EPT[ATC] Axiom vs Millenium, Week 8 - Page 6
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20cts
France175 Posts
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
Hope they bring out the top players on the next games so I might be able to go and see them in Germany  ))) | ||
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ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
But yeah, the chances are slim for Millenium. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On July 30 2013 23:45 Otolia wrote: I know you must feel at home in the gutter where I just join you. Need a translator here, this man is speaking fluent moonlanguage. | ||
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Foudzing
France181 Posts
If you want to stay a bit fair in this cup, Axiom vs Quantic should be play last so Axiom - TL cannot arrange themselves for a tie because there is a risk that Axiom will lost vs Quantic after (a small risk tho). | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
Quantic doesnt have any incentive to win so i dont expect them to be that determined to kick out axiom though. For possible future seasons i would suggest that you have to stick to the schedule. If you dont play your match within the week they are scheduled, it ends up in a tie with 0.5 points for each team and 0-0 maps. You have 2 wildcards per season to extend the deadline for an additional week. maybe a little more elaborate so nobody forces a tie or rather goes with the 0.5 points than risking to have zero points, but something along those lines. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
On July 31 2013 00:18 20cts wrote: Axiom is the clear favorite over Quantic. The question is will TL still deliver after they get the only win they need ? I actually don't think so at all. Sure if you look at their teamleague status they are not the favorite,but i believe that's mainly because of poor player sending in teamgames. Quantic to me is the favorite,now its up to them to decide if they want to win or not. If they want to win they simply have to align  HyuN StarDust CenterApocalypseHwangSinaka the A team. TREME and Venus are good to but they are too unstable to use if quantic really wanted to win this. Ax is good but they can't quite compare to the A team of quantic. They do have better results because they are experienced in teamleagues that's about it. But since quantic is already out they will probably send a few new players to the test bench,i could see a TREME of Venus being send first. | ||
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
On July 31 2013 01:47 shid0x wrote: I actually don't think so at all. Sure if you look at their teamleague status they are not the favorite,but i believe that's mainly because of poor player sending in teamgames. Quantic to me is the favorite,now its up to them to decide if they want to win or not. If they want to win they simply have to align HyuNStarDustCenterApocalypseHwangSinaka the A team. TREME and Venus are good to but they are too unstable to use if quantic really wanted to win this. Ax is good but they can't quite compare to the A team of quantic. They do have better results because they are experienced in teamleagues that's about it. But since quantic is already out they will probably send a few new players to the test bench,i could see a TREME of Venus being send first. That's Quantics A-Team? Ryung can allkill that easily place Alicia in the bag and you got a sealed deal Quantics A-Team can even be beaten by axiom-acres B-team | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
 TL and Axiom will do what they need to go to the playoffs together. Tie 1-1. A solution is to play Quantic vs Axiom after Axiom vs TL. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 31 2013 01:19 SpikeStarcraft wrote: yeah i agree Axiom vs Quantic last plz. Quantic doesnt have any incentive to win so i dont expect them to be that determined to kick out axiom though. For possible future seasons i would suggest that you have to stick to the schedule. If you dont play your match within the week they are scheduled, it ends up in a tie with 0.5 points for each team and 0-0 maps. You have 2 wildcards per season to extend the deadline for an additional week. maybe a little more elaborate so nobody forces a tie or rather goes with the 0.5 points than risking to have zero points, but something along those lines. That wouldn't exactly be fair to the team that might be ready to play their game. Either you accept there will be delays (within reason) or you give the team that can't show up a forfeit. Personally I think you'll have to accept certain delays in online international tournaments, especially team leagues. It's hard enough for single player events to have all matches played on time where you don't have to schedule around a bunch of players all being available at the same time. Or you only have teams in the league that have enough players that it doesn't matter if a couple isn't available each week. Axiom having the smallest lineup suffers most if there is some scheduling conflicts. Also the TL-Axiom conspiracies are a little amusing. You don't think much of the players do you.... | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:13 nam nam wrote: That wouldn't exactly be fair to the team that might be ready to play their game. Either you accept there will be delays (within reason) or you give the team that can't show up a forfeit. Personally I think you'll have to accept certain delays in online international tournaments, especially team leagues. It's hard enough for single player events to have all matches played on time where you don't have to schedule around a bunch of players all being available at the same time. Or you only have teams in the league that have enough players that it doesn't matter if a couple isn't available each week. Axiom having the smallest lineup suffers most if there is some scheduling conflicts. Also the TL-Axiom conspiracies are a little amusing. You don't think much of the players do you.... In every sport, a situation like that almost always lead to the score favorising the 2 teams. We are lucky enough in e-sport to have a non-fixed shedule to avoid things like that. That would totally be fair and logic to avoid this situation by playing Axiom vs quantic in last. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On July 31 2013 02:13 nam nam wrote: That wouldn't exactly be fair to the team that might be ready to play their game. Either you accept there will be delays (within reason) or you give the team that can't show up a forfeit. Personally I think you'll have to accept certain delays in online international tournaments, especially team leagues. It's hard enough for single player events to have all matches played on time where you don't have to schedule around a bunch of players all being available at the same time. Or you only have teams in the league that have enough players that it doesn't matter if a couple isn't available each week. Axiom having the smallest lineup suffers most if there is some scheduling conflicts. Also the TL-Axiom conspiracies are a little amusing. You don't think much of the players do you.... A little delay is acceptable of course but Axiom had 3x more matches late than the other teams at the end (today's match was from week 8 and they have still a match from week 6 (!) to play against Liquid). But I don't think a team should be punished for that, it's also admins responsibility to ensure that the games are played in time. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
July 31, 18:00 CEST, Liquid vs Axiom August 2, 16:00 CEST, Quantic vs Axiom August 2, 18:00 CEST, Axiom vs Liquid | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:15 Makro wrote: so in résumé millenium is fucked by the schedule ? We can say that. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:15 Makro wrote: so in résumé millenium is fucked by the schedule ? No. In résumé, Millenium had to win 3 maps but failed to do so. The rest is mostly bad admin but it has been the same since the start of the tournament. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:15 Makro wrote: so in résumé millenium is fucked by the schedule ? Millenium isn't helped by the schedule but fucked up themselves. They had a royal road to qualify and lost 4 of the last 5 matches. Every time 5-2 or 5-1. | ||
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IamThundeR
France2 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On July 31 2013 03:31 Boucot wrote: Millenium isn't helped by the schedule but fucked up themselves. They had a royal road to qualify and lost 4 of the last 5 matches. Every time 5-2 or 5-1. Well yeah, I mean I'm not sure why people can say "it's the schedules fault" when they keep losing with bad mapscores. You wanna talk about the schedule? Our guys had to play with 3 people today, 3. They've also had to play at all hours of the night to accommodate other teams. Millenium is not being shafted by the schedule, the schedule is hard on everyone. Such is the nature of an online teamleague that's being played across 3 continents. At the end of the day, teams don't make the playoffs because they lose too much. That's how it works. | ||
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