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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 12 2013 11:52 GMT
#981
If Avenge won this I think it would be even more impressive than Symbol's reverse all kill.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
July 12 2013 11:52 GMT
#982
what is this song they play during breaks?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
July 12 2013 11:52 GMT
#983
On July 12 2013 20:51 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:50 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Scout it. If you have no idea what's going on in any way, shape, or form, you're pretty much dead as a doornail.


Supernova new that it was coming, that's why he built three bunkers. Just quit the "scout anything to win talk", it does not work that way.


He needs more marines and more bunkers. If he scouts it, he can cut those missile turrets and some SCVs for more of that. Then you hold on until you have medivacs´stim, then you win.
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niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
July 12 2013 11:53 GMT
#984
On July 12 2013 20:50 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Scout it. If you have no idea what's going on in any way, shape, or form, you're pretty much dead as a doornail.


Even if you scout it it's still hard. On ladder i sometimes ebay block, P gets annoyed and immortal allins. I scout it, make bunkers and pull svcs in time and still lose most of the time. It's pretty hard to get the right amount of units/bunkers.
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
July 12 2013 11:54 GMT
#985
Stop saying call scvs, they will eventually get FF'd and bunkers will get 2 shooted.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 12 2013 11:54 GMT
#986
On July 12 2013 20:52 NovemberstOrm wrote:
If Avenge won this I think it would be even more impressive than Symbol's reverse all kill.

Easily, considering he needs to go through San and probably Symbol to get there.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 12 2013 11:54 GMT
#987
On July 12 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Obviously it needs to be scouted and you need to add more bunkers, possibly widow mines, buying time until medivacs are out also can really help you.

I tend to think building reactors and tech labs as the protoss army is waiting outside your main is also a bad choice.


This*
Try to get a Starport with Medivac ASAP don't make any adodns from your first raxes but add on two later on with tech labs and just smash your Terran army into the Protoss face and you're good.

(ofc by then you also have to watch out for DT's)
The curse is real
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 12 2013 11:54 GMT
#988
On July 12 2013 20:52 NovemberstOrm wrote:
If Avenge won this I think it would be even more impressive than Symbol's reverse all kill.

Symbol reverse all killed a player that didn't come out of nowhere though. No one predicted genius coming out, and no one thought he would do well. Even if losira was in a slump he wasn't completely written off.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 12 2013 11:55 GMT
#989
On July 12 2013 20:52 HugzForL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Obviously it needs to be scouted and you need to add more bunkers, possibly widow mines, buying time until medivacs are out also can really help you.



Man he scouted it, he knew something was up. And you just won't buy enough time for medivac, unless the protoss just falls asleep in front of your base. And more bunker? Remember Naniwa a-clicked into Lucifron's 5 bunkers. Still went through.

someone is mad. 1. it wasn't a click. 2. it doesn't help you if you have more bunkers than units. and 3. what novemberstorm said.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 12 2013 11:55 GMT
#990
Should just go for a bc rush imo, it worked well for wintex.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 11:57:05
July 12 2013 11:56 GMT
#991
On July 12 2013 20:55 bo1b wrote:
Should just go for a bc rush imo, it worked well for wintex.

Wrong race bro.

Kinda missing Wintex right now.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
July 12 2013 11:57 GMT
#992
On July 12 2013 20:55 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:52 HugzForL wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Obviously it needs to be scouted and you need to add more bunkers, possibly widow mines, buying time until medivacs are out also can really help you.



Man he scouted it, he knew something was up. And you just won't buy enough time for medivac, unless the protoss just falls asleep in front of your base. And more bunker? Remember Naniwa a-clicked into Lucifron's 5 bunkers. Still went through.

someone is mad. 1. it wasn't a click. 2. it doesn't help you if you have more bunkers than units. and 3. what novemberstorm said.


Yeah clearly i am mad, lol. It's just funny how you guys are hypocrites, this all-in is so easy to perform while being so hard to defend. Yeah yeah, the obvious better player was the protoss right there. He did some amazing ff's, so hard!

User was temp banned for this post.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
July 12 2013 11:57 GMT
#993
On July 12 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Obviously it needs to be scouted and you need to add more bunkers, possibly widow mines, buying time until medivacs are out also can really help you.

I tend to think building reactors and tech labs as the protoss army is waiting outside your main is also a bad choice.


This is usually why I would die to this push in WoL.

If I didn't see it coming and began adding reactors and the push came while the reactors were building it usually meant I was dead.

Supernova DEFINITELY got taken by surprise by the timing, that delayed pull on the SCVs was critical, the whole purpose of the build is to bust down bunkers by using Forcefield to keep the SCVs from repairing, if you scout it beforehand you can leave SCVs in front of the bunkers to mitigate how effective Forcefield is.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 12 2013 11:57 GMT
#994
On July 12 2013 20:56 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:55 bo1b wrote:
Should just go for a bc rush imo, it worked well for wintex.

