MarineKing actually looked a lot better this time. He had some static defenses up even before he was attacked (!), he tried some drops (!!), and game 3 looked actually pretty close to what Innovation does in that matchup, although Shine isn't exactly a tip-top Zerg. Is he starting to evolve!?
On July 18 2013 20:29 DrPandaPhD wrote: Happy Jjakji lost, hope he drops out of Code A next season
Is this because of GSL November 2011?
Partly, but it's more than he became irrelevant right after he did it. Like if you are going to beat Leenock in a Code S final at least be good. I don't mind Leenock losing the MLG finals because Life is actually really good and has done more than just that MLG. I hate Jjakji because he was a one-hit wonder when Leenock had his big chance on winning on Korean soil which pretty much is every Koreans dream. And now Jjakji has been irrelevant for so long he should just stay irrelevant forever, fuck that guy.
I still believe that Leenock one day will be a GSL / OSL champion. It just could have happened so much earlier.
On July 18 2013 20:29 DrPandaPhD wrote: Happy Jjakji lost, hope he drops out of Code A next season
Is this because of GSL November 2011?
Partly, but it's more than he became irrelevant right after he did it. Like if you are going to beat Leenock in a Code S final at least be good. I don't mind Leenock losing the MLG finals because Life is actually really good and has done more than just that MLG. I hate Jjakji because he was a one-hit wonder when Leenock had his big chance on winning on Korean soil which pretty much is every Koreans dream. And now Jjakji has been irrelevant for so long he should just stay irrelevant forever, fuck that guy.
I still believe that Leenock one day will be a GSL / OSL champion. It just could have happened so much earlier.
This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player, especially because he actually only really became irrelevant after the patch that destroyed MKP (just after winning 2-3 MLGs against a solid DRG) as well . The season before he lost a few TvTs, that was never his strong suit and some PvP against very hard protosses, but at the time he had one sick TvZ style and was actually playing better than Leenock during these finals. And I'm sure that if he hadn't played his RO24 code A one day after the patch he would have beaten Symbol and everything would have been different.
Like you can blame any terran for being irrelevant during the rest of 2012 when only one terran at a time was capable to go "far" in GSL every season.
On July 18 2013 20:29 DrPandaPhD wrote: Happy Jjakji lost, hope he drops out of Code A next season
Is this because of GSL November 2011?
Partly, but it's more than he became irrelevant right after he did it. Like if you are going to beat Leenock in a Code S final at least be good. I don't mind Leenock losing the MLG finals because Life is actually really good and has done more than just that MLG. I hate Jjakji because he was a one-hit wonder when Leenock had his big chance on winning on Korean soil which pretty much is every Koreans dream. And now Jjakji has been irrelevant for so long he should just stay irrelevant forever, fuck that guy.
I still believe that Leenock one day will be a GSL / OSL champion. It just could have happened so much earlier.
This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player, especially because he actually only really became irrelevant after the patch that destroyed MKP (just after winning 2-3 MLGs against a solid DRG) as well . The season before he lost a few TvTs, that was never his strong suit and some PvP against very hard protosses, but at the time he had one sick TvZ style and was actually playing better than Leenock during these finals. And I'm sure that if he hadn't played his RO24 code A one day after the patch he would have beaten Symbol and everything would have been different.
Like you can blame any terran for being irrelevant during the rest of 2012 when only one terran at a time was capable to go "far" in GSL every season.
Yes he was playing better than Leenock during the finals. As I said he was a one-hit wonder. He played really good one season and then he's been shit all other times.
Difference in being irrelevant and not going far. There were a lot of terrans who managed to stay Code S, even Code A, which makes them relevant. People talked about them. no one ever said anything about Jjakji. Don't have to win a GSL to stay relevant. Bomber, Ryung, MKP, Taeja, ByuN, Maru, Polt, Gumiho are just some of the terrans who stayed relevant during 2012.
"This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player" Except for Drama-queens, tell me one better reason to hate a player? He crushed my (by far) favourite player's dream and then dropped out of the scene. Not because he wanted, but because he played like shit. If Leenock lost to players like Life, Mvp, DRG, Taeja, Bomber, PartinG etc he could think "At least I lost to someone who is really good at Starcraft." Because they all stayed relevant. Yeah, they have all had their slumps but at least they have been relevant for most of the time. But now he lost to someone who actually is not very good at all and had 1 dream run.
I think we can both agree, that Leenock has proven himself to be the better SC2 player.
And I think we can both agree that Jjakji is the most irrelevant Code S champion of all time.
So once again, tell me one better reason to hate a player?
On July 18 2013 20:29 DrPandaPhD wrote: Happy Jjakji lost, hope he drops out of Code A next season
Is this because of GSL November 2011?
Partly, but it's more than he became irrelevant right after he did it. Like if you are going to beat Leenock in a Code S final at least be good. I don't mind Leenock losing the MLG finals because Life is actually really good and has done more than just that MLG. I hate Jjakji because he was a one-hit wonder when Leenock had his big chance on winning on Korean soil which pretty much is every Koreans dream. And now Jjakji has been irrelevant for so long he should just stay irrelevant forever, fuck that guy.
