Squirtle vs DongRaeGu YugiOh vs Trap Squirtle vs FanTaSy Trap vs DongRaeGu YugiOh vs FanTaSy Trap vs Squirtle DongRaeGu vs FanTaSy YugiOh vs Squirtle Trap vs FanTaSy YugiOh vs DongRaeGu
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
35%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (1)
5%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
5%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Squirtle vs DRG?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
60%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (1)
10%
★★★ - Good game (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Yugioh vs Trap?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
38%
★★★ - Good game (8)
33%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
13%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (2)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
8%
24 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Squirtle vs Fantasy?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend DRG vs Trap?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
37%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (5)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (5)
17%
★★★ - Good game (4)
13%
30 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Yugioh vs Fantasy?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Squirtle vs Trap?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
11%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
11%
★★★ - Good game (3)
8%
37 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Fantasy vs DRG?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
50%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (6)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Yugioh vs Squirtle?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
54%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (5)
38%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Trap vs Fantasy?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Trap is PvZ 2base savant, but sucks vT and only ok vP Fantasy is great in TvZ but horrible in vT and vP YugiOh is pretty good at all matchups DRG has weeaaaaak vZ, middling vT and solid vP Squirtle has great vP and is pretty good at the other matchups
On August 13 2013 17:53 DarkLordOlli wrote: I think this is the right place to mention that I <3 Pandemona because Chelsea
Awww xD That blue love so strong <3 DarkLordOlli fighting!!!
Bye bye David Luiz?
that international champions cup final was a pretty good game
Defo! Was awesome, apart from the fact Chelsea got Ronaldo'd haha, damn the sexy piece of football demi god just went ham on everything Chelsea XD His freekick.......just stupid good
I voted no half because I don't think he'll make it in and half because I'm pretty sure gomtv is going to pretend they never existed even if he gets it
Am I wrong or the rock arc in the center of Anaconda can be destroyed to make the arc fall and create a rock block ? Interesting stuff , something like rock towers but reversed.
On August 13 2013 18:06 IeZaeL wrote: Am I wrong or the rock arc in the center of Anaconda can be destroyed to make the arc fall and create a rock block ? Interesting stuff , something like rock towers but reversed.
For some reason I can't remember the last time Squirtle looked good in a game. I feel like he's been floundering a lot recently but I could be mistaken
On August 13 2013 18:21 Shellshock1122 wrote: For some reason I can't remember the last time Squirtle looked good in a game. I feel like he's been floundering a lot recently but I could be mistaken
why exactly didn´t he kill that spire when he killed the base next to it? why exactly would you run around on the map against zerg without having a recall ?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
35%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (1)
5%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
5%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Squirtle vs DRG?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On August 13 2013 18:21 Shellshock1122 wrote: For some reason I can't remember the last time Squirtle looked good in a game. I feel like he's been floundering a lot recently but I could be mistaken
It's just what happens when you refuse to evolve.
But Squirtle was so good in most of the pokemon series He randomly comes back to enter pokemon championships and does well. SQUIRTLE SQUAD HWAITING!!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
60%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (1)
10%
★★★ - Good game (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Yugioh vs Trap?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
I really don't like Protoss being able to constantly scout the entire map for mere energy. Why did Protoss barely ever get the hallucination upgrade in the past when we now see it in nearly every game?
On August 13 2013 18:38 Raambo11 wrote: If Fantasy can get his macro together and stop those long stretches where he doesn't make units he can advance easy
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
Shellshock hires Chinese wow farmers to farm him posts on TL.
On August 13 2013 18:39 Megiddosc wrote: I really don't like Protoss being able to constantly scout the entire map for mere energy. Why did Protoss barely ever get the hallucination upgrade in the past when we now see it in nearly every game?
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
Ooohhh yeah, I vaguely recall the signature as well. Bleh. Stupid night shift making me miss Shellbot milestones. TT
On August 13 2013 18:39 Megiddosc wrote: I really don't like Protoss being able to constantly scout the entire map for mere energy. Why did Protoss barely ever get the hallucination upgrade in the past when we now see it in nearly every game?
