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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
August 11 2013 03:50 GMT
#3281
artosis curse too strong
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 11 2013 03:50 GMT
#3282
Quick 0-5 in PvT for Oz.

Seriously, I normally dont like the bland, humble Korean shtick, but I think Oz should just go ahead and stick to it for the sake of his own tournament success. >_>
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 11 2013 03:50 GMT
#3283
On August 11 2013 12:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 12:45 GGzerG wrote:
One thing I have failed to understand probably due to the fact that I haven't been paying attention to WCS lately, is why the NA WCS is predominantly koreans? Why are people from other regions even allowed to play in the region that is not there own?? I don't understand..


Because if that weren't the case we get the same kind of "Global" finals we had last year. A bunch of foreigners no where near as good as the Korean competition getting eliminated as soon as they meet one vs the Koreans good enough to win their own stacked WCS tournament.

The current implementation is going to lead to an EPIC global finale at Blizzcon. If they had region locked it, that tournament would be a total joke with all of the REAL competition happening before it.

What can Blizzard really do about it though?
Moderatorlickypiddy
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 11 2013 03:51 GMT
#3284
That car what o.o haha
jjakji fan
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 11 2013 03:51 GMT
#3285
Days since Oz has invoked his PvT curse:

5

Results since then:

0-3 Polt
0-2 Alive
Moderator
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 11 2013 03:51 GMT
#3286
On August 11 2013 12:51 stuchiu wrote:
Days since Oz has invoked his PvT curse:

5

Results since then:

0-3 Polt
0-2 Alive

Oz cursing him self circa 2011
Moderatorlickypiddy
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 11 2013 03:52 GMT
#3287
On August 11 2013 12:51 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 12:51 stuchiu wrote:
Days since Oz has invoked his PvT curse:

5

Results since then:

0-3 Polt
0-2 Alive

Oz cursing him self circa 2011


His PvP curse ended with the bankruptcy of own3d.
Moderator
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
August 11 2013 03:53 GMT
#3288
On August 11 2013 12:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 12:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:45 GGzerG wrote:
One thing I have failed to understand probably due to the fact that I haven't been paying attention to WCS lately, is why the NA WCS is predominantly koreans? Why are people from other regions even allowed to play in the region that is not there own?? I don't understand..


Because if that weren't the case we get the same kind of "Global" finals we had last year. A bunch of foreigners no where near as good as the Korean competition getting eliminated as soon as they meet one vs the Koreans good enough to win their own stacked WCS tournament.

The current implementation is going to lead to an EPIC global finale at Blizzcon. If they had region locked it, that tournament would be a total joke with all of the REAL competition happening before it.

What can Blizzard really do about it though?


Nothing. The skill divide is just too large for anyone to really do anything about in a short time.

The problem with WCS right now IMO is the kind of chain it puts on the entire scene with its point system, there's no motivation to host side events that potentially helps foster local talent.

There's WCS and there's really JUST WCS at the moment. That's what's wrong with it. Region Locking isn't the answer.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 11 2013 03:54 GMT
#3289
On August 11 2013 12:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 12:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:45 GGzerG wrote:
One thing I have failed to understand probably due to the fact that I haven't been paying attention to WCS lately, is why the NA WCS is predominantly koreans? Why are people from other regions even allowed to play in the region that is not there own?? I don't understand..


Because if that weren't the case we get the same kind of "Global" finals we had last year. A bunch of foreigners no where near as good as the Korean competition getting eliminated as soon as they meet one vs the Koreans good enough to win their own stacked WCS tournament.

The current implementation is going to lead to an EPIC global finale at Blizzcon. If they had region locked it, that tournament would be a total joke with all of the REAL competition happening before it.

What can Blizzard really do about it though?


Nothing. The skill divide is just too large for anyone to really do anything about in a short time.

The problem with WCS right now IMO is the kind of chain it puts on the entire scene with its point system, there's no motivation to host side events that potentially helps foster local talent.

