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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
June 22 2013 19:38 GMT
#1841
Lol, passive Protoss = passive opponent, regardless of race. That's just how badly designed Protoss is. If a Toss is turtling, there's really no reason to attack, FF + splash is that good in chokes. Against the other races, you can pick apart turtling easier.
I love crazymoving
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
June 22 2013 19:38 GMT
#1842
Why do they have them sitting side by side playing with Mana's in clear view too lol
JD, need I say more? :D
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
June 22 2013 19:38 GMT
#1843
On June 23 2013 04:34 Bahajinbo wrote:
Stephanos ZvP style is so freaking boring... Just camp camp camp with SH, spines, spores and vipers.
Even his roach max was way more entertaining to watch.


It has nothing to do with Stephano. SH vs protoss is usually this way. Sucks tbh, but blizz is 'happy' with SH.
Meself
Profile Joined February 2011
Estonia552 Posts
June 22 2013 19:39 GMT
#1844
Wtf, why are the players allowed to sit so they can see each other's screens? I thought they at least position the monitors at an angle if the players are sitting close to each other.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
June 22 2013 19:39 GMT
#1845
On June 23 2013 04:37 Reedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:35 blade55555 wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:34 Bahajinbo wrote:
Stephanos ZvP style is so freaking boring... Just camp camp camp with SH, spines, spores and vipers.
Even his roach max was way more entertaining to watch.


Oh man and manas playstyle was much better turtling to voidray/colossi/templar then being aggressive. So much better.


Lets just ignore the warp prism play shall we so that your argument remains relevant.


That fantastic 2 time 10 zealots warp-in with an idle warp prism. So fun to watch, so masterful...

"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 22 2013 19:39 GMT
#1846
Looks like Stephano is gonna win the whole thing. If he can beat carriers I can't see anything else stopping him.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
June 22 2013 19:39 GMT
#1847
I looved this game, such a good use of SH.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:41:04
June 22 2013 19:40 GMT
#1848
On June 23 2013 04:39 jimothyjim wrote:
Looks like Stephano is gonna win the whole thing. If he can beat carriers I can't see anything else stopping him.

ZvZ is probably going to knock-out Stephano, especially with TLO, Snute already in the Ro8, and viOlet and HyuN very likely to advance.

If you are referring to purely Stephano vs MaNa, then yes, Stephano does look better than MaNa currently.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:41:50
June 22 2013 19:40 GMT
#1849
there is no better turtle than the mass voidray+tempest-carrier+templar-archon-collosi-immortal with mass cannons everywhere. massive god-mode composition in PvZ. You can trade vs 20 zerg armies without losing one unit. It is the one and only legit faceroll comp

getting there can be a problem though :D
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
June 22 2013 19:40 GMT
#1850
Ive never actually seen Protoss defeat this turtle style swarmhost......seems Stephano has everything covered...He denies warm prism play with mass spines and small roach hydra army....Wouldnt suprise me if he went SH in every ZvP...looks very solid.....great army control as usual.....
Im just a zerg
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:42:03
June 22 2013 19:41 GMT
#1851
They could nerf static defeses, thats the only way i see thise whole "SH-Static defense will win my game while im going to prepare myself a cup of coffee" composition without taking out SH from the game

or Queens ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Scville
Profile Joined May 2013
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:41:24
June 22 2013 19:41 GMT
#1852
On June 23 2013 04:39 jimothyjim wrote:
Looks like Stephano is gonna win the whole thing. If he can beat carriers I can't see anything else stopping him.


until he plays against a korean zerg, that will make him looks like a bronze
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
June 22 2013 19:41 GMT
#1853
On June 23 2013 04:39 jimothyjim wrote:
Looks like Stephano is gonna win the whole thing. If he can beat carriers I can't see anything else stopping him.


He didn't "beat carriers". Mana just donated them for no reason.
hundred thousand krouner
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 22 2013 19:41 GMT
#1854
On June 23 2013 04:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:39 jimothyjim wrote:
Looks like Stephano is gonna win the whole thing. If he can beat carriers I can't see anything else stopping him.