Because no one liked getting an upgrade from a Cybernetics Core other than Warp Gate for 100 gas in WoL.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
i think it was 29k lol
Maybe I was confusing his post count with yours. All you star-guys look the same to me.
On August 13 2013 18:39 Megiddosc wrote: I really don't like Protoss being able to constantly scout the entire map for mere energy. Why did Protoss barely ever get the hallucination upgrade in the past when we now see it in nearly every game?
Because no one liked getting an upgrade from a Cybernetics Core other than Warp Gate for 100 gas in WoL.
Hallucinate used to be 50/50, there was also a lot more pressure early game that's been nullified by nexus cannon so you can now afford to spend sentry energy on hallucinations.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
On August 13 2013 18:39 Megiddosc wrote: I really don't like Protoss being able to constantly scout the entire map for mere energy. Why did Protoss barely ever get the hallucination upgrade in the past when we now see it in nearly every game?
Because no one liked getting an upgrade from a Cybernetics Core other than Warp Gate for 100 gas in WoL.
It was 50/50, there was also a lot more pressure early game that's been nullified by nexus cannon so you can afford to spend sentry energy on hallucinations.
Really? I thought only Warp Gate was 50/50 and Hallucination was 50/100... Then again I didn't play very much Protoss in WoL.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
On August 13 2013 18:39 Megiddosc wrote: I really don't like Protoss being able to constantly scout the entire map for mere energy. Why did Protoss barely ever get the hallucination upgrade in the past when we now see it in nearly every game?
Because no one liked getting an upgrade from a Cybernetics Core other than Warp Gate for 100 gas in WoL.
Hallucinate used to be 50/50, there was also a lot more pressure early game that's been nullified by nexus cannon so you can now afford to spend sentry energy on hallucinations.
Exactly, there's no reason to not put the hallucination upgrade back in place. Ya have photon overcharge now to dispel pretty much any early aggression.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
On August 13 2013 18:39 Megiddosc wrote: I really don't like Protoss being able to constantly scout the entire map for mere energy. Why did Protoss barely ever get the hallucination upgrade in the past when we now see it in nearly every game?
Because no one liked getting an upgrade from a Cybernetics Core other than Warp Gate for 100 gas in WoL.
You knew what terran was doing, you couldn't really afford it in pvp, it was mainly used in pvz to scout for spire timings.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
i think it was 29k lol
I think youre right actually.
LR posting = post count generator.
Beats "^This" and "+1" thats for damn sure :D
TI3 helped me break my old posts in a week record.
And now I ahve to decide between Bogus or Fanta, WCG or WCS.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
i think it was 29k lol
I think youre right actually.
LR posting = post count generator.
Beats "^This" and "+1" thats for damn sure :D
TI3 helped me break my old posts in a week record.
And now I ahve to decide between Bogus or Fanta, WCG or WCS.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
i think it was 29k lol
I think youre right actually.
LR posting = post count generator.
Beats "^This" and "+1" thats for damn sure :D
TI3 helped me break my old posts in a week record.
And now I ahve to decide between Bogus or Fanta, WCG or WCS.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
i think it was 29k lol
I think youre right actually.
LR posting = post count generator.
Beats "^This" and "+1" thats for damn sure :D
TI3 helped me break my old posts in a week record.
And now I ahve to decide between Bogus or Fanta, WCG or WCS.
On August 13 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: I cant remember the last time I saw a baneling bust work in ZvP
Jesus you're almost at 50k posts. Last time I looked you were nearing 30k. What on earth.
When I congratulated him for 40k only seemed like 2 weeks ago lol :S
But I remember Shellshock's old signature had mention of him being on 36k posts or something, and that only felt like a couple of months ago as well hahah
i think it was 29k lol
I think youre right actually.
LR posting = post count generator.
Beats "^This" and "+1" thats for damn sure :D
TI3 helped me break my old posts in a week record.
And now I ahve to decide between Bogus or Fanta, WCG or WCS.
