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Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
August 10 2013 22:32 GMT
#1301
On August 11 2013 07:31 Havik_ wrote:
Why did people just give up on Marine Tank in TvZ once the Widow Mine came about? The tanks can deliver constant damage while the mines need 40 seconds to cooldown.

Innovation.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 10 2013 22:32 GMT
#1302
Alive banking so much gas. Not enough mines indeed @phoenixvoid
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
August 10 2013 22:32 GMT
#1303
Those would be...
*sunglasses on*
... SICK fungals.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 10 2013 22:32 GMT
#1304
scarlett should bust the pf
TL+ Member
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
August 10 2013 22:32 GMT
#1305
On August 11 2013 07:30 zainsaGOD wrote:
As a protoss player i have to say TvZ looks like the hardest matchup to play for both sides, so much multitasking needed at the top level


So unforgiving too. Banelings and Widow Mines can force a 20-30 supply drop in seconds if you aren't paying attention for even a second.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 10 2013 22:32 GMT
#1306
On August 11 2013 07:31 Havik_ wrote:
Why did people just give up on Marine Tank in TvZ once the Widow Mine came about? The tanks can deliver constant damage while the mines need 40 seconds to cooldown.


Because unless tanks were behind walls, they usually only got 1 shot off in a lot of the engagements vs Zs
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 10 2013 22:33 GMT
#1307
@havik tanks are just too damn immobile and the damage is not nearly as good against ultras. widowmine's high central damage
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 10 2013 22:33 GMT
#1308
but the brood transition shuts down mines. scarlett is so good! beautiful tech switch!
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 22:34:22
August 10 2013 22:33 GMT
#1309
On August 11 2013 07:31 Havik_ wrote:
Why did people just give up on Marine Tank in TvZ once the Widow Mine came about? The tanks can deliver constant damage while the mines need 40 seconds to cooldown.


Flash + blinding cloud

-I'm not bias-
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 10 2013 22:34 GMT
#1310
I think Scarlett was an amazon warrior in a previous life
you no take candle
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 10 2013 22:34 GMT
#1311
On August 11 2013 07:30 zainsaGOD wrote:
As a protoss player i have to say TvZ looks like the hardest matchup to play for both sides, so much multitasking needed at the top level


PvP is a lot of thinking, preparation and composition.

PvZ is a lot of trickery/blunt force from both sides.

PvT is largely a zoning game by both sides with Terran on a timer to kill Protoss before 4 base.

TvT is about positioning and large dramatic movements in small and large scale fights.

ZvZ is about assessment. Can you read the difference between a 50 drone economy and 60 drone economy and know what that means in a long game?

TvZ is speed. Mechanics against mechanics. attack, counter attack. Drop vs drop defense. Runby vs defense. Creep spread against anti-creep. A constant unending fight from 2-3 base onwards.
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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 10 2013 22:34 GMT
#1312
Fungals getting it good! Beautiful! Fungals Oh my god.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
August 10 2013 22:34 GMT
#1313
On August 11 2013 07:34 sc2holar wrote:
I think Scarlett was an amazon warrior in a previous life

I'm pretty sure she is in the current life.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 10 2013 22:34 GMT
#1314
Great fungals Tasteless!!!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 22:35:59
August 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#1315
On August 11 2013 07:31 Havik_ wrote:
Why did people just give up on Marine Tank in TvZ once the Widow Mine came about? The tanks can deliver constant damage while the mines need 40 seconds to cooldown.


Loads of reasons.

1. Tanks cost 125 gas each. Widow Mines cost 25 gas.

2. Widow Mines can be reactored, Tanks require a tech lab and take MUCH longer to build and replace.

3. Widow Mines require an overseer to clear through. Tanks don't.

4. Widow Mines move and burrow faster than Tanks can siege and unsiege adding a TON of added mobility to the army.

5. That constant DPS from the tanks hardly matters since the battles are over so fast the tank only usually manages to get off 2 shots MAX before it's over.

6. Widow Mines hit air, allowing them to be useful vs Mutalisks. Tanks obviously do not.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#1316
Supply lead for scarlett. Hero ultra. 12 kills!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
August 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#1317
I love Scarlett style. Make every unit!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
August 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#1318
Hero Ultra rushing the terran.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
August 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#1319
badass ultralisk
banelings
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
August 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#1320
dat game ♥
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