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On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP. I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.
The thing is, Terran doesn't need any buff right now. And making more strats viable is a pretty strong buff in itself, other races have to be ready for more stuff. It would probably have to come with some kind of nerf. I'm not sure they would be willing to fuck up Terran as it is now just to buff mech :D
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Eh, season 3 is produced by gom. No point of watching osl stream when season 2 is almost over.
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On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP. I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.
Sadly Blizzards thinks mech boring and won't push for it.
At least we still have Strelok and Goody.
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France9034 Posts
On August 01 2013 18:48 Sakkreth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:45 Ragnarork wrote:On August 01 2013 18:43 edgeOut wrote:On August 01 2013 18:41 Ragnarork wrote:On August 01 2013 18:40 Sakkreth wrote:On August 01 2013 18:40 shubcraft wrote:
so does anyone still think mech is valid in high level PvT?! Yes if u siege some tanks and dont try to eat every storm there is. Good luck against speedlots + dodging storms with tanks deployed. Yeah, tons of saved hellbats from storms can't deal with speedlots, right? Hellbats die to storm. They're like bioball. But without stim. Which makes them sit in storms for ages. Are you trolling ? You just used a counter argument for ur own argument in same post which is one line...
I think you def. didn't really read my posts. Please do or stop that...
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If you're having problems on Twitch, or alternatively; if you're using Twitch.
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On August 01 2013 18:48 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:47 Wintex wrote:On August 01 2013 18:46 KristofferAG wrote:On August 01 2013 18:45 Wintex wrote:On August 01 2013 18:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:On August 01 2013 18:43 Wintex wrote:On August 01 2013 18:41 lichter wrote:
Lol mech what focus on driving, lichter. speaking of driving, when I was coming home on the interstate today, someone was going the wrong fucking way probably a brit. they do it wrong yaknow I thought Aussies did that too. they live to far away for me to care about them. (sorry if i break your heart now) Why would I care
Maybe you have an aussie gf.
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On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP. I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.
I'm pretty sure an Immortal nerf would solve everything. Just remove their hardened shield ability and change their name to (insert antonym of immortal).
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Not going to lie, this Chobra/Whiplash combo is really doing it for me. They need to hook up more on SC2.
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with the reduced cost of cloak i think he should have mixed in a few banshees to get some harasment done and force some stalkers. With the thors later on he can get rid of observers in the battle and then banshees can be very good.
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On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP. I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.
Just nerf Hardened Shields.
That's all you'd need to do.
That opens earlier timings with Siege Tanks which in turn changes the dynamic of the match up because as it stands now unless you want your attack to fail horribly like Bomber's you can't attack a Protoss player without both Ghosts and Vikings backing your army up which means the Protoss gets a free three base economy which they can do any number of things with.
Nerfing Hardened Shields does nothing vs Zerg since you need Forcefields anyway to protect the Immortals from Roaches but it helps tremendously vs Thors and Siege Tanks since Hardened Shields blocks 80% and 66% damage respectively.
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Just learned I gotta visit my grand father... Why now?
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On August 01 2013 18:49 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:46 Godwrath wrote:On August 01 2013 18:44 Fyzar wrote:On August 01 2013 18:41 JoeSchmoe wrote:On August 01 2013 18:40 Fyzar wrote:On August 01 2013 18:39 Godwrath wrote:
This is exactly why you don't mech on TvP.
Derpmortals. Tbh the problem there was the hellbats dying to storms before the battle had even started x]. which is exactly why you don't go mech in TvP like he said.. Wat. He ''blamed'' the immortals for Bomber losing, I said it was more the storms than the immortals. Oh i said derpmortals because the shield hardcounter is rather silly, not because they are the only reason why mech doesn't work. Archon, storm and immortals are pretty much all you have to do against mech. Playing mech is like a protoss trying to win midgame with only gateway units because the terran army composition is very efficient against it. It's funny how ghosts counter all units supposed to counter mech. Think about that 
Ghosts "counter" Tempests?