Ack.
wow wtf 1215
Topped out at 1350
739 was over 1300 too before he got banned
I was wondering why he suddenly stopped posting. Still nowhere close to Drazerk's record.
squirtle won the GSTL for IM, he's not doing that bad, definitely not worse than ST where the only thing he achieved after losing to Mvp was throwing a winners bracket advantage to creator in wcs kr.
wow... weird. Squirtle playing so weird. Letting Terran build up bases without challenge, throwing away zealots. don't most Ps pressure when they send zealot runbys? Squirtle just sends them in while leaving his army at home, which just throws away 700/800 minerals for nothing.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
38%
★★★ - Good game (8)
33%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
13%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (2)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
8%
24 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Squirtle vs Fantasy?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On August 13 2013 19:13 raga4ka wrote: Fantasy failing at that late game . Could have made something happen .
i dont know what a terran is supposed to do against such a sick composition by the toss and i play toss mb someone can tell me. cause in the very very lategame i dont see terran winning, mb only when the toss losses all his observers, otherwise i have no clue
On August 13 2013 19:13 raga4ka wrote: Fantasy failing at that late game . Could have made something happen .
i dont know what a terran is supposed to do against such a sick composition by the toss and i play toss mb someone can tell me. cause in the very very lategame i dont see terran winning, mb only when the toss losses all his observers, otherwise i have no clue
It looked weird but I think fantasy knew he probably couldn't engage that army so he just kept avoiding it. Squirtle wasnt even really mining for a long period of time, but I think fantasy should have tried to engage at the end instead of splitting all those ghosts off and attacking with them. That was weird he already did all the damage he could have, he even killed all those stargates.
On August 13 2013 19:13 raga4ka wrote: Fantasy failing at that late game . Could have made something happen .
i dont know what a terran is supposed to do against such a sick composition by the toss and i play toss mb someone can tell me. cause in the very very lategame i dont see terran winning, mb only when the toss losses all his observers, otherwise i have no clue
imo you can't. You have to go for mass ghosts and cross your fingers that you can close out before tempests hit the field. against 7-9 tempest with those colossus numbers, you can pack your bag and leave.
On August 13 2013 19:13 raga4ka wrote: Fantasy failing at that late game . Could have made something happen .
i dont know what a terran is supposed to do against such a sick composition by the toss and i play toss mb someone can tell me. cause in the very very lategame i dont see terran winning, mb only when the toss losses all his observers, otherwise i have no clue
It looked weird but I think fantasy knew he probably couldn't engage that army so he just kept avoiding it. Squirtle wasnt even really mining for a long period of time, but I think fantasy should have tried to engage at the end instead of splitting all those ghosts off and attacking with them. That was weird he already did all the damage he could have, he even killed all those stargates.
squirtle played that out horribly. he had no defence at his expansions. if there are 5-6 cannons and one HT, you have a lot of trouble killing them off with small forces. and if you commit a huge army, then the huge protoss army can come too.
On August 13 2013 19:15 Teoita wrote: That was quite a long death animations after squirtle's bo win lol
edit: @poster above me: that game is not an indication of balance, fantasy was dead forever.
never wanted to make it an indication of balance lol i am just curious
Well in an ideal world the terran would have way more resources, so more freedom to make oc's/sac scv's/switch his bio into more ghosts/vikings/maybe ravens. While it was a very different situation, when sos went tempest vs innovation at wcs finals innovation was just able to outmaneouver him and hit all over the map. I don't know how reliable that would be a real lategame situation though.
That said, going tempest is still very uncommon so none knows for sure quite yet.
On August 13 2013 19:15 Teoita wrote: That was quite a long death animations after squirtle's bo win lol
edit: @poster above me: that game is not an indication of balance, fantasy was dead forever.
never wanted to make it an indication of balance lol i am just curious
Well in an ideal world the terran would have way more resources, so more freedom to make oc's/sac scv's/switch his bio into more ghosts/vikings/maybe ravens. While it was a very different situation, when sos went tempest vs innovation at wcs finals innovation was just able to outmaneouver him and hit all over the map. I don't know how reliable that would be a real lategame situation though.
That said, going tempest is still very uncommon so none knows for sure quite yet.
thanks for the answers, guys. but now that i remember this game, i also remember that tempest are very slow, mb on another map a terran would have a much better chance to multitask the toss to death
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend DRG vs Trap?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On August 13 2013 19:32 IcemanAsi wrote: Holy hell, Are we seeing a new ZvP meta here? Cause I'm loving it.
