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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1101
On July 11 2013 20:21 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:19 Zheryn wrote:
3:27 game, world record for fastest pro game.


Naniwa's 6 probe rush?


Well that wasn't a real game, just a throw, so I wouldn't really include it.
hundred thousand krouner
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1102
On July 11 2013 20:22 YyapSsap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:15 s3rp wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:14 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:11 YyapSsap wrote:
You can't really do anything about the coin flippy nature of SC2 due to the overwhelming reliance on "composition" as there are far too many specialist/counter units. That push only worked because of the 2 banshees and no AA after the initial engagement (this also adds to the coin flippyness due to how air units in SC2 play a far larger role starting from the early game compared to BW).

For all you Flash fans, theres always next season!

It's not randomness when Flash didn't scout well enough to realize what was going on.


Thats thing thing. Scouting is 200% more important than it was in BW because if you dont get a specific composition you lose out. In SC2, your just going to flat out die/punished severly most of the time if you have the wrong units.


But isn't that a good thing ?


No because do you like BO losses? Theres SO many things to account for. You know thinking about it.. I think most of the raging/balance whining comes from this. Losses due to compositional error which is extremely unforgiving and sad compared to losing to a player whos just better at multitasking/positioning etc. The latter is something you can accept but the former is undoubtedly much more punishing.

So you mean that the player with the best STRATEGY won a Real time STRATEGY game match? How unthinkable! Clearly a flaw in the game.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1103
would be overjoyed if hyvaa does it again
this is a quote
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1104
wtf its game 2 already?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1105
On July 11 2013 20:22 YyapSsap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:15 s3rp wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:14 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:11 YyapSsap wrote:
You can't really do anything about the coin flippy nature of SC2 due to the overwhelming reliance on "composition" as there are far too many specialist/counter units. That push only worked because of the 2 banshees and no AA after the initial engagement (this also adds to the coin flippyness due to how air units in SC2 play a far larger role starting from the early game compared to BW).

For all you Flash fans, theres always next season!

It's not randomness when Flash didn't scout well enough to realize what was going on.


Thats thing thing. Scouting is 200% more important than it was in BW because if you dont get a specific composition you lose out. In SC2, your just going to flat out die/punished severly most of the time if you have the wrong units.


But isn't that a good thing ?


No because do you like BO losses? Theres SO many things to account for. You know thinking about it.. I think most of the raging/balance whining comes from this. Losses due to compositional error which is extremely unforgiving and sad compared to losing to a player whos just better at multitasking/positioning etc. The latter is something you can accept but the former is undoubtedly much more punishing.


I think that scouting is just another part of being good at Sc2 though. There are so many ways to infer knowledge and piece together the opponent's strategy.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1106
On July 11 2013 20:23 Big-t wrote:
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On July 11 2013 20:22 TheDwf wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:21 Big-t wrote:
Am I the only one who builds 1-2 more drones, after placing down the 6 pool?

Yes, because it defeats the purpose of the opening?


But when hyvvas pool finished he had 200 mins, I think you can squeeze out 1-2 drones to make the 6 pool stronger...

The banked minerals are for extra lings (usually you get 10 with an extractor trick).
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1107
On July 11 2013 20:24 ilikeredheads wrote:
wtf its game 2 already?

game 1 was just over 3 minutes long
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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1108
Oh god SadZenith games before he transformed, Jesus Christ hahahaha
1ns4n3
Profile Joined September 2011
117 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1109
Where can I find a music list for OSL guys, pelase ?
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 11 2013 11:24 GMT
#1110
guys dont forget the failed cannonrush last mlg when the guy forgot the forge ;D
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#1111
Worst game/funniest is Idra vs Nony with the accidental cc cancel -> gg
Yhamm is the god of predictions
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#1112
On July 11 2013 20:24 Gorlin wrote:
Oh god SadZenith games before he transformed, Jesus Christ hahahaha

that was terrible lol
Moderatorlickypiddy
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#1113
Naniwa's probe rush was much worse and much more embarrassing, but that game was still awful.

Also 2010 games, can't forget how bad those were in general.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#1114
Should have 6 pooled again. "He can't possibly do that again..."
Napoleon53
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark167 Posts
July 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#1115
On July 11 2013 20:22 DJHelium wrote:
A 12 drone rush game has to be the quickest in SC2 pro gamer history! I don't know any specific games though

I remember Morrow once did that on steppes of war. I think it was against strelok. It was in a serious tournament, and Morrow pulled it off.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
July 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#1116
On July 11 2013 20:24 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:22 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:15 s3rp wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:14 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:11 YyapSsap wrote:
You can't really do anything about the coin flippy nature of SC2 due to the overwhelming reliance on "composition" as there are far too many specialist/counter units. That push only worked because of the 2 banshees and no AA after the initial engagement (this also adds to the coin flippyness due to how air units in SC2 play a far larger role starting from the early game compared to BW).

For all you Flash fans, theres always next season!

It's not randomness when Flash didn't scout well enough to realize what was going on.


Thats thing thing. Scouting is 200% more important than it was in BW because if you dont get a specific composition you lose out. In SC2, your just going to flat out die/punished severly most of the time if you have the wrong units.


But isn't that a good thing ?


No because do you like BO losses? Theres SO many things to account for. You know thinking about it.. I think most of the raging/balance whining comes from this. Losses due to compositional error which is extremely unforgiving and sad compared to losing to a player whos just better at multitasking/positioning etc. The latter is something you can accept but the former is undoubtedly much more punishing.

So you mean that the player with the best STRATEGY won a Real time STRATEGY game match? How unthinkable! Clearly a flaw in the game.


i agree with assirra it was really good strategy .. and im a flash fanboy
this is a quote
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 11:26:43
July 11 2013 11:25 GMT
#1117
Vampire vs. SuHoSin is still one of the worst series in SC2

By worst I mean hilarious, though.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
July 11 2013 11:26 GMT
#1118
On July 11 2013 20:23 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:21 Big-t wrote:
Am I the only one who builds 1-2 more drones, after placing down the 6 pool?


You can (I do it too) because you have a better "follow up" (typically double extractor trick to get to 12/10 and even get an overlord)

But I guess that, as Tastosis explained, the goal was to pull 3 drones to prevent a full wall-in to be made

Edit : If you drone even once, and take 3 drones to pull, you won't have 150 minerals when the pool pops.


Thanks for the edit, it answers my question^^
monchi | IdrA | Flash
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
July 11 2013 11:26 GMT
#1119
On July 11 2013 20:25 Napoleon53 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:22 DJHelium wrote:
A 12 drone rush game has to be the quickest in SC2 pro gamer history! I don't know any specific games though

I remember Morrow once did that on steppes of war. I think it was against strelok. It was in a serious tournament, and Morrow pulled it off.


omg steppes of war ... this map was better than bloodbath ^_^
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
July 11 2013 11:26 GMT
#1120
2 bases banebust, roach bane bust incoming
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