3rd of Jaedong
mutas magic boxing MC's army

26:00 133 vs 107
3rd of Jaedong is killed off
zealots of MC are being cleaned up
MC has lost his whole army
4th of Jaedong is killed
MC has a bunch of cannons up at his 4th
Jaedong still has a mining base in the bottom left

27:00 131 vs 89
MC trying to rebuild an army
MSC for MC
Jaedong attacking at the 3rd of MC
storm all over the mutas
Jaedong has to back off with all his orange mutas

28:00 126 vs 93
DT scouts the bottom left base of MC
storm hits all the mutas again putting them back in the orange
MC adding more cannons
mutas harassing the 4th of MC
DT cleans up the hidden base of Jaedong
Jaedong rebuilding his 4th

29:00 126 vs 94
mutas looking for an avenue of harass
Jaedong distance mining with most of his drones

30:00 131 v 108
Jaedong saves the bottom left base with his lings
2 more hatches building for Jaedong
vipers for Jaedong
MC scouts Jaedong rebuilding bases
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 23 2013 13:53 GMT
#1655
The Bo3 is the game of throws
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 23 2013 13:53 GMT
#1656
he should try to flank with vipers and pull templars away from the battle to prevent storms. That would be cool :D
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
August 23 2013 13:53 GMT
#1657
Why would you ever go for ultras in zvp?
If jaedong just stayed on ling/roach/hydra + viper, he would have been in a much better position
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
August 23 2013 13:54 GMT
#1658
JD is really committing to only make mutas lol.
The curse is real
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 23 2013 13:54 GMT
#1659
On August 23 2013 22:52 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 22:51 HazMat wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:50 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:49 HazMat wrote:
As a Protoss it hurts to watch these mutalisks just win games. At least in Broodwar you could just storm an entire clump T_T

I promise you, clump up in star2 too, and mutas will die. JD is that good.

Storm is a lot different in sc2 mate. Jaedong has already tanked 2 storms and the mutas are still fine. He wouldn't be allowed to make such mistakes in BW.

Of course. I don't really agree on the hp regen buff they got. It is way too good tbh. his splits are fucking insane tho.

Storm is also different, so remember that.

Storms are terrible against mutas unless they fly into them. Even the, the mutas are so fast they take minimal damage from the storm.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
August 23 2013 13:54 GMT
#1660
Insane micro from JD, right ? xdd
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