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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
June 18 2013 10:43 GMT
#1081
On June 18 2013 19:42 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:40 vovinam wrote:
just tune in...

more ppl watching gsl stream than ogn???????


Tastosis yo

not giving doa and montecristo a chance

I admit doacristo aren't as knowledgable as artosis, but they are pretty funny and have good chemistry


An in studio, with Korean in the background. That is the most important thing for me.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
June 18 2013 10:43 GMT
#1082
Dual Sight had some epic games!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
June 18 2013 10:43 GMT
#1083
On June 18 2013 19:42 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:40 vovinam wrote:
just tune in...

more ppl watching gsl stream than ogn???????


Tastosis yo

not giving doa and montecristo a chance

I admit doacristo aren't as knowledgable as artosis, but they are pretty funny and have good chemistry


Artosis carries Tastosis though.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
June 18 2013 10:43 GMT
#1084
On June 18 2013 19:42 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:40 vovinam wrote:
just tune in...

more ppl watching gsl stream than ogn???????


Tastosis yo

not giving doa and montecristo a chance

I admit doacristo aren't as knowledgable as artosis, but they are pretty funny and have good chemistry


They are good casters, but there can only be one.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
June 18 2013 10:43 GMT
#1085
On June 18 2013 19:40 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:35 Angel[BTL] wrote:
Why did they change the groups format to BO1? This for me it seems a really bad decision and more of a coin-flip. And this means that more koreans will start to migrate to european and american tournaments. I guess this is good in the long run.

-.- yes more Koreans will go overseas because they have more of a chance in Bo1 vs Flash and co. than Bo3. Totally logical. Bo1's fine, yugioh played really well and deserved the win and then Flash did his thing. I find it a lot more tense watching this than normal BoX's


ofc its much more tense
really changes the game and that's good

that way tournament isn't linear borefest and upsets can happen more
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 18 2013 10:43 GMT
#1086
On June 18 2013 19:42 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:41 Heartland wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:40 Wintex wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:39 Heartland wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:39 Wintex wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:38 Heartland wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:38 Wintex wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:36 Tobblish wrote:
Chobras translation is so nice to hear after Rize(spelling) at Dreamhack.
Man he butchered it T_T

reis you mean :D You know Korean, Tobblish? I understand it is a lot more simplified and that shit, but...


Tobblish is Swedish, isn't he?

Swedes can learn Korean, you know.


I meant that all Swedes know Korean.

I'm lost hahaha. what?


Swedes colonised Korea in the 11th century. While you Norwegians were just wandering around Britain infesting Irish people with red hair.

Today I learned this. And LOL. WE FOUND MUHRICA!

that's also why all Swedes speak Korean. the languages are actually very similar. they also invented starcraft together, which is why those two countries are the best at it.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2013 10:43 GMT
#1087
On June 18 2013 19:43 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:42 Waxangel wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:40 vovinam wrote:
just tune in...

more ppl watching gsl stream than ogn???????


Tastosis yo

not giving doa and montecristo a chance

I admit doacristo aren't as knowledgable as artosis, but they are pretty funny and have good chemistry


Artosis carries Tastosis though.


Whatever you say huk
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 10:44:37
June 18 2013 10:44 GMT
#1088
On June 18 2013 19:39 xN.07)MaK wrote:
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On June 18 2013 19:35 Dodgin wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:33 Lorning wrote:
I dont get why Yugioh still engaged after the lag. Flash knew it was coming and could think about it for atleast 5 min


tbh I think if he decided to not attack he would get tons of shit from the community for taking advantage of the lag so he felt like he had to go through with his attack. when the game dropped the tanks had already hit his units before.


He had the numbers to overrun that, but the drop made Flash plan everything out: scan to check the actual numbers, focus fire the banes, etc. Even if the tanks had attacked before, it's not the same.

Arguing that the drop benefited Yugioh because he could retreat, to me is very far from reality. He had a big army supply advantage and the surprise factor. With no drop, Flash would have no time to scan and focus fire, and maybe the game would have ended there.

Flash would've scanned regardless, Yugioh took a hit on some roaches whilst setting up to push before the drop, alerting Flash to the attack. Saying Flash needed time to plan to focus the banes is ridiculous. He'd do it instantly, it's not like it's rocket science and he's defended enough of these attacks to react pretty much instantly.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
June 18 2013 10:44 GMT
#1089
On June 18 2013 19:42 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:40 vovinam wrote:
just tune in...

more ppl watching gsl stream than ogn???????


Tastosis yo

not giving doa and montecristo a chance

I admit doacristo aren't as knowledgable as artosis, but they are pretty funny and have good chemistry


for the WCS Korea finals didn't the OGN stream have like 5-10x more viewers than the GOMTV stream throughout the whole weekend? I always watched the OGN one then but for some reason this feels different.
Yes It's a Good Day. 저는 아이유 사랑해요!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 18 2013 10:44 GMT
#1090
On June 18 2013 19:43 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:40 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:35 Angel[BTL] wrote:
Why did they change the groups format to BO1? This for me it seems a really bad decision and more of a coin-flip. And this means that more koreans will start to migrate to european and american tournaments. I guess this is good in the long run.

-.- yes more Koreans will go overseas because they have more of a chance in Bo1 vs Flash and co. than Bo3. Totally logical. Bo1's fine, yugioh played really well and deserved the win and then Flash did his thing. I find it a lot more tense watching this than normal BoX's


ofc its much more tense
really changes the game and that's good

that way tournament isn't linear borefest and upsets can happen more

Implying SC2 needs more upsets?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
June 18 2013 10:44 GMT
#1091
On June 18 2013 19:42 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:41 Heartland wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:40 Wintex wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:39 Heartland wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:39 Wintex wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:38 Heartland wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:38 Wintex wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:36 Tobblish wrote:
Chobras translation is so nice to hear after Rize(spelling) at Dreamhack.
Man he butchered it T_T

reis you mean :D You know Korean, Tobblish? I understand it is a lot more simplified and that shit, but...


