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On June 18 2013 01:15 sc2superfan101 wrote:Huh... I guess Life has a much better chance of beating Taeja than he does of beating Jaedong: (2187) Life 0-0 TaeJa (1857)
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26.54% 3-0 0-3 4.56%
28.45% 3-1 1-3 8.80%
20.34% 3-2 2-3 11.31%
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75.33% 24.67%
Median outcome: Life 3-1 TaeJa (1954) Life 0-0 Jaedong (1837)
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16.82% 3-0 0-3 8.99%
22.60% 3-1 1-3 14.89%
20.25% 3-2 2-3 16.44%
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59.68% 40.32%
Median outcome: Life 3-2 Jaedong
Life's ZvZ just hasn't been the same as of late, compared to the 75% WLR one of the past.
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On June 18 2013 01:13 Decendos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:09 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:08 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:07 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:06 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:05 packrat386 wrote:On June 18 2013 01:03 geokilla wrote:
TLO must've wanted to lose this real badly.. Chooses Neo Planet S then goes Hatch first. You simply don't go Hatch first in Neo Planet S. yeah its such a small map relative to the rest of the pool. I dunno how maps work, but he should have vetoed it if he had a chance. this is simply false. You 15 hatch on EVERY map in zvt in Life vs T you do whatever you want, because you are just too awesome to lose it doesnt matter who the player is, unless you are plat and below you will hatch first nope. Life macro 10pools a lot. Or whatever you call that build. 15 hatch is much better at defending 2 rax than pool first because you need creep to put down a spine. still feel bad for TLO. its sad that even after 3 years a lot of T get free wins with 2 rax play which is always a very strong cheese unless you luckily find the raxes building early on.
It depends on the location of the proxy rax. In this case 10p would have had a much easier job handling 2 rax because assuming Zerg find them, he can just camp them with his lings, force a lift and a depot wall while expanding and thus remain ahead.
Or you could see it the other way around and find it sad that even after 3 years, a lot of Zergs still don't know how to handle properly 2 rax. (Not saying this is the case for TLO, usually he has better defence against 2 rax.)
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On June 18 2013 01:15 sc2superfan101 wrote:Huh... I guess Life has a much better chance of beating Taeja than he does of beating Jaedong: + Show Spoiler + (2187) Life 0-0 TaeJa (1857)
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26.54% 3-0 0-3 4.56%
28.45% 3-1 1-3 8.80%
20.34% 3-2 2-3 11.31%
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75.33% 24.67%
Median outcome: Life 3-1 TaeJa (1954) Life 0-0 Jaedong (1837)
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16.82% 3-0 0-3 8.99%
22.60% 3-1 1-3 14.89%
20.25% 3-2 2-3 16.44%
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59.68% 40.32%
Median outcome: Life 3-2 Jaedong
Wayyy higher. His ZvT is stupid.
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[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 01:12 Blix wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 01:11 Provocateur wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 01:09 Hryul wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 01:06 Fusilero wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 01:05 Hryul wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 01:03 wozzot wrote:
RIP white dudes[/QUOTE]
sjow is still in this!![/QUOTE]
The SjoW must go on  [/QUOTE]
Life will sjow him the way out[/QUOTE]
Hahahahahahahah you broke my brain that is too good
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On June 18 2013 01:14 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:12 Blix wrote:On June 18 2013 01:11 Provocateur wrote:On June 18 2013 01:09 Hryul wrote:On June 18 2013 01:06 Fusilero wrote:On June 18 2013 01:05 Hryul wrote:On June 18 2013 01:03 wozzot wrote:
RIP white dudes sjow is still in this!! The SjoW must go on Life will sjow him the way out you broke something
i fixed it for you. in a way
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On June 18 2013 01:15 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote:On June 18 2013 01:13 ACrow wrote:On June 18 2013 01:10 Schelim wrote:On June 18 2013 01:10 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:09 TheDwf wrote:On June 18 2013 01:07 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:06 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:05 packrat386 wrote:On June 18 2013 01:03 geokilla wrote:
TLO must've wanted to lose this real badly.. Chooses Neo Planet S then goes Hatch first. You simply don't go Hatch first in Neo Planet S. yeah its such a small map relative to the rest of the pool. I dunno how maps work, but he should have vetoed it if he had a chance. this is simply false. You 15 hatch on EVERY map in zvt in Life vs T you do whatever you want, because you are just too awesome to lose This has absolutely nothing to do with Life... sorry, forgot. Life plays his own race... time to start calling him the fourth race, like Moon was the fifth race in war3 With the pace Protoss is going, you could call him the third race. P would be the warm up opponents of the fourth race early on in the tournament -.- P isn't doing nearly as bad as UD was in the last few years of war3 but we didn't refer to Moon as the fourth race anyways Ted won WCG. Balanced.