There's WCS and there's really JUST WCS at the moment. That's what's wrong with it. Region Locking isn't the answer.


End the no compete clause in WCS so other tournaments can run at the same time as WCS. That might be something worth thinking about.
Moderator
ArchangelJada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
August 11 2013 03:55 GMT
#3290
oooh no handshake so bm
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 11 2013 03:55 GMT
#3291
JimDong was the best match? Recommendations from you guys?
jjakji fan
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 11 2013 03:55 GMT
#3292
On August 11 2013 12:55 slowbacontron wrote:
JimDong was the best match? Recommendations from you guys?


TaeJa vs. MacSed game two.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 11 2013 03:56 GMT
#3293
On August 11 2013 12:55 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 12:55 slowbacontron wrote:
JimDong was the best match? Recommendations from you guys?


TaeJa vs. MacSed game two.

Noted, thanks!
jjakji fan
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
August 11 2013 03:57 GMT
#3294
On August 11 2013 12:54 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 12:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:45 GGzerG wrote:
One thing I have failed to understand probably due to the fact that I haven't been paying attention to WCS lately, is why the NA WCS is predominantly koreans? Why are people from other regions even allowed to play in the region that is not there own?? I don't understand..


Because if that weren't the case we get the same kind of "Global" finals we had last year. A bunch of foreigners no where near as good as the Korean competition getting eliminated as soon as they meet one vs the Koreans good enough to win their own stacked WCS tournament.

The current implementation is going to lead to an EPIC global finale at Blizzcon. If they had region locked it, that tournament would be a total joke with all of the REAL competition happening before it.

What can Blizzard really do about it though?


Nothing. The skill divide is just too large for anyone to really do anything about in a short time.

The problem with WCS right now IMO is the kind of chain it puts on the entire scene with its point system, there's no motivation to host side events that potentially helps foster local talent.

There's WCS and there's really JUST WCS at the moment. That's what's wrong with it. Region Locking isn't the answer.


End the no compete clause in WCS so other tournaments can run at the same time as WCS. That might be something worth thinking about.


Absolutely.

NA and Europe aren't going to get any better getting crushed by Koreans from better teams with a better infrastructure that trains them.

There needs to be a "foreigner scene" that's separate from the Korean scene that can foster North American and European aspiring pros for the big task of challenging the Koreans in WCS.

WCS is for finding the "One Global Champion" which is a great goal that I totally respect. But there has to be a side movement under it that helps stoke the embers to keep the fire going.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
August 11 2013 03:58 GMT
#3295
hah.. sweet.. great job everyone!
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 11 2013 03:59 GMT
#3296
That's it I can't stay up one more second

See you all in next whatever LR
AdministratorBreak the chains
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
August 11 2013 03:59 GMT
#3297
so um.. hm.. now what?
~ The Ultimate Weapon
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 11 2013 04:03 GMT
#3298
On August 11 2013 12:59 CCa1ss1e wrote:
so um.. hm.. now what?


Get some sleep and wake up in 6 hours for WCS EU.
Moderator
Kyaaaaa
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada46 Posts
August 11 2013 04:23 GMT
#3299
On August 11 2013 12:09 mcmartini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 12:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:06 GGQ wrote:
Scarlett!

She can do this, I believe.


She has a very hard road ahead of her.

Jaedong is an absolute MONSTER in ZvZ.

Except when he choked and got 4-1 by Hyun recently.

Yeah. Too bad Scarlett is not even close to Hyun in skill.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
August 11 2013 04:29 GMT
#3300
On August 11 2013 13:23 Kyaaaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 12:09 mcmartini wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 11 2013 12:06 GGQ wrote:
Scarlett!

She can do this, I believe.


She has a very hard road ahead of her.

Jaedong is an absolute MONSTER in ZvZ.

Except when he choked and got 4-1 by Hyun recently.

Yeah. Too bad Scarlett is not even close to Hyun in skill.

It was 3-1 and Hyun pretty much forced Jaedong to play roach-style which wasn't exactly his ideal style.
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