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below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
June 23 2013 23:15 GMT
#3081
when can I rewatch this, missed the last couple of series.
Scumi
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany108 Posts
June 23 2013 23:25 GMT
#3082
On June 24 2013 07:45 Faruko wrote:
Amazing TLO interview

[image loading]


Just spit out my toothpaste. :D
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 23 2013 23:29 GMT
#3083
Dude, I freaking love Snute and Liquid. GOOD JOB LIQUID! ^_^
darkness overpowering
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
June 23 2013 23:37 GMT
#3084
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
June 23 2013 23:48 GMT
#3085
TLO getting closer to that champion ship
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
June 23 2013 23:51 GMT
#3086
On June 24 2013 08:37 RagequitBM wrote:
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.

it's what I love about TL. accomplishment > money =)
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 00:16:27
June 23 2013 23:55 GMT
#3087
On June 24 2013 08:51 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 08:37 RagequitBM wrote:
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.

it's what I love about TL. accomplishment > money =)


There's not really much difference. Accomplishment and money are closely related, win more, and you get more money. Very rarely do you trade one for the other. You either get both, or you have trouble getting either one
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
June 23 2013 23:58 GMT
#3088
Congratz Liquid Team !
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
June 24 2013 00:01 GMT
#3089
Damn TLO doing so good lately !! Good for him

SICK
Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
June 24 2013 00:02 GMT
#3090
All Liquid top 3. Grats
@Diaresta Huk//Jaedong//Taeja ★EGTL★ ♥Stephano♥ | "Agent 3154, welcome back."
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
June 24 2013 00:11 GMT
#3091
On June 24 2013 08:51 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 08:37 RagequitBM wrote:
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.

it's what I love about TL. accomplishment > money =)

lmao what
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
June 24 2013 00:11 GMT
#3092
Wow. Absolutely amazing showing by Liquid in this.

Great job, guys!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
June 24 2013 00:15 GMT
#3093
On June 24 2013 09:11 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 08:51 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:37 RagequitBM wrote:
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.

it's what I love about TL. accomplishment > money =)

lmao what

i should clarify. TL works hard to develop players, trying to make them improve and better. results simply follow suit after the hard work
vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
June 24 2013 00:15 GMT
#3094
proud day to be a liquid fan
NA player, go KT Flash, ST Life( ;( ) , IMMvp, EGJD, CMStorm Polt, SKT Rain, KT Zest, Bisu, RootherO, Stats and teamliqiud
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 24 2013 00:17 GMT
#3095
On June 24 2013 09:15 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 09:11 StyLeD wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:51 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:37 RagequitBM wrote:
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.

it's what I love about TL. accomplishment > money =)

lmao what

i should clarify. TL works hard to develop players, trying to make them improve and better. results simply follow suit after the hard work


Most good teams do this. I don't think it's that uncommon.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 24 2013 00:33 GMT
#3096
On June 24 2013 08:55 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 08:51 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:37 RagequitBM wrote:
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.

it's what I love about TL. accomplishment > money =)


There's not really much difference. Accomplishment and money are closely related, win more, and you get more money. Very rarely do you trade one for the other. You either get both, or you have trouble getting either one

i think he's refering to EG
get high wages but not much of accomplishment
-Terran-
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
June 24 2013 00:48 GMT
#3097
On June 24 2013 09:33 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 08:55 Bagration wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:51 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:37 RagequitBM wrote:
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.

it's what I love about TL. accomplishment > money =)


There's not really much difference. Accomplishment and money are closely related, win more, and you get more money. Very rarely do you trade one for the other. You either get both, or you have trouble getting either one

i think he's refering to EG
get high wages but not much of accomplishment


Wut?

Every single one of their players has been an absolute beast at one time or another, or entered the team as an incredible personality in eSports that of course any team would pick up.

IdrA is one of the most successful foreigners in history, Incontrol (not going to try and do the capitalization right) was very consistently high placed in early MLGs, etc., and is captain of the team (the captain is often not the best player, or even a middle of the pack player on a team, but the best leader as in this case). HuK had his time of foreign dominance, Puma too, JaeDong is raping face right now in Proleague and individual tournaments, etc. etc. etc.

Let's not even get into Stephano. All I will say about that is that he is the best foreigner ever in terms of results. Period. Just by results, it is objectively true.

Moreover, what about Suppy and Xenocider? They picked them up as complete unknowns. Now, Suppy is doing really well internationally and Xenocider has yet to be on the team for more than a month so there's not much to say about him other than the fact that EG does NOT just pick up personalities.

