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YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
July 11 2013 11:28 GMT
#1141
On July 11 2013 20:24 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:22 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:15 s3rp wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:14 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:11 YyapSsap wrote:
You can't really do anything about the coin flippy nature of SC2 due to the overwhelming reliance on "composition" as there are far too many specialist/counter units. That push only worked because of the 2 banshees and no AA after the initial engagement (this also adds to the coin flippyness due to how air units in SC2 play a far larger role starting from the early game compared to BW).

For all you Flash fans, theres always next season!

It's not randomness when Flash didn't scout well enough to realize what was going on.


Thats thing thing. Scouting is 200% more important than it was in BW because if you dont get a specific composition you lose out. In SC2, your just going to flat out die/punished severly most of the time if you have the wrong units.


But isn't that a good thing ?


No because do you like BO losses? Theres SO many things to account for. You know thinking about it.. I think most of the raging/balance whining comes from this. Losses due to compositional error which is extremely unforgiving and sad compared to losing to a player whos just better at multitasking/positioning etc. The latter is something you can accept but the former is undoubtedly much more punishing.

So you mean that the player with the best STRATEGY won a Real time STRATEGY game match? How unthinkable! Clearly a flaw in the game.


Oh wow, I didn't realise strategy means make A and B units to beat "predicted" X Y units..
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 11 2013 11:28 GMT
#1142
On July 11 2013 20:28 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:26 Ciryandor wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:25 TheDwf wrote:
Should have 6 pooled again. "He can't possibly do that again..."

Watch Calm vs Fantasy. Fantasy's used to that kind of mindgame.

That's just cruel on so many levels

Worst bw serie ever seriously.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
July 11 2013 11:29 GMT
#1143
Cool, hope it gets to Nydus stage
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 11 2013 11:29 GMT
#1144
Now he's going full-Symbol...

probably going to be much worse though
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 11 2013 11:29 GMT
#1145
This might work.....Fantasy didn't cover his base.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 11 2013 11:29 GMT
#1146
hyvaa aiming at the 100 Cheese score on his card.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
July 11 2013 11:29 GMT
#1147
haha tastosis is so funny in this series
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 11 2013 11:29 GMT
#1148
On July 11 2013 20:28 Kasaraki wrote:
This series is already kinda bad. Let's have some more Bomber awesomeness:

+ Show Spoiler [OCTBOMBER FEST] +
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This is BOMBER
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from StarTale
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sponsored by RedBull
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He's a Terran God
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and he is coolest of them all
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he fucking skydove
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and he is a kind friend to his teammates that start slumping, which is a common way to procrastinate at StarTale
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He is the guy we've been waiting for.


if you get TL+ for my old post ill gut you
The Bomber boy
MoonwalkingBird
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia22 Posts
July 11 2013 11:30 GMT
#1149
NOOOO OSL STREAM
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
July 11 2013 11:30 GMT
#1150
Fake all-in into all-in. The mindgames!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 11 2013 11:30 GMT
#1151
On July 11 2013 20:29 TheDwf wrote:
hyvaa aiming at the 100 Cheese score on his card.


They should put over 9000 there
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#1152
Should just play Hellions/Banshees against this kind of player.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#1153
Well that was just poor play and a oversight by Fantasy....
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
July 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#1154
Crap OSL stream down

Did Fantasy hold?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#1155
On July 11 2013 20:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[OSL] RO16 Day 4 WCS KR S2 2013
[image loading] (T)FanTaSy vs [image loading] (Z)hyvaa
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Whirlwind

0:00
FanTaSy spawns in the bottom right
hyvaa spawns in the bottom left

2:00
hatch first for hyvaa
CC first on the high ground for FanTaSy
pool for hyvaa
rax for FanTaSy
gas for FanTaSy
overlord scouts FanTaSy's spawning position

3:00
double gas for hyvaa
bunker in the natural for FanTaSy

4:00
another gas for FanTaSy
Roach warren for hyvaa
Factory for FanTaSy

5:00
reactor for FanTaSy
Roaches started for hyvaa
armory for FanTaSy
Starport for FanTaSy

6:00
Lair for hyvaa
2 widow mines for FanTaSy
wall finished for FanTaSy
2nd bunker for FanTaSy
scvs pulled to repair
hyvaa starts attacking
roaches try to target scvs
widow mines burrow and kill some roaches

7:00 37 vs 50
8 scvs were killed before the roaches backed off
medivac for FanTaSy
2 more widow mines come out
Roach speed for hyvaa
another gas for hyvaa
nydus network for hyvaa
hellbats for FanTaSy

8:00 58 vs 60
stim research started for FanTaSy
marauder production for FanTaSy
nydus worm started in the main of FanTaSy
hellbat drop in the main of hyvaa
2 more rax for FanTaSy

9:00 64 vs 73
roaches in the main of FanTaSy
scvs are pulled to defend int he main along with the hellbats marauder few marines and a marauder
hyvaa cleans up the widow mines
FanTasy losing units
queens arrive
hyvaa killing addons

10:00 41 vs 75
Fantasy goes for another engagement
Fantasy loses all of his add ons
Fantasy trying to start another 2 bunkers in his natural
roaches move into the natural
queens spreading creep in the main of Fantasy
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 11:32:10
July 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#1156
Tastosis are on fire today, best (most funny) cast I've heard in quite some time.
Hello
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
July 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#1157
OK who tripped on the chord?
In the rear with the gear!
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
July 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#1158
2nd zvt map win incoming for this osl! roach rush into nydus and 2 base roach bane were successful so far
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
July 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#1159
On July 11 2013 20:28 YyapSsap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:24 Assirra wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:22 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:15 s3rp wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:14 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:11 YyapSsap wrote:
You can't really do anything about the coin flippy nature of SC2 due to the overwhelming reliance on "composition" as there are far too many specialist/counter units. That push only worked because of the 2 banshees and no AA after the initial engagement (this also adds to the coin flippyness due to how air units in SC2 play a far larger role starting from the early game compared to BW).

For all you Flash fans, theres always next season!

It's not randomness when Flash didn't scout well enough to realize what was going on.


Thats thing thing. Scouting is 200% more important than it was in BW because if you dont get a specific composition you lose out. In SC2, your just going to flat out die/punished severly most of the time if you have the wrong units.


But isn't that a good thing ?


No because do you like BO losses? Theres SO many things to account for. You know thinking about it.. I think most of the raging/balance whining comes from this. Losses due to compositional error which is extremely unforgiving and sad compared to losing to a player whos just better at multitasking/positioning etc. The latter is something you can accept but the former is undoubtedly much more punishing.

So you mean that the player with the best STRATEGY won a Real time STRATEGY game match? How unthinkable! Clearly a flaw in the game.


Oh wow, I didn't realise strategy means make A and B units to beat "predicted" X Y units..

Yup, you will always see the army throwing aircrafts at another army with insane anti air defence. Those are called tactics and are part of strategy.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
July 11 2013 11:32 GMT
#1160
woa I have never seen a contaminated building flying lol
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