EPTOn June 27 2013 21:49 Vertitto wrote:
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THELEHGOTERRAN
United States1837 Posts
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Nauseam
Sweden191 Posts
On June 27 2013 21:45 TheDwf wrote: I am not "stirring up animosity," I am just tired of reading that "Protoss can't harass" or other variants of the same cliché when there are countless examples of Zealots raids winning games by themselves in TvP. If you don't understand that P has the hardest time and have to commit the most to harass of all races then maybe you should reconsider that statement one more time. The zealot raids in this game should have done close to zero damage. Bomber just defended poorly and never replaced the SCVs. TWO zealots (yes, TWO) more or less killed all SCVs on Bombers natural. That should never happen. | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On June 27 2013 21:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Sickening that you may have to leave something behind to defend. Not like protoss has to leave stalkers on the edge of their base, observers to spot the drops and a purely anti ground army at the front. Sickening. That's not what Dwf's saying. He saying that the harrassment options that Protoss have are strong and viable, but he's tired of people acting like they aren't and complaining instead of trying them. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
There is no middle ground with protoss harassment, you can't just warp in two zealots randomly and expect them to do anything. You have to pull your opponent out of position and that means threatening something. Which is pretty hard to do when your opponent has map control until you have enough of a standing army. => you either have to be crazy aggressive + multitasking with your harassment like Rain in this game or as HerO often does which means committing to it or you just don't do it. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
On June 27 2013 21:48 TheDwf wrote: I guess the difference is that Terran players don't pretend drops can't achieve anything. Protend? So doesnt protoss, its obvious zealot harass is strong but its also obvious, bear with me mind To block the protoss harassment compare it to block a terran harassment HUGE difference, even if protoss leavs units against medivac harass that force can MELT easy Is it hard to have 5marins in your base, you see the warpprism and just nuke it before units gets dropped? | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
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On June 27 2013 21:51 Foxxan wrote: Protend? So doesnt protoss, its obvious zealot harass is strong but its also obvious, bear with me mind To block the protoss harassment compare it to block a terran harassment HUGE difference, even if protoss leavs units against medivac harass that force can MELT easy Is it hard to have 5marins in your base, you see the warpprism and just nuke it before units gets dropped? Sounds like trying to all-in with Zerg. If its scouted in time it's hopeless (in PvZ). Yet it's still a high possibility to lose vs toss allins as zerg even when you scout it. All races has strengths / weaknessess | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
On June 27 2013 21:51 Foxxan wrote: Protend? So doesnt protoss, its obvious zealot harass is strong but its also obvious, bear with me mind To block the protoss harassment compare it to block a terran harassment HUGE difference, even if protoss leavs units against medivac harass that force can MELT easy Is it hard to have 5marins in your base, you see the warpprism and just nuke it before units gets dropped? Erm, a templar or two in the base and open warpgates shut down drops pretty well. Feedback the medivac, storm the units that drop out, warp in zealots to clean up the mess, done. The problem is drops that come before you can afford templars in each base. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On June 27 2013 21:51 AgentW wrote: That's not what Dwf's saying. He saying that the harrassment options that Protoss have are strong and viable, but he's tired of people acting like they aren't and complaining instead of trying them. +1 This guy gets it. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On June 27 2013 21:53 DrPandaPhD wrote: Sounds like trying to all-in with Zerg. If its scouted in time it's hopeless (in PvZ). Yet it's still a high possibility to lose vs toss allins as zerg even when you scout it. All races has strengths / weaknessess When I play zerg it doesn't have any strengths. Same with terran and protoss actually... | ||
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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United States6795 Posts
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Norway16838 Posts
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