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On August 01 2013 18:49 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:46 Godwrath wrote:On August 01 2013 18:44 Fyzar wrote:On August 01 2013 18:41 JoeSchmoe wrote:On August 01 2013 18:40 Fyzar wrote:On August 01 2013 18:39 Godwrath wrote:
This is exactly why you don't mech on TvP.
Derpmortals. Tbh the problem there was the hellbats dying to storms before the battle had even started x]. which is exactly why you don't go mech in TvP like he said.. Wat. He ''blamed'' the immortals for Bomber losing, I said it was more the storms than the immortals. Oh i said derpmortals because the shield hardcounter is rather silly, not because they are the only reason why mech doesn't work. Archon, storm and immortals are pretty much all you have to do against mech. Playing mech is like a protoss trying to win midgame with only gateway units because the terran army composition is very efficient against it. It's funny how ghosts counter all units supposed to counter mech. Think about that
By the time you got ghosts your opponent is already pushing you, taking the whole map, and/or building airtoss.
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Austria24422 Posts
Chobra is like an optimized version of John
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On August 01 2013 18:48 Hassybaby wrote:
Wintex y u no post English songs as well?
I watch OGN yo. sorry. tell me if it comes on again and ill find it for you hassy.
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Northern Ireland27206 Posts
On August 01 2013 18:49 Sevre wrote:
Not going to lie, this Chobra/Whiplash combo is really doing it for me. They need to hook up more on SC2.
It's pretty good, also really shows that Whiplash really isn't that bad if you stick him with somebody he has a good chemistry with.
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anyone else noticed how mostly protoss defend mech as viable, only so they can face it on ladder and laugh? XDDD
kk game 2 was trolling, bomber, back to allin!
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Austria24422 Posts
On August 01 2013 18:50 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:49 Douillos wrote:On August 01 2013 18:46 Godwrath wrote:On August 01 2013 18:44 Fyzar wrote:On August 01 2013 18:41 JoeSchmoe wrote:On August 01 2013 18:40 Fyzar wrote:On August 01 2013 18:39 Godwrath wrote:
This is exactly why you don't mech on TvP.
Derpmortals. Tbh the problem there was the hellbats dying to storms before the battle had even started x]. which is exactly why you don't go mech in TvP like he said.. Wat. He ''blamed'' the immortals for Bomber losing, I said it was more the storms than the immortals. Oh i said derpmortals because the shield hardcounter is rather silly, not because they are the only reason why mech doesn't work. Archon, storm and immortals are pretty much all you have to do against mech. Playing mech is like a protoss trying to win midgame with only gateway units because the terran army composition is very efficient against it. It's funny how ghosts counter all units supposed to counter mech. Think about that Ghosts "counter" Tempests?
They shoot up yo
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On August 01 2013 18:50 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP. I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work. Nerfing Hardened Shields does nothing vs Zerg .
wat.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 01 2013 18:49 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 18:46 Godwrath wrote:On August 01 2013 18:44 Fyzar wrote:On August 01 2013 18:41 JoeSchmoe wrote:On August 01 2013 18:40 Fyzar wrote:On August 01 2013 18:39 Godwrath wrote:
This is exactly why you don't mech on TvP.
Derpmortals. Tbh the problem there was the hellbats dying to storms before the battle had even started x]. which is exactly why you don't go mech in TvP like he said.. Wat. He ''blamed'' the immortals for Bomber losing, I said it was more the storms than the immortals. Oh i said derpmortals because the shield hardcounter is rather silly, not because they are the only reason why mech doesn't work. Archon, storm and immortals are pretty much all you have to do against mech. Playing mech is like a protoss trying to win midgame with only gateway units because the terran army composition is very efficient against it. It's funny how ghosts counter all units supposed to counter mech. Think about that
Carriers? Tempests? Void Rays? Re-max out on zealot archon?
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