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On June 27 2013 21:41 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:40 Biane wrote: i want to say storms imba but bomber never replenished those scv's he lost..... It was a decision. Remaking SCVs = less units = no timing = Protoss keeps developing. Yeah, the first clue was no early fourth despite hiding a third. Second clue was not remaking SCVs. Third clue was pulling the remaining SCVs.
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On June 27 2013 21:41 c0ldfusion wrote:Rain was the favorite by a sizable margin.
Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rain 79.92% 51.71% 28.21% 20.08% 0.00% Bomber 78.46% 48.29% 30.17% 21.54% 0.00% KeeN 21.11% 0.00% 21.11% 29.97% 48.91% Hurricane 20.51% 0.00% 20.51% 28.40% 51.09% Estimated by Aligulac. Modify. statistically nope...
Edit: i mean, it was not as big as you make it out to be.
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On June 27 2013 21:41 Swisslink wrote: Bomber Defense was HORRIBLE, how can he lose so many SCV's when he even sees the Zealots running into his natural? That's just bad, sorry. He would have been miles ahead if he defended that harass properly. Welcome to TvP in which you have to be on the map with your main army to pressure, which leaves you weak to counter-harass.
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On June 27 2013 21:39 TheDwf wrote: Oh look, Protoss' harass can actually win games on its own! I don't get why you are continually trying to stir up animosity between you and protoss players- it's pretty established that protoss has the hardest time harassing out of all 3 races in the midgame, thanks to the resources you have to commit. Probably just angry that the terrans lost to Rain
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Awesome by Rain... winning without even seeing that ninja base.
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I wonder if Rain can win with this style agaisnt Terrans that defend their bases. Keen and Bomber lost so many workers.
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On June 27 2013 21:42 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:39 TheDwf wrote: Oh look, Protoss' harass can actually win games on its own! I don't get why you are continually trying to stir up animosity between you and protoss players- it's pretty established that protoss has the hardest time harassing out of all 3 races in the midgame, thanks to the resources you have to commit. Probably just angry that the terrans lost to Rain
He's just sad not 100% of terrans advance.
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On June 27 2013 21:42 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:41 Swisslink wrote: Bomber Defense was HORRIBLE, how can he lose so many SCV's when he even sees the Zealots running into his natural? That's just bad, sorry. He would have been miles ahead if he defended that harass properly. Welcome to TvP in which you have to be on the map with your main army to pressure, which leaves you weak to counter-harass.
Unless you have a bunker with a few marines?
I'm amazed that the guy who's race will have at least 75% passing rate in OSL complains so much. Should we get some cheese with your whine?
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On June 27 2013 21:42 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:39 TheDwf wrote: Oh look, Protoss' harass can actually win games on its own! I don't get why you are continually trying to stir up animosity between you and protoss players- it's pretty established that protoss has the hardest time harassing out of all 3 races in the midgame, thanks to the resources you have to commit. Probably just angry that the terrans lost to Rain
May-be it should not be "established"...
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TheMarine got dat wedding band on his hand
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On June 27 2013 21:41 c0ldfusion wrote:Rain was the favorite by a sizable margin. but, but... Bomber was MY favorite by an infinite margin =/
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On June 27 2013 21:42 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:39 TheDwf wrote: Oh look, Protoss' harass can actually win games on its own! I don't get why you are continually trying to stir up animosity between you and protoss players- it's pretty established that protoss has the hardest time harassing out of all 3 races in the midgame, thanks to the resources you have to commit. Probably just angry that the terrans lost to Rain He's angry that only 87.5% of terrans will/can advance.
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On June 27 2013 21:42 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:41 c0ldfusion wrote:On June 27 2013 21:40 Schelim wrote: noooo Rainman beats Bomberman =/ Rain was the favorite by a sizable margin. Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rain 79.92% 51.71% 28.21% 20.08% 0.00% Bomber 78.46% 48.29% 30.17% 21.54% 0.00% KeeN 21.11% 0.00% 21.11% 29.97% 48.91% Hurricane 20.51% 0.00% 20.51% 28.40% 51.09% Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.statistically nope... Edit: i mean, it was not as big as you make it out to be. Aligulac underestimates all KeSPA player.
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On June 27 2013 21:42 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:39 TheDwf wrote: Oh look, Protoss' harass can actually win games on its own! I don't get why you are continually trying to stir up animosity between you and protoss players- it's pretty established that protoss has the hardest time harassing out of all 3 races in the midgame, thanks to the resources you have to commit. Probably just angry that the terrans lost to Rain How is it hard to place a pylon and warp in? Resources lost is basically the same. Losing a drop as terran can spiral outta control. TT
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On June 27 2013 21:41 FeyFey wrote: I wish ghosts could do what HTs can or atleast not cost more and need the double amount of action for the same effect. On the other hand I guess Protoss would love to have range 10 and scan on their feedback haha.
Ghosts can cloak and deal massive instant damage with EMP? Also they have a decent attack, snipe and don't have a movement speed like a turtle.
If I had range 10 and scan with my feedbacks I would never lose to a Terran if I get templar tech up. Next patch maybe? ^^
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On June 27 2013 21:42 xAdra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:39 TheDwf wrote: Oh look, Protoss' harass can actually win games on its own! I don't get why you are continually trying to stir up animosity between you and protoss players- it's pretty established that protoss has the hardest time harassing out of all 3 races in the midgame, thanks to the resources you have to commit. Probably just angry that the terrans lost to Rain I am not "stirring up animosity," I am just tired of reading that "Protoss can't harass" or other variants of the same cliché when there are countless examples of Zealots raids winning games by themselves in TvP.
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On June 27 2013 21:41 RKC wrote: Did Rain even know about the hidden ninja expo? Didn't matter anyway. What a boss!
Bombers plan seems to have been faking an 2 base allin with 3 base power. And the plan went perfect for him, except those pesky lil DTs killing way to many workers. He gave it a go anyway and Rain held.
No idea Terrans seem to give up as soon as storm is done lately and concentrate only on what happens before.
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On June 27 2013 21:42 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 21:41 Swisslink wrote: Bomber Defense was HORRIBLE, how can he lose so many SCV's when he even sees the Zealots running into his natural? That's just bad, sorry. He would have been miles ahead if he defended that harass properly. Welcome to TvP in which you have to be on the map with your main army to pressure, which leaves you weak to counter-harass.
I think he just didn't pay attention, tbh. First you saw some Zealots running toward his naturals, while some marines were running toward his main army. And a few seconds later you still see all those Zealots killing all the SCV's, while Bomber was rallying his army somewhere else.
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