I still believe that Leenock one day will be a GSL / OSL champion. It just could have happened so much earlier.
This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player, especially because he actually only really became irrelevant after the patch that destroyed MKP (just after winning 2-3 MLGs against a solid DRG) as well . The season before he lost a few TvTs, that was never his strong suit and some PvP against very hard protosses, but at the time he had one sick TvZ style and was actually playing better than Leenock during these finals. And I'm sure that if he hadn't played his RO24 code A one day after the patch he would have beaten Symbol and everything would have been different.
Like you can blame any terran for being irrelevant during the rest of 2012 when only one terran at a time was capable to go "far" in GSL every season.
Yes he was playing better than Leenock during the finals. As I said he was a one-hit wonder. He played really good one season and then he's been shit all other times.
Difference in being irrelevant and not going far. There were a lot of terrans who managed to stay Code S, even Code A, which makes them relevant. People talked about them. no one ever said anything about Jjakji. Don't have to win a GSL to stay relevant. Bomber, Ryung, MKP, Taeja, ByuN, Maru, Polt, Gumiho are just some of the terrans who stayed relevant during 2012.
"This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player" Except for Drama-queens, tell me one better reason to hate a player? He crushed my (by far) favourite player's dream and then dropped out of the scene. Not because he wanted, but because he played like shit. If Leenock lost to players like Life, Mvp, DRG, Taeja, Bomber, PartinG etc he could think "At least I lost to someone who is really good at Starcraft." Because they all stayed relevant. Yeah, they have all had their slumps but at least they have been relevant for most of the time. But now he lost to someone who actually is not very good at all and had 1 dream run.
I think we can both agree, that Leenock has proven himself to be the better SC2 player.
And I think we can both agree that Jjakji is the most irrelevant Code S champion of all time.
So once again, tell me one better reason to hate a player?
On July 18 2013 20:29 DrPandaPhD wrote: Happy Jjakji lost, hope he drops out of Code A next season
Is this because of GSL November 2011?
Partly, but it's more than he became irrelevant right after he did it. Like if you are going to beat Leenock in a Code S final at least be good. I don't mind Leenock losing the MLG finals because Life is actually really good and has done more than just that MLG. I hate Jjakji because he was a one-hit wonder when Leenock had his big chance on winning on Korean soil which pretty much is every Koreans dream. And now Jjakji has been irrelevant for so long he should just stay irrelevant forever, fuck that guy.
I still believe that Leenock one day will be a GSL / OSL champion. It just could have happened so much earlier.
This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player, especially because he actually only really became irrelevant after the patch that destroyed MKP (just after winning 2-3 MLGs against a solid DRG) as well . The season before he lost a few TvTs, that was never his strong suit and some PvP against very hard protosses, but at the time he had one sick TvZ style and was actually playing better than Leenock during these finals. And I'm sure that if he hadn't played his RO24 code A one day after the patch he would have beaten Symbol and everything would have been different.
Like you can blame any terran for being irrelevant during the rest of 2012 when only one terran at a time was capable to go "far" in GSL every season.
Yes he was playing better than Leenock during the finals. As I said he was a one-hit wonder. He played really good one season and then he's been shit all other times.
Difference in being irrelevant and not going far. There were a lot of terrans who managed to stay Code S, even Code A, which makes them relevant. People talked about them. no one ever said anything about Jjakji. Don't have to win a GSL to stay relevant. Bomber, Ryung, MKP, Taeja, ByuN, Maru, Polt, Gumiho are just some of the terrans who stayed relevant during 2012.
"This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player" Except for Drama-queens, tell me one better reason to hate a player? He crushed my (by far) favourite player's dream and then dropped out of the scene. Not because he wanted, but because he played like shit. If Leenock lost to players like Life, Mvp, DRG, Taeja, Bomber, PartinG etc he could think "At least I lost to someone who is really good at Starcraft." Because they all stayed relevant. Yeah, they have all had their slumps but at least they have been relevant for most of the time. But now he lost to someone who actually is not very good at all and had 1 dream run.
I think we can both agree, that Leenock has proven himself to be the better SC2 player.
And I think we can both agree that Jjakji is the most irrelevant Code S champion of all time.
So once again, tell me one better reason to hate a player?
On July 18 2013 20:29 DrPandaPhD wrote: Happy Jjakji lost, hope he drops out of Code A next season
Is this because of GSL November 2011?
Partly, but it's more than he became irrelevant right after he did it. Like if you are going to beat Leenock in a Code S final at least be good. I don't mind Leenock losing the MLG finals because Life is actually really good and has done more than just that MLG. I hate Jjakji because he was a one-hit wonder when Leenock had his big chance on winning on Korean soil which pretty much is every Koreans dream. And now Jjakji has been irrelevant for so long he should just stay irrelevant forever, fuck that guy.
