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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
June 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#1881
mana with bad decision making... how can you still lose after killing that many roaches?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
June 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#1882
Solid play by stephano.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:50:55
June 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#1883
Wow absolutely crushing victory in G2. Such smart map awareness and tactics from Stephano. MaNa though, played soso sloppy.
Red and yellow are all I see
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1884
On June 23 2013 04:49 Grumbels wrote:
mana with bad decision making... how can you still lose after killing that many roaches?

That was such a confusing game.. wtf.
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SyDe
Profile Joined January 2011
France355 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1885
Stephano playing really well!
Life :(
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1886
losing 30 roaches for free no big deal...
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1887
impressive series by Stephano. i hope him vs Taeja is gonna be good.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1888
On June 23 2013 04:50 wildstyle1337 wrote:
losing 30 roaches for free no big deal...

Yeah, he lost them for free.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1889
On June 23 2013 04:49 Grumbels wrote:
mana with bad decision making... how can you still lose after killing that many roaches?


because they are very cheap and dont mean anything to a 3+ base zerg....
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1890
Pretty sure Stephano spawns 2 roaches/hydras for each larvae.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1891
gratz stephano
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1892
On June 23 2013 04:50 wildstyle1337 wrote:
losing 30 roaches for free no big deal...


Was not completely for free and it was not 30 roaches. He did a lot of damage at the second base meanwhile and they were able to fight a little bit as well killing some units in MaNas army although not cost effectively.
Red and yellow are all I see
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1893
On June 23 2013 04:50 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:49 Grumbels wrote:
mana with bad decision making... how can you still lose after killing that many roaches?


because they are very cheap and dont mean anything to a 3+ base zerg....


Not precisely true, but the division of roaches by stephano made it so Mana couldn't ignore the pressure at the natural which in turn delayed his opportunity to return aggression
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1894
Missed the Stephano - Mana games. Was it just another case of Stephanoach too stronk?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 22 2013 19:52 GMT
#1895
On June 23 2013 04:51 LuckyMacro wrote:
Pretty sure Stephano spawns 2 roaches/hydras for each larvae.

Seriously his macro was impressive this game. He lost a ton of roaches and 1 minute later he was 157/200 against 97/200.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#1896
On June 23 2013 04:51 revel8 wrote:
Missed the Stephano - Mana games. Was it just another case of Stephanoach too stronk?


No first game was ultra passive swarmhost
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mongoose22
Profile Joined July 2012
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:54:51
June 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#1897
On June 23 2013 04:43 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:42 mongoose22 wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:38 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:34 Bahajinbo wrote:
Stephanos ZvP style is so freaking boring... Just camp camp camp with SH, spines, spores and vipers.
Even his roach max was way more entertaining to watch.


It has nothing to do with Stephano. SH vs protoss is usually this way. Sucks tbh, but blizz is 'happy' with SH.


David Kim specifically stated that he was not a fan of passive swarm host use. If Stephano's SH style gets popular you can bank on Blizzard making some changes.

Sure, they will make another passive unit for P and T that could counter static SH, thats how they balance this game...


That wouldn't make any sense. Making new units is way more expensive than balancing the current units; there's virtually no chance Blizzard would introduce new units until the next expansion. Besides, the problem at that point is more that the swarm host doesn't fit David's vision of a more raider-type unit that can be repositioned constantly. I would expect that Blizzard reduces their burrow time and makes up for that by also reducing the lifespan of the locusts. This would allow the swarm hosts to move around faster but would reduce the range of the locusts and allow for closer enemy engagements. This would be particularly effective if they kept the cooldown higher, so that even with the upgrade there's a hole between the locusts' spawn times. So many things Blizzard could do without resorting to making a new unit.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:54:37
June 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#1898
On June 23 2013 04:51 revel8 wrote:
Missed the Stephano - Mana games. Was it just another case of Stephanoach too stronk?


First game-MaNa went passive 3 base to start, Stephano went SH and did the same. MaNa denied the 4th of Stephano and at one stage took 5 bases vs 3. However Stephano cost efficiency was sick and he was eventually able to take the 4th and keep MaNa to 4. MaNa went sky toss. SH, Hydra, corruptor, viper control too good.

Game 2, Stephano denies 3rd of Mana twice, delays it so long Mana has to go all in with immortal, sentry stalker, MSC. Hydra roach defends the all in.
Red and yellow are all I see
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 22 2013 19:54 GMT
#1899
Why do you guys think that the best foreigners are all Zergs ? is there a reason too ? Seems in KR the situation its a little more balanced, with Innovation being such a beast and SoulKey and sOs really close, all the 3 being different races too

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 19:54 GMT
#1900
hmm, ZvZ or break music... roach/infestor vs roach/infestor?

break music it is
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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