ZvZ is probably going to knock-out Stephano, especially with TLO, Snute already in the Ro8, and viOlet and HyuN very likely to advance.

If you are referring to purely Stephano vs MaNa, then yes, Stephano does look better than MaNa currently.

Watch 5/8 players be Zerg in the RO8 0___o
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:43:51
June 22 2013 19:42 GMT
#1855
On June 23 2013 04:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:39 jimothyjim wrote:
Looks like Stephano is gonna win the whole thing. If he can beat carriers I can't see anything else stopping him.

ZvZ is probably going to knock-out Stephano, especially with TLO, Snute already in the Ro8, and viOlet and HyuN very likely to advance.

yeah , Stephano ZvZ is average at best by far his worst match up
mongoose22
Profile Joined July 2012
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:42:30
June 22 2013 19:42 GMT
#1856
On June 23 2013 04:38 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:34 Bahajinbo wrote:
Stephanos ZvP style is so freaking boring... Just camp camp camp with SH, spines, spores and vipers.
Even his roach max was way more entertaining to watch.


It has nothing to do with Stephano. SH vs protoss is usually this way. Sucks tbh, but blizz is 'happy' with SH.


David Kim specifically stated that he was not a fan of passive swarm host use. If Stephano's SH style gets popular you can bank on Blizzard making some changes.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 19:43 GMT
#1857
On June 23 2013 04:41 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:39 jimothyjim wrote:
Looks like Stephano is gonna win the whole thing. If he can beat carriers I can't see anything else stopping him.

ZvZ is probably going to knock-out Stephano, especially with TLO, Snute already in the Ro8, and viOlet and HyuN very likely to advance.

If you are referring to purely Stephano vs MaNa, then yes, Stephano does look better than MaNa currently.

Watch 5/8 players be Zerg in the RO8 0___o

almost certainly going to be the case, unless Thorzain goes full badass spoon. or maybe if Mana manages to advance over Stephano but i kinda doubt it.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 19:43:46
June 22 2013 19:43 GMT
#1858
On June 23 2013 04:42 mongoose22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:38 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:34 Bahajinbo wrote:
Stephanos ZvP style is so freaking boring... Just camp camp camp with SH, spines, spores and vipers.
Even his roach max was way more entertaining to watch.


It has nothing to do with Stephano. SH vs protoss is usually this way. Sucks tbh, but blizz is 'happy' with SH.


David Kim specifically stated that he was not a fan of passive swarm host use. If Stephano's SH style gets popular you can bank on Blizzard making some changes.


which is the only issue IMO, I've seen Soulkey use them offensively rather successfully in Proleague and they are great units then.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 22 2013 19:43 GMT
#1859
On June 23 2013 04:42 mongoose22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:38 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:34 Bahajinbo wrote:
Stephanos ZvP style is so freaking boring... Just camp camp camp with SH, spines, spores and vipers.
Even his roach max was way more entertaining to watch.


It has nothing to do with Stephano. SH vs protoss is usually this way. Sucks tbh, but blizz is 'happy' with SH.


David Kim specifically stated that he was not a fan of passive swarm host use. If Stephano's SH style gets popular you can bank on Blizzard making some changes.

Sure, they will make another passive unit for P and T that could counter static SH, thats how they balance this game...
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
June 22 2013 19:43 GMT
#1860
On June 23 2013 04:43 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 04:41 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:39 jimothyjim wrote:
Looks like Stephano is gonna win the whole thing. If he can beat carriers I can't see anything else stopping him.

ZvZ is probably going to knock-out Stephano, especially with TLO, Snute already in the Ro8, and viOlet and HyuN very likely to advance.

If you are referring to purely Stephano vs MaNa, then yes, Stephano does look better than MaNa currently.

Watch 5/8 players be Zerg in the RO8 0___o

almost certainly going to be the case, unless Thorzain goes full badass spoon. or maybe if Mana manages to advance over Stephano but i kinda doubt it.

MaNa can always just go for Immortal/Sentry and win like he always does against Stephano.
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