I still believe that Leenock one day will be a GSL / OSL champion. It just could have happened so much earlier.
This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player, especially because he actually only really became irrelevant after the patch that destroyed MKP (just after winning 2-3 MLGs against a solid DRG) as well . The season before he lost a few TvTs, that was never his strong suit and some PvP against very hard protosses, but at the time he had one sick TvZ style and was actually playing better than Leenock during these finals. And I'm sure that if he hadn't played his RO24 code A one day after the patch he would have beaten Symbol and everything would have been different.
Like you can blame any terran for being irrelevant during the rest of 2012 when only one terran at a time was capable to go "far" in GSL every season.
Yes he was playing better than Leenock during the finals. As I said he was a one-hit wonder. He played really good one season and then he's been shit all other times.
Difference in being irrelevant and not going far. There were a lot of terrans who managed to stay Code S, even Code A, which makes them relevant. People talked about them. no one ever said anything about Jjakji. Don't have to win a GSL to stay relevant. Bomber, Ryung, MKP, Taeja, ByuN, Maru, Polt, Gumiho are just some of the terrans who stayed relevant during 2012.
"This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player" Except for Drama-queens, tell me one better reason to hate a player? He crushed my (by far) favourite player's dream and then dropped out of the scene. Not because he wanted, but because he played like shit. If Leenock lost to players like Life, Mvp, DRG, Taeja, Bomber, PartinG etc he could think "At least I lost to someone who is really good at Starcraft." Because they all stayed relevant. Yeah, they have all had their slumps but at least they have been relevant for most of the time. But now he lost to someone who actually is not very good at all and had 1 dream run.
I think we can both agree, that Leenock has proven himself to be the better SC2 player.
And I think we can both agree that Jjakji is the most irrelevant Code S champion of all time.
So once again, tell me one better reason to hate a player?
One name, Sniper.
Seed
Well, Seed is actually doing things right now. Not big things but things
On July 18 2013 20:29 DrPandaPhD wrote: Happy Jjakji lost, hope he drops out of Code A next season
Is this because of GSL November 2011?
Partly, but it's more than he became irrelevant right after he did it. Like if you are going to beat Leenock in a Code S final at least be good. I don't mind Leenock losing the MLG finals because Life is actually really good and has done more than just that MLG. I hate Jjakji because he was a one-hit wonder when Leenock had his big chance on winning on Korean soil which pretty much is every Koreans dream. And now Jjakji has been irrelevant for so long he should just stay irrelevant forever, fuck that guy.
I still believe that Leenock one day will be a GSL / OSL champion. It just could have happened so much earlier.
This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player, especially because he actually only really became irrelevant after the patch that destroyed MKP (just after winning 2-3 MLGs against a solid DRG) as well . The season before he lost a few TvTs, that was never his strong suit and some PvP against very hard protosses, but at the time he had one sick TvZ style and was actually playing better than Leenock during these finals. And I'm sure that if he hadn't played his RO24 code A one day after the patch he would have beaten Symbol and everything would have been different.
Like you can blame any terran for being irrelevant during the rest of 2012 when only one terran at a time was capable to go "far" in GSL every season.
Yes he was playing better than Leenock during the finals. As I said he was a one-hit wonder. He played really good one season and then he's been shit all other times.
Difference in being irrelevant and not going far. There were a lot of terrans who managed to stay Code S, even Code A, which makes them relevant. People talked about them. no one ever said anything about Jjakji. Don't have to win a GSL to stay relevant. Bomber, Ryung, MKP, Taeja, ByuN, Maru, Polt, Gumiho are just some of the terrans who stayed relevant during 2012.
"This is kind of a silly reason to hate on a player" Except for Drama-queens, tell me one better reason to hate a player? He crushed my (by far) favourite player's dream and then dropped out of the scene. Not because he wanted, but because he played like shit. If Leenock lost to players like Life, Mvp, DRG, Taeja, Bomber, PartinG etc he could think "At least I lost to someone who is really good at Starcraft." Because they all stayed relevant. Yeah, they have all had their slumps but at least they have been relevant for most of the time. But now he lost to someone who actually is not very good at all and had 1 dream run.
I think we can both agree, that Leenock has proven himself to be the better SC2 player.
And I think we can both agree that Jjakji is the most irrelevant Code S champion of all time.
So once again, tell me one better reason to hate a player?
One name, Sniper.
Seed
Well, Seed is actually doing things right now. Not big things but things
Sniper all killed a gstl semifinalist team yesterday
mma could make a case for being the champion with the hardest fall i.e. over a period of a few months he changed from #1 to pretty irrelevant while the other three weren't really considered the best of their time
On July 19 2013 09:35 opterown wrote: mma could make a case for being the champion with the hardest fall i.e. over a period of a few months he changed from #1 to pretty irrelevant while the other three weren't really considered the best of their time
Yeah this is pretty much it - but that is with all the drama in SlayerS. Also he is still a huge fan favourite and thus still relevant in the scene.