Tobblish is Swedish, isn't he?

Swedes can learn Korean, you know.


I meant that all Swedes know Korean.

I'm lost hahaha. what?


Swedes colonised Korea in the 11th century. While you Norwegians were just wandering around Britain infesting Irish people with red hair.

Today I learned this. And LOL. WE FOUND MUHRICA!


Yeah. Great job..

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm sorry, I had to! I <3 'muricah
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24995 Posts
June 18 2013 10:44 GMT
#1092
On June 18 2013 19:42 p14c wrote:
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On June 18 2013 19:37 Thrillz wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:35 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Terran underpowered according to Flash


It's weird, because Terran has the least representation this season, with 8. Only INnoVation and Flash are big threats. But Terran is doing well elsewhere.

Where in Bronze league? Once the hellbats get nerfed all the n00bish Europeans Terrans who win today will get crushed. In Korea Terran already does poorly and its going to be even worse with the patch.

Will they now? The rise of the Euro Terran if anything is due more to the Speedivacs in general, widowmines in conjunction with Fungal not being fucking ridiculous.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
June 18 2013 10:44 GMT
#1093
On June 18 2013 19:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:39 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:37 Thrillz wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:35 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Terran underpowered according to Flash


It's weird, because Terran has the least representation this season, with 8. Only INnoVation and Flash are big threats. But Terran is doing well elsewhere.


Race with highest potential, but needs insane mechanical ability and spot on game-read. Ofcourse on the very best level, Terran looks strong as hell. Doesn't mean rest of the world can compete and play Terran at that level :x

Zerg has highest hypothetical potential imo. You see how much a player like Life was ahead of his peers with his trademark ling micro, how some players have creep spread that wins them games and players who barely miss an inject no matter how much pressure they're under.

We've never seen a Zerg come close to knitting all these talents that make Zergs identifiable together at once into one, terrifying Zergy specimen.

+ Show Spoiler +
SaviOr
The heart's eternal vow
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2013 10:45 GMT
#1094
On June 18 2013 19:44 Highwinds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:42 Waxangel wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:40 vovinam wrote:
just tune in...

more ppl watching gsl stream than ogn???????


Tastosis yo

not giving doa and montecristo a chance

I admit doacristo aren't as knowledgable as artosis, but they are pretty funny and have good chemistry


for the WCS Korea finals didn't the OGN stream have like 5-10x more viewers than the GOMTV stream throughout the whole weekend? I always watched the OGN one then but for some reason this feels different.


the OGN stream was featured on all the blizzard websites for the wcs season finals and the gom stream wasn't mentioned anywhere.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 18 2013 10:45 GMT
#1095
lol 3k on ogn and 16k on gomtv, even though it's ogn's tourney? that's crazy
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33335 Posts
June 18 2013 10:45 GMT
#1096
On June 18 2013 19:44 Highwinds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:42 Waxangel wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:40 vovinam wrote:
just tune in...

more ppl watching gsl stream than ogn???????


Tastosis yo

not giving doa and montecristo a chance

I admit doacristo aren't as knowledgable as artosis, but they are pretty funny and have good chemistry


for the WCS Korea finals didn't the OGN stream have like 5-10x more viewers than the GOMTV stream throughout the whole weekend? I always watched the OGN one then but for some reason this feels different.


it swung back and forth depending on when OGN's stream went down

most viewers just find the first stream that's working and don't switch if it's working
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 18 2013 10:45 GMT
#1097
Finally some Tastosis. Started watching SCII against since 1 month, and I rarely see these 2 nerds casting.
I had a good night of sleep.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24995 Posts
June 18 2013 10:46 GMT
#1098
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Savior more ahead of his time strategically than the perfect mechanical Zerg? I recall some article which said for example his Muta micro was far below subsequent Zergs who came after him
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 18 2013 10:46 GMT
#1099
On June 18 2013 19:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 19:39 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:37 Thrillz wrote:
On June 18 2013 19:35 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Terran underpowered according to Flash


It's weird, because Terran has the least representation this season, with 8. Only INnoVation and Flash are big threats. But Terran is doing well elsewhere.


Race with highest potential, but needs insane mechanical ability and spot on game-read. Ofcourse on the very best level, Terran looks strong as hell. Doesn't mean rest of the world can compete and play Terran at that level :x

Zerg has highest hypothetical potential imo. You see how much a player like Life was ahead of his peers with his trademark ling micro, how some players have creep spread that wins them games and players who barely miss an inject no matter how much pressure they're under.

We've never seen a Zerg come close to knitting all these talents that make Zergs identifiable together at once into one, terrifying Zergy specimen.


Good points, but while there are mechanically things for Zerg, Terran has no access to, Terran units are ranged and with stim eventually faster than lots of units on the field. Theoretical potential would show that you can individually move as small groups of units as possible middst battle. Terran defines maximizing damage output while minimizing damage taken. You can focus fire, spread, split, stutter only being attacked parts and you can switch targets with effectively all widow mines that are on the field to get detonations you need.

So... yeah, while Zerg has some interesting mechanial ability, I still think its less demanding and if you don't want to agree with that, I think we can agree on less rewarding for mechanical ability. Can we? A well micro'd Zerg army will never accomplish the same as a well controlled Terran army for its cost.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 18 2013 10:46 GMT
#1100
On June 18 2013 19:45 Koshi wrote:
Finally some Tastosis. Started watching SCII against since 1 month, and I rarely see these 2 nerds casting.

they pretty much only cast Code S/now OSL premier league at this point. Artosis goes to international events here and there.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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