• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:09
CEST 02:09
KST 09:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Do we have a pimpest plays list? AI Question ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1704 users

[HSC VII] Day 3 - Page 95

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 133 Next
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
June 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#1881
mana with bad decision making... how can you still lose after killing that many roaches?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
June 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#1882
Solid play by stephano.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:50:55
June 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#1883
Wow absolutely crushing victory in G2. Such smart map awareness and tactics from Stephano. MaNa though, played soso sloppy.
Red and yellow are all I see
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1884
On June 23 2013 04:49 Grumbels wrote:
mana with bad decision making... how can you still lose after killing that many roaches?

That was such a confusing game.. wtf.
Moderator
SyDe
Profile Joined January 2011
France355 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1885
Stephano playing really well!
Life :(
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1886
losing 30 roaches for free no big deal...
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1887
impressive series by Stephano. i hope him vs Taeja is gonna be good.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1888
On June 23 2013 04:50 wildstyle1337 wrote:
losing 30 roaches for free no big deal...

Yeah, he lost them for free.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
June 22 2013 19:50 GMT
#1889
On June 23 2013 04:49 Grumbels wrote:
mana with bad decision making... how can you still lose after killing that many roaches?


because they are very cheap and dont mean anything to a 3+ base zerg....
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1890
Pretty sure Stephano spawns 2 roaches/hydras for each larvae.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1891
gratz stephano
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1892
On June 23 2013 04:50 wildstyle1337 wrote:
losing 30 roaches for free no big deal...


Was not completely for free and it was not 30 roaches. He did a lot of damage at the second base meanwhile and they were able to fight a little bit as well killing some units in MaNas army although not cost effectively.
Red and yellow are all I see
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1893
On June 23 2013 04:50 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:49 Grumbels wrote:
mana with bad decision making... how can you still lose after killing that many roaches?


because they are very cheap and dont mean anything to a 3+ base zerg....


Not precisely true, but the division of roaches by stephano made it so Mana couldn't ignore the pressure at the natural which in turn delayed his opportunity to return aggression
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#1894
Missed the Stephano - Mana games. Was it just another case of Stephanoach too stronk?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 22 2013 19:52 GMT
#1895
On June 23 2013 04:51 LuckyMacro wrote:
Pretty sure Stephano spawns 2 roaches/hydras for each larvae.

Seriously his macro was impressive this game. He lost a ton of roaches and 1 minute later he was 157/200 against 97/200.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#1896
On June 23 2013 04:51 revel8 wrote:
Missed the Stephano - Mana games. Was it just another case of Stephanoach too stronk?


No first game was ultra passive swarmhost
Neosteel Enthusiast
mongoose22
Profile Joined July 2012
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:54:51
June 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#1897
On June 23 2013 04:43 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:42 mongoose22 wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:38 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:34 Bahajinbo wrote:
Stephanos ZvP style is so freaking boring... Just camp camp camp with SH, spines, spores and vipers.
Even his roach max was way more entertaining to watch.


It has nothing to do with Stephano. SH vs protoss is usually this way. Sucks tbh, but blizz is 'happy' with SH.


David Kim specifically stated that he was not a fan of passive swarm host use. If Stephano's SH style gets popular you can bank on Blizzard making some changes.

Sure, they will make another passive unit for P and T that could counter static SH, thats how they balance this game...


That wouldn't make any sense. Making new units is way more expensive than balancing the current units; there's virtually no chance Blizzard would introduce new units until the next expansion. Besides, the problem at that point is more that the swarm host doesn't fit David's vision of a more raider-type unit that can be repositioned constantly. I would expect that Blizzard reduces their burrow time and makes up for that by also reducing the lifespan of the locusts. This would allow the swarm hosts to move around faster but would reduce the range of the locusts and allow for closer enemy engagements. This would be particularly effective if they kept the cooldown higher, so that even with the upgrade there's a hole between the locusts' spawn times. So many things Blizzard could do without resorting to making a new unit.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:54:37
June 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#1898
On June 23 2013 04:51 revel8 wrote:
Missed the Stephano - Mana games. Was it just another case of Stephanoach too stronk?


First game-MaNa went passive 3 base to start, Stephano went SH and did the same. MaNa denied the 4th of Stephano and at one stage took 5 bases vs 3. However Stephano cost efficiency was sick and he was eventually able to take the 4th and keep MaNa to 4. MaNa went sky toss. SH, Hydra, corruptor, viper control too good.

Game 2, Stephano denies 3rd of Mana twice, delays it so long Mana has to go all in with immortal, sentry stalker, MSC. Hydra roach defends the all in.
Red and yellow are all I see
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 22 2013 19:54 GMT
#1899
Why do you guys think that the best foreigners are all Zergs ? is there a reason too ? Seems in KR the situation its a little more balanced, with Innovation being such a beast and SoulKey and sOs really close, all the 3 being different races too

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 19:54 GMT
#1900
hmm, ZvZ or break music... roach/infestor vs roach/infestor?

break music it is
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 133 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#80 (TLMC 22 Edition)
PiGStarcraft275
davetesta21
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft275
CosmosSc2 43
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11517
GuemChi 3716
Artosis 617
910 23
NaDa 11
Moletrap 3
Dota 2
monkeys_forever654
League of Legends
Doublelift4756
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King61
Other Games
summit1g8924
tarik_tv6212
Liquid`RaSZi1436
shahzam500
C9.Mang0486
JimRising 338
ToD155
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick707
BasetradeTV534
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream38
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 42
• musti20045 33
• Response 1
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 41
• RayReign 25
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1309
Upcoming Events
GSL
9h 21m
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
1d 9h
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
1d 10h
OSC
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Escore
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
BSL
4 days
GSL
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.