Wrong race bro.

Kinda missing Wintex right now.


Where is the poor guy I'm missing all the MVP bias in the threads T_T
The curse is real
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
July 12 2013 11:57 GMT
#995
On July 12 2013 20:51 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:50 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Scout it. If you have no idea what's going on in any way, shape, or form, you're pretty much dead as a doornail.


Supernova new that it was coming, that's why he built three bunkers. Just quit the "scout anything to win talk", it does not work that way.

Supernova didn't know the immortal push was coming, otherwise he woulda put down more than 3 bunkers. He just knew some sort of attack was coming, which is why he pu down two turrets to be super safe. His initial 5-6 marines were going on the path to find the robo, but his stalker distracted him.
"Want some? Go get some!"
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 12 2013 11:58 GMT
#996
On July 12 2013 20:57 HugzForL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:55 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:52 HugzForL wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Obviously it needs to be scouted and you need to add more bunkers, possibly widow mines, buying time until medivacs are out also can really help you.



Man he scouted it, he knew something was up. And you just won't buy enough time for medivac, unless the protoss just falls asleep in front of your base. And more bunker? Remember Naniwa a-clicked into Lucifron's 5 bunkers. Still went through.

someone is mad. 1. it wasn't a click. 2. it doesn't help you if you have more bunkers than units. and 3. what novemberstorm said.


Yeah clearly i am mad, lol. It's just funny how you guys are hypocrites, this all-in is so easy to perform while being so hard to defend. Yeah yeah, the obvious better player was the protoss right there. He did some amazing ff's, so hard!

At least you're up front about the balance whining. That's better than most lol

FYI, hypocrite is not the right word here. Don't know what you mean to use, but it's not hypocrite.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 12 2013 11:59 GMT
#997
On July 12 2013 20:45 Abominous wrote:
We need a thread for manner Nexus


There you go:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=421056
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 12:01:09
July 12 2013 11:59 GMT
#998
On July 12 2013 20:52 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:51 scypio wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:50 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Scout it. If you have no idea what's going on in any way, shape, or form, you're pretty much dead as a doornail.


Supernova new that it was coming, that's why he built three bunkers. Just quit the "scout anything to win talk", it does not work that way.


He needs more marines and more bunkers. If he scouts it, he can cut those missile turrets and some SCVs for more of that. Then you hold on until you have medivacs´stim, then you win.


That's the hard part, as Avenge did a great job at denying scouting. Scanning anything is a gamble and having pre-pulled scvs all the time will just put you to far behind in the eco... maybe build a sensor tower
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 12 2013 11:59 GMT
#999
On July 12 2013 20:58 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:57 HugzForL wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:55 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:52 HugzForL wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Obviously it needs to be scouted and you need to add more bunkers, possibly widow mines, buying time until medivacs are out also can really help you.



Man he scouted it, he knew something was up. And you just won't buy enough time for medivac, unless the protoss just falls asleep in front of your base. And more bunker? Remember Naniwa a-clicked into Lucifron's 5 bunkers. Still went through.

someone is mad. 1. it wasn't a click. 2. it doesn't help you if you have more bunkers than units. and 3. what novemberstorm said.


Yeah clearly i am mad, lol. It's just funny how you guys are hypocrites, this all-in is so easy to perform while being so hard to defend. Yeah yeah, the obvious better player was the protoss right there. He did some amazing ff's, so hard!

At least you're up front about the balance whining. That's better than most lol

FYI, hypocrite is not the right word here. Don't know what you mean to use, but it's not hypocrite.


I believe 'easier to execute than to hold off' is accurate and not balance whine at all. There are lots of strategies in Starcraft 2 that are actually very easy to pull of compared to how much effort it takes to defend them.
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LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
July 12 2013 12:00 GMT
#1000
On July 12 2013 20:59 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 20:52 DJHelium wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:51 scypio wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:50 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 20:49 HugzForL wrote:
Can anyone tell us a way to defend this immortal allin? I'd like to know.

Scout it. If you have no idea what's going on in any way, shape, or form, you're pretty much dead as a doornail.


Supernova new that it was coming, that's why he built three bunkers. Just quit the "scout anything to win talk", it does not work that way.


He needs more marines and more bunkers. If he scouts it, he can cut those missile turrets and some SCVs for more of that. Then you hold on until you have medivacs´stim, then you win.


That's the hard part, as Genius did a great job at denying scouting. Scanning anything is a gamble and having pre-pulled scvs all the time will just put you to far behind in the eco... maybe build a sensor tower

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