i surrender to your flawless argumentation
but in that regard, Protoss players have won not just one, but THREE GSLs. so obviously they're balanced too.
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On June 18 2013 01:13 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:11 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:11 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:10 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:09 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:08 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:07 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:06 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:05 packrat386 wrote:On June 18 2013 01:03 geokilla wrote:
TLO must've wanted to lose this real badly.. Chooses Neo Planet S then goes Hatch first. You simply don't go Hatch first in Neo Planet S. yeah its such a small map relative to the rest of the pool. I dunno how maps work, but he should have vetoed it if he had a chance. this is simply false. You 15 hatch on EVERY map in zvt in Life vs T you do whatever you want, because you are just too awesome to lose it doesnt matter who the player is, unless you are plat and below you will hatch first nope. Life macro 10pools a lot. Or whatever you call that build. but that is not to play safe, it is to be agressive It's pretty safe against those kind of 2rax I'd say. You just have no clue what you are talking about. Stop embarassing yourself on this subject. You don't do anything except hatch first if you play a normal game. Not counting blind 10 pools to catch a cc on lowground. Lol. Life has won many macro games of 10pools, without catchin a CC on low ground or a 2rax. Really, I'm not saying it's the most amazing macro build. But it's not like it is not an option at all.
He just makes units at random times and somehow they become cost efficient.
that's why no one but him opens 10 pool in zvt because no one plays like him
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On June 18 2013 01:14 Eurekastreet wrote:
I think (am not sure) during all the agression, TLO kept mining gas in his main....was it a mistake/panic ? Isn't it better to go full minerals (for an eventual extra spine crawler) until you can kill the proxy agression ?
There was atleast something weird there. Normally against proxy 2rax I see 2 spines going down and if a spine gets focused like happened there it gets cancelled and possibly remade. You can't really have a spine so low on hp before it actually burrows in range of the bunker, especially if you don't have transfuse availeble.
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On June 18 2013 01:16 Hryul wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:14 packrat386 wrote:On June 18 2013 01:12 Blix wrote:On June 18 2013 01:11 Provocateur wrote:On June 18 2013 01:09 Hryul wrote:On June 18 2013 01:06 Fusilero wrote:On June 18 2013 01:05 Hryul wrote:On June 18 2013 01:03 wozzot wrote:
RIP white dudes sjow is still in this!! The SjoW must go on Life will sjow him the way out you broke something i fixed it for you. in a way
thanks. My brain needed that.
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On June 18 2013 01:16 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:13 Decendos wrote:On June 18 2013 01:09 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:08 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:07 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:06 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:05 packrat386 wrote:On June 18 2013 01:03 geokilla wrote:
TLO must've wanted to lose this real badly.. Chooses Neo Planet S then goes Hatch first. You simply don't go Hatch first in Neo Planet S. yeah its such a small map relative to the rest of the pool. I dunno how maps work, but he should have vetoed it if he had a chance. this is simply false. You 15 hatch on EVERY map in zvt in Life vs T you do whatever you want, because you are just too awesome to lose it doesnt matter who the player is, unless you are plat and below you will hatch first nope. Life macro 10pools a lot. Or whatever you call that build. 15 hatch is much better at defending 2 rax than pool first because you need creep to put down a spine. still feel bad for TLO. its sad that even after 3 years a lot of T get free wins with 2 rax play which is always a very strong cheese unless you luckily find the raxes building early on. building the bunker further back makes zergs panic,its hard to engage way of creep
yeah, i feel its better to instantly build 2 spines (even delaying lings a bit if needed) to defend 11 11.