Oz, aLive, JYP, Revival, and ThorZain continue to do very well for themselves in Proleague and otherwise, and none of them were or are huge personalities when EG picked them up and kept them. They are simply very solid players.

I'm not a huge fan of EG, but to say they don't push for results is bullshit. Sure, they release a lot of media and one or two of their players are mostly focused on that media, but that doesn't mean results don't come number one. The fact that they just opened up a media production house and team house separately in San Fran evidences this. Incontrol and the managers will stay in the media house mostly from what he's said, and the rest of EG while in the States will practice in the team house.

The money-making part of EG (the smaller part by far, especially when it concerns their players under contract) allows the competitive part to perform and go to tournaments, and also they allow the rest of the team to aquire and keep players with good salary. Ain't shit wrong with that.
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Cheno
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark70 Posts
June 24 2013 00:52 GMT
#3098
z, aLive, JYP, Revival, and ThorZain continue to do very well for themselves in Proleague and otherwise, and none of them were or are huge personalities when EG picked them up and kept them.


What what... Thorzain WERE huge when EG picked him up.... -_-
Information is power!
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 01:08:40
June 24 2013 00:56 GMT
#3099
On June 24 2013 09:48 Nuclease wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 09:33 Vertical wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:55 Bagration wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:51 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On June 24 2013 08:37 RagequitBM wrote:
TLO really shows that with good dedication you can become amazing. He wasn't a very good player before, but after starting, and following his schedule he's become a fantastic Zerg. Really inspiring.

it's what I love about TL. accomplishment > money =)


There's not really much difference. Accomplishment and money are closely related, win more, and you get more money. Very rarely do you trade one for the other. You either get both, or you have trouble getting either one

i think he's refering to EG
get high wages but not much of accomplishment


Wut?

Every single one of their players has been an absolute beast at one time or another, or entered the team as an incredible personality in eSports that of course any team would pick up.

IdrA is one of the most successful foreigners in history, Incontrol (not going to try and do the capitalization right) was very consistently high placed in early MLGs, etc., and is captain of the team (the captain is often not the best player, or even a middle of the pack player on a team, but the best leader as in this case). HuK had his time of foreign dominance, Puma too, JaeDong is raping face right now in Proleague and individual tournaments, etc. etc. etc.

Let's not even get into Stephano. All I will say about that is that he is the best foreigner ever in terms of results. Period. Just by results, it is objectively true.

Moreover, what about Suppy and Xenocider? They picked them up as complete unknowns. Now, Suppy is doing really well internationally and Xenocider has yet to be on the team for more than a month so there's not much to say about him other than the fact that EG does NOT just pick up personalities.

Oz, aLive, JYP, Revival, and ThorZain continue to do very well for themselves in Proleague and otherwise, and none of them were or are huge personalities when EG picked them up and kept them. They are simply very solid players.

I'm not a huge fan of EG, but to say they don't push for results is bullshit. Sure, they release a lot of media and one or two of their players are mostly focused on that media, but that doesn't mean results don't come number one. The fact that they just opened up a media production house and team house separately in San Fran evidences this. Incontrol and the managers will stay in the media house mostly from what he's said, and the rest of EG while in the States will practice in the team house.

The money-making part of EG (the smaller part by far, especially when it concerns their players under contract) allows the competitive part to perform and go to tournaments, and also they allow the rest of the team to aquire and keep players with good salary. Ain't shit wrong with that.

i dont even read your super long post making this reply
im just trying to decipher the original poster what he's meant by "accomplishment > money"
anyway most EG player got caught in EG's curse, maybe thats what he means
only stephano retains his champion status, but even he was declining after joining EG
he never won any 1st place aside WCS Europe after joins EG (Lone Star Clash is not premier, so i dunno what u think about it)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stephano

comparing result in top 3 minimal at 2013
3rd place : HSCVII - TLO
2nd place : HSCVII - Snute
1st Place : HSCVII - Taeja, WCSAM - HerO

3rd place : -
2nd place : Dreamhack Summer - Jaedong, WCS AM - Revival, WCS EU - Stephano
1st place : -

EG has more players, more koreans, better foreigners
but less result

im not getting into 2012 yet (most stephano's throphy is during his stint at millenium)
-Terran-
Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
June 24 2013 01:05 GMT
#3100
Awesome work Liquid!
Day9 Made Me Do It
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