I think i have seen it. Except earlier i have seen roach ling into muta ling. This time it is hydra ling with handful of corruptors, should there be a collosi timing into muta ling.
On August 13 2013 19:32 IcemanAsi wrote: Holy hell, Are we seeing a new ZvP meta here? Cause I'm loving it.
It's not that new... Go some form of defensive roach/hydra play, then switch into melee ups and mutas when he goes Colossus. But it's not that good if Protoss just takes a third or goes stargateheavy.
The corruptors were a nice touch. Usually the Z only uses hydra/ling to pressure with that build; i think DRG thought he woudln't do damage with a faster timing because of the map/spawning positions so decided to add corruptors (which have the additional bonus of tricking the protoss into thinking mutas aren't coming). Trap moving out at a dumb timing helped ofc, but that looks scary anyway :O
On August 13 2013 19:32 IcemanAsi wrote: Holy hell, Are we seeing a new ZvP meta here? Cause I'm loving it.
I think i have seen it. Except earlier i have seen roach ling into muta ling. This time it is hydra ling with handful of corruptors, should there be a collosi timing into muta ling.
Seems like a lot of corruptors and baiting the collossi timing by making it look like a muta bank. Then crush the push then go muta. Gets so much more mileage out of your ground forces than if you just go straight mutas.
I think walling so fast is bad because you way oversupply yourself, better get the bunker near the ramp and faster 3th imo. And then slowely rewall 1 depot at a time.
On August 13 2013 19:32 IcemanAsi wrote: Holy hell, Are we seeing a new ZvP meta here? Cause I'm loving it.
I think i have seen it. Except earlier i have seen roach ling into muta ling. This time it is hydra ling with handful of corruptors, should there be a collosi timing into muta ling.
Seems like a lot of corruptors and baiting the collossi timing by making it look like a muta bank. Then crush the push then go muta. Gets so much more mileage out of your ground forces than if you just go straight mutas.
If the viper buff goes through ( vipers spawn with full energy ) there could even be a ling/hydra/viper variation. This style makes we want to play again after a long time.
This group of death producing such low level games, makes me a sad panda for actually watching and not being able to watch MKP as i been told his group is 13:00KST Guess i'll do some work at work xD
On August 13 2013 19:49 Caihead wrote: Well I mean. Fantasy's Macro was fine this game, that's good. He's just not splitting, everything else is standard or good.
He's barely been supply blocked that I've noticed.
Poor Fanta this could be the end of him? I mean he isn't getting better, he isn't getting out of Code A, he isn't getting younger? Surely he will start to fall out of love with the game not being at the top of the tree?
Someone tell Catz to call in a "PLACE YOUR OVERLORDS PROPERLY" note for Yugioh. Yugioh should have easily seen every single drop on the South side without issue.
On August 13 2013 19:51 Taf the Ghost wrote: Someone tell Catz to call in a "PLACE YOUR OVERLORDS PROPERLY" note for Yugioh. Yugioh should have easily seen every single drop on the South side without issue.
Yeah he definitely should've placed some Overlords in tthe bottom of the map. No excuse for that.
On August 13 2013 19:52 Elite_ wrote: Wolf is learning a lot of new things today... "I didn't know that worked on Tempests!" "I didn't know that worked on Planetaries!"
Fantasy's games are so much fun to watch, partially because he's by no means perfect and always looks so fragile which makes it so much more fun when he wins.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
37%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (5)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (5)
17%
★★★ - Good game (4)
13%
30 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Yugioh vs Fantasy?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
This game makes me appreciate how good Polt is. Those baneling attacks would be almost useless with Polt's constant splits while macroing superbly. Fantasy floated 2k min/ 1.5k gas. Game should of been over by T long ago.
On August 13 2013 19:55 Taf the Ghost wrote: Well, Fantasy decided that you should always attack at 160 supply, as Terran. By never building depots after 160, haha.
By the way, I'd suggest to change the "One of the best games of the year" option to "One of the best games of the season". A season is a more useful unit in term of spectator memory and metagame.
On August 13 2013 19:56 WigglingSquid wrote: By the way, I'd suggest to change the "One of the best games of the year" option to "One of the best games of the season". A season is a more useful unit in term of spectator memory and metagame.