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On June 18 2013 01:15 packrat386 wrote:
As much as I also think that the series will be pretty one sided, it ain't over til its over. SjoW is the worse player, but Life still has to beat him.
Life could press 'X' and detonate all his banelings...
Or he could grab a coffee in the middle of the game, stirr it, add extra sugar and trip on the way back breaking his wrist.
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FUCK, this music is taking me back to when I was a kid having summer BBQ's with my mum n dad. so awesome
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On June 18 2013 01:17 ETisME wrote:
He just makes units at random times and somehow they become cost efficient.
You're thinking of MKP circa 2012
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On June 18 2013 01:17 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:13 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:11 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:11 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:10 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:09 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:08 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:07 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:06 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:05 packrat386 wrote:
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yeah its such a small map relative to the rest of the pool. I dunno how maps work, but he should have vetoed it if he had a chance. this is simply false. You 15 hatch on EVERY map in zvt in Life vs T you do whatever you want, because you are just too awesome to lose it doesnt matter who the player is, unless you are plat and below you will hatch first nope. Life macro 10pools a lot. Or whatever you call that build. but that is not to play safe, it is to be agressive It's pretty safe against those kind of 2rax I'd say. You just have no clue what you are talking about. Stop embarassing yourself on this subject. You don't do anything except hatch first if you play a normal game. Not counting blind 10 pools to catch a cc on lowground. Lol. Life has won many macro games of 10pools, without catchin a CC on low ground or a 2rax. Really, I'm not saying it's the most amazing macro build. But it's not like it is not an option at all. He just makes units at random times and somehow they become cost efficient. that's why no one but him opens 10 pool in zvt because no one plays like him
It's not really random. Star sense. He is the player with the most experience when opening 10 pool. Enemies have to play on his playground and he enjoys that and knows how to abuse units to get ahead.
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On June 18 2013 01:17 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 01:13 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:11 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:11 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:10 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:09 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:08 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:07 Big J wrote:On June 18 2013 01:06 nkr wrote:On June 18 2013 01:05 packrat386 wrote:
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yeah its such a small map relative to the rest of the pool. I dunno how maps work, but he should have vetoed it if he had a chance. this is simply false. You 15 hatch on EVERY map in zvt in Life vs T you do whatever you want, because you are just too awesome to lose it doesnt matter who the player is, unless you are plat and below you will hatch first nope. Life macro 10pools a lot. Or whatever you call that build. but that is not to play safe, it is to be agressive It's pretty safe against those kind of 2rax I'd say. You just have no clue what you are talking about. Stop embarassing yourself on this subject. You don't do anything except hatch first if you play a normal game. Not counting blind 10 pools to catch a cc on lowground. Lol. Life has won many macro games of 10pools, without catchin a CC on low ground or a 2rax. Really, I'm not saying it's the most amazing macro build. But it's not like it is not an option at all. He just makes units at random times and somehow they become cost efficient. that's why no one but him opens 10 pool in zvt because no one plays like him
Life isn't the only one who uses 10p in ZvT. For example, Lowely does it too.
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So the questions will be, how many lings will Life make to win and will he make another unit besides a few queens and lings?
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Does anyone know how to set the swedish stream to lower quality?
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Does anyone know the song that currently is played? Thanks a lot!
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yes life has always thought this is SJOW TIME!
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how long do you guys think the Life vs Sjow series will take all in all?
gonna say 20 minutes from the moment game 1 starts to the moment game 2 ends. including breaks and stuff.
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