Game of the year for 5 star encourages people to vote for 4 star more.
On August 13 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote: why doesn't broodlord infestor work anymore
he hit perfect fungals, nothing makes sense
This isn't WoL
tell me something i dont know
The 2nd president of the United States and 3rd president of the United States both died within just a few hours apart of each other on the same exact day of July 4th 1826.
On August 13 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote: why doesn't broodlord infestor work anymore
he hit perfect fungals, nothing makes sense
This isn't WoL
tell me something i dont know
The earliest recorded female physician was Merit Ptah
Well, that is right and they say you don't learn anything from video games.
Learn about Chinese history playing dynasty warriors. Learn about cold war politics playing Red Alert series. Learn about medieval history playing Age of Empires. Learn about Dark ages Europe playing paradox games. Learn about Koreans being the master race playing SC2.
On August 13 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote: why doesn't broodlord infestor work anymore
he hit perfect fungals, nothing makes sense
Slower fungals --> harder to chain fungals. IT has no upgrade --> crap. In WoL 10 infestors spamming fungals and IT can fucking kill a medium size terran army.
On August 13 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote: why doesn't broodlord infestor work anymore
he hit perfect fungals, nothing makes sense
This isn't WoL
tell me something i dont know
The earliest recorded female physician was Merit Ptah
Well, that is right and they say you don't learn anything from video games.
Learn about Chinese history playing dynasty warriors. Learn about cold war politics playing Red Alert series. Learn about medieval history playing Age of Empires. Learn about Dark ages Europe playing paradox games. Learn about Koreans being the master race playing SC2.
On August 13 2013 19:56 BakedButters wrote: This game makes me appreciate how good Polt is. Those baneling attacks would be almost useless with Polt's constant splits while macroing superbly. Fantasy floated 2k min/ 1.5k gas. Game should of been over by T long ago.
You know Polt floats A LOT of minerals right due to his speed- he's a very slow player. He doesn't win because he has great macro or multitasking. He wins through good micro and great decision making.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Squirtle vs Trap?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On August 13 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote: why doesn't broodlord infestor work anymore
he hit perfect fungals, nothing makes sense
This isn't WoL
tell me something i dont know
The earliest recorded female physician was Merit Ptah
Well, that is right and they say you don't learn anything from video games.
Learn about Chinese history playing dynasty warriors. Sengoku Rance ! Learn about cold war politics playing Red Alert series. Learn about medieval history playing Age of Empires. Learn about Dark ages Europe playing paradox games. Learn about Koreans being the master race playing SC2.
When Squirtle first forcefield the ramp he could of isolated the higher ground immortal. As well use timewarp on immortals so Trap can't micro them. That's what Jim did in his PvPs
On August 13 2013 20:12 BakedButters wrote: When Squirtle first forcefield the ramp he could of isolated the higher ground immortal. As well use timewarp on immortals so Trap can't micro them. That's what Jim did in his PvPs
On August 13 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote: why doesn't broodlord infestor work anymore
he hit perfect fungals, nothing makes sense
This isn't WoL
tell me something i dont know
The earliest recorded female physician was Merit Ptah
Well, that is right and they say you don't learn anything from video games.
Learn about Chinese history playing dynasty warriors. Learn about cold war politics playing Red Alert series. Learn about medieval history playing Age of Empires. Learn about Dark ages Europe playing paradox games. Learn about Koreans being the master race playing SC2.
Hey I learnt so much about Greek, Egyptian and viking mythology from age of mythology.
On August 13 2013 20:13 Pandemona wrote: DRG vs Fanta Fanta with his amazing TvZ LOL and DRG with his equally amazing ZvT
This has the makings to be....bad :D
Well according to Khaldor, in HoTS ZvT DRG only has a 17% win rate vs korean Terrans, as much as I hate to say it, his ZvT is now a shadow of its former self...
On August 13 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote: why doesn't broodlord infestor work anymore
he hit perfect fungals, nothing makes sense
This isn't WoL
tell me something i dont know
The earliest recorded female physician was Merit Ptah
Well, that is right and they say you don't learn anything from video games.
Learn about Chinese history playing dynasty warriors. Learn about cold war politics playing Red Alert series. Learn about medieval history playing Age of Empires. Learn about Dark ages Europe playing paradox games. Learn about Koreans being the master race playing SC2.
Sad bit is that learning from those games might be more useful than most history classes you'll sit through. At least you *know* a lot of it intended fantasy.
On August 13 2013 20:13 Pandemona wrote: DRG vs Fanta Fanta with his amazing TvZ LOL and DRG with his equally amazing ZvT
This has the makings to be....bad :D
Well according to Khaldor, in HoTS ZvT DRG only has a 17% win rate vs korean Terrans, as much as I hate to say it, his ZvT is now a shadow of its former self...
Yeah was being Sarcastic in the DRG and Fanta hype there. Reason i put makings of bad game xD
On August 13 2013 20:13 Pandemona wrote: DRG vs Fanta Fanta with his amazing TvZ LOL and DRG with his equally amazing ZvT
This has the makings to be....bad :D
Well according to Khaldor, in HoTS ZvT DRG only has a 17% win rate vs korean Terrans, as much as I hate to say it, his ZvT is now a shadow of its former self...
DRG in general is a shadow of his former self sadly
On August 13 2013 20:19 monkybone wrote: wow, worst worker micro EVER
agreed. I thought about some games back when I was playing in bronze league... but even there was better worker micro, in fact no micro at all would have made this better
11 Muta Oh god we are going to see the same game as we did Fanta vs YuGi when Fanta won when should of lost. Now Fanta going lose when should of won xD
On August 13 2013 20:24 jimothyjim wrote: It's a shitty day to be a worker.
Not so bad if your an SCV. Fanta has hardly made any workers You'll be sat chilling all day at home, with your family of SCVs, watching this on GOMTV thinking "glad i didn't get called into work today"
On August 13 2013 20:24 Destructicon wrote: The lack of marines is actually going to hurt Fantasy now. And damn, Fantasy is banking 1k minerals, that is really bad.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
11%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
11%
★★★ - Good game (3)
8%
37 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Fantasy vs DRG?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On August 13 2013 20:32 Lunareste wrote: I thought DRG fell out of Premiere League for several months? Guess not
Technically he dropped out when it was the OSL's turn. Personally I think it's bullshit that DRG get's it and Leenock doesn't.
If they already didn't give it to Leenock, then doesn't it stand to reason DRG might not? Unless Mr. Chae specifically told Khaldor and Wolf that they would
On August 13 2013 20:32 Lunareste wrote: I thought DRG fell out of Premiere League for several months? Guess not
Technically he dropped out when it was the OSL's turn. Personally I think it's bullshit that DRG get's it and Leenock doesn't.
If they already didn't give it to Leenock, then doesn't it stand to reason DRG might not? Unless Mr. Chae specifically told Khaldor and Wolf that they would
On August 13 2013 20:32 Lunareste wrote: I thought DRG fell out of Premiere League for several months? Guess not
Technically he dropped out when it was the OSL's turn. Personally I think it's bullshit that DRG get's it and Leenock doesn't.
If they already didn't give it to Leenock, then doesn't it stand to reason DRG might not? Unless Mr. Chae specifically told Khaldor and Wolf that they would
The Nestea award is for GSL not OSL.
As if Leenock could control it being OSL.
"Oh you qualified for GSL in GSL rules and our system. It's a shame we changed it to OSL and there is nothing you can do about it lolol"
Same as
"Oh you qualified for DreamHack in a DreamHack qualifier? Shame we changed it to Kenya's superlan and there is nothing you can do about it lolol"
On August 13 2013 20:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: What is this Nestea trophy all about??
10 Code S placements in a row. OSL for obvious reasons did not count for it, and since Leenock did not make it into Code S this season, he was denied it, though he did play in OSL. While DRG was not in OSL, but got his 10th Code S in a row and got Nestea award this way. So far people who have gotten Nestea award dropped into Code B that very season afaik though, so i am worried for DRG
On August 13 2013 20:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: What is this Nestea trophy all about??
10 Code S placements in a row. OSL for obvious reasons did not count for it, and since Leenock did not make it into Code S this season, he was denied it, though he did play in OSL. While DRG was not in OSL, but got his 10th Code S in a row and got Nestea award this way. So far people who have gotten Nestea award dropped into Code B that very season afaik though, so i am worried for DRG
On August 13 2013 20:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: What is this Nestea trophy all about??
10 Code S placements in a row. OSL for obvious reasons did not count for it, and since Leenock did not make it into Code S this season, he was denied it, though he did play in OSL. While DRG was not in OSL, but got his 10th Code S in a row and got Nestea award this way. So far people who have gotten Nestea award dropped into Code B that very season afaik though, so i am worried for DRG
OSL & GSL is like 2 different company?
Both come up with their own achievement....
yes exactly. MVP didn't get a golden mouse for his 4 GSL wins either.
On August 13 2013 20:32 Lunareste wrote: I thought DRG fell out of Premiere League for several months? Guess not
Technically he dropped out when it was the OSL's turn. Personally I think it's bullshit that DRG get's it and Leenock doesn't.
If they already didn't give it to Leenock, then doesn't it stand to reason DRG might not? Unless Mr. Chae specifically told Khaldor and Wolf that they would
The Nestea award is for GSL not OSL.
As if Leenock could control it being OSL.
"Oh you qualified for GSL in GSL rules and our system. It's a shame we changed it to OSL and there is nothing you can do about it lolol"
Same as
"Oh you qualified for DreamHack in a DreamHack qualifier? Shame we changed it to Kenya's superlan and there is nothing you can do about it lolol"
Still, OSL is´nt GSL. OSL gave Maru a royal road as well, although he played GSL since 2010.
On August 13 2013 20:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: What is this Nestea trophy all about??
10 Code S placements in a row. OSL for obvious reasons did not count for it, and since Leenock did not make it into Code S this season, he was denied it, though he did play in OSL. While DRG was not in OSL, but got his 10th Code S in a row and got Nestea award this way. So far people who have gotten Nestea award dropped into Code B that very season afaik though, so i am worried for DRG
OSL & GSL is like 2 different company?
Both come up with their own achievement....
It would have been different if it was a separate qualifier for OSL yes. But in the end Leenock got fucked by higher powers since he did qualify for 10 seasons in a row with GOM's rules. And then got fucked because Blizzard made WCS and he just happened to qualify for OSL.
If Blizzard never made WCS he would have gotten the award. How can anyone argue he didn't get fucked by higher powers?
On August 13 2013 20:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: What is this Nestea trophy all about??
10 Code S placements in a row. OSL for obvious reasons did not count for it, and since Leenock did not make it into Code S this season, he was denied it, though he did play in OSL. While DRG was not in OSL, but got his 10th Code S in a row and got Nestea award this way. So far people who have gotten Nestea award dropped into Code B that very season afaik though, so i am worried for DRG
OSL & GSL is like 2 different company?
Both come up with their own achievement....
yes exactly. MVP didn't get a golden mouse for his 4 GSL wins either.
point is, the current format demands WCS awards, not GSL/OSL rewards. it's simply pointless to keep the same reward systems
this is IMO yet another manifestation of the power struggle between gom and ogn/kespa
I think keeping the Korean ones the same is fine (10 GSL season's is probably to much now). It would be cool if NA / EU came up with something cool in the future.
This unit comp for P is what they should all aim for imo. But obvious depending what stage of the game sub the immortals for colli. This just counters everything. Archon/templar >Muta/Ling - Stalkers > roach - Immortal > Ultra/Roach - Templar > Everything xD
Just never see it much especially at 3-3 starting 3-3-1/2/3
On August 13 2013 20:49 Pandemona wrote: This unit comp for P is what they should all aim for imo. But obvious depending what stage of the game sub the immortals for colli. This just counters everything. Archon/templar >Muta/Ling - Stalkers > roach - Immortal > Ultra/Roach - Templar > Everything xD
Just never see it much especially at 3-3 starting 3-3-1/2/3
StarDust likes to go such compositions. It only gets screwed up by swarm hosts (or even brood lords with cover).
On August 13 2013 20:47 KristofferAG wrote: Yugi's gonna get fucked by the beach chairs.
And so he was. The guy who made the map must make those chairs floating in air, or something.
I actually think massive units should crush trough those, I mean, it doesn't make sense that a big ass Ultralisk can't get past those tiny little pieces of plastic/wood...
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
50%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (6)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Yugioh vs Squirtle?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On August 13 2013 20:47 KristofferAG wrote: Yugi's gonna get fucked by the beach chairs.
And so he was. The guy who made the map must make those chairs floating in air, or something.
I actually think massive units should crush trough those, I mean, it doesn't make sense that a big ass Ultralisk can't get past those tiny little pieces of plastic/wood...
adds to the hilarity of the map, with the movie screen of a sc2 match. And even a Marine should not be hindered by the chairs
On August 13 2013 20:49 Pandemona wrote: This unit comp for P is what they should all aim for imo. But obvious depending what stage of the game sub the immortals for colli. This just counters everything. Archon/templar >Muta/Ling - Stalkers > roach - Immortal > Ultra/Roach - Templar > Everything xD
Just never see it much especially at 3-3 starting 3-3-1/2/3
StarDust likes to go such compositions. It only gets screwed up by swarm hosts (or even brood lords with cover).
Very true Blords might be difficult, but with the ability of that comp being all warpgate tech you can find timings pre Blords, but even if not you should have nice map control with that army so the ability to throw down the stargates should be easier than harder.
On August 13 2013 20:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: What is this Nestea trophy all about??
In Code S for 10 straight season.
Nestea, MVP and now DRG has it, SuNo and Leenock lost it on the 10th season, MKP will try get his tomorrow.
It'd be MKP vs his rivals in that group hahaha
Thats what I wanted to know, man I so hope MKP can pull trough, it would at least be a nice moral boost for him to get the NesTea award, maybe he can pull himself together and start performing well afterwards.
On August 13 2013 20:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote: What is this Nestea trophy all about??
In Code S for 10 straight season.
Nestea, MVP and now DRG has it, SuNo and Leenock lost it on the 10th season, MKP will try get his tomorrow.
It'd be MKP vs his rivals in that group hahaha
Thats what I wanted to know, man I so hope MKP can pull trough, it would at least be a nice moral boost for him to get the NesTea award, maybe he can pull himself together and start performing well afterwards.
One map before code S, only swagger stands in his way it should be an easy advance. Then suddenly he looks to the other booth and sees not swagger, but MVP.
MKP proceeds to get bopped by a marine poke from MVP and breaks down into tears again.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
54%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (5)
38%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Trap vs Fantasy?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
That was just silly. Oh well another SC2 day in Korea is over, it's time to work for the last 3hours at work. GGs (well they weren't but lets be manner bears <3)
However, I have to say it, Khaldor is a terrible caster tonight. What he says is often very very wrong. Oh, you have never seen muta roach? It's actually a fucking decent combination, especially when the opponent uses his factory a lot (for hellbats and/or mines)
"I prefer XXX position" when XXX has done some minimal damage in the early game, but is now severely on the backfoot.
That's a shame because he is normally so much better than that.
how does DRG doing this? looking mediocre in some tournaments and then 3-0 or 4-0 in the up and downs, then fall out in a miserable way again. havent seen any matches because of work :/
On August 13 2013 21:46 scr wrote: how does DRG doing this? looking mediocre in some tournaments and then 3-0 or 4-0 in the up and downs, then fall out in a miserable way again. havent seen any matches because of work :/
Phew, glad to see DRG through. I've been reading that his games didn't look so hot, so hopefully he can make like Prometheus and steal someone elses' fire.
Squirtle vs Fantasy was interesting. Squirtle almost went full foreigner and lost the game. Glad to see a super late game PvT like that. Although I personally think Squirtle made too many Tempests, but it worked out for him in the end.
I don't know why people say the games were bad..? Watched the DRG v. Fantasy set and it wasn't a terrible game except that Fantasy was at half the APM of DRG throughout the game. ^^ It was incredible to watch DRG maintain 170+ food for 10+ minutes, while battles were ongoing. He would be unstoppable once (and if) he learns how to engage correctly.
I suppose the casters' influence was always the culprit. Did Wolf/Khaldor keep picking on Fantasy's supply block or something?
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