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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 09 2013 20:44 GMT
#7561
On June 10 2013 01:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
Just watched the Vods of the finals and I have several gripes.

First, I couldn't find the vods on the WCS website, so I had to come into this thread to find the actual time the finals began. Naturally, the WCS website had already spoiled the results for me, as they are displayed on the right hand side.

Secondly, Day9 and Apollo's casting was embarrassing. They either were sleep deprived, drunk or something else was seriously wrong. They weren't actually saying anything half the time, they whistling, going "dum de dum" and whatnot during the battles. I had to apologize to the people (not so into SC as me) who I showed the finals to.

Third, the actual production was dismal. No good fillers, poor graphical presentation, awful sound. They even messed up the overlay in the last game (it showed sOs's supply as Innovation's, and vice versa). This is supposed to be the premier event and yet it was god awful.

The games were nice, though. Watched every single one of them despite knowing the results.


yeah seriously, some of the worst casting ive seen in a long time. Especially relative to my expectations
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 09 2013 20:54 GMT
#7562
Why would you watch the Day9/Apollo finals stream for good casting? They basically told everyone that the OGN Lounge stream was casual, not in-depth and was going to be just friends watching the games and saying whatever. They had been casting for three days straight, their voices were raw, and they weren't the main casters for the finals. If you wanted the professional, in-depth cast, you watched Monte and Doa who did a great job all weekend. I can agree they were awful if they had acted like they were going to do a serious cast of the finals, but that's never what they promised. If you came into the secondary stream expecting anything more than a casual commentary on the games, then it's your fault for not paying attention to what they said all weekend about how the second stream was for fun.
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vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
June 09 2013 20:56 GMT
#7563
Dafuq, why so early? It started so much later on the other days... sigh...
To live is to fight, to fight is to live!
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1710 Posts
June 09 2013 21:10 GMT
#7564
On June 10 2013 05:56 vhapter wrote:
Dafuq, why so early? It started so much later on the other days... sigh...


i think ur watchng the rebroadcast dude
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 21:36:45
June 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#7565
On June 10 2013 05:44 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 01:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
Just watched the Vods of the finals and I have several gripes.

First, I couldn't find the vods on the WCS website, so I had to come into this thread to find the actual time the finals began. Naturally, the WCS website had already spoiled the results for me, as they are displayed on the right hand side.

Secondly, Day9 and Apollo's casting was embarrassing. They either were sleep deprived, drunk or something else was seriously wrong. They weren't actually saying anything half the time, they whistling, going "dum de dum" and whatnot during the battles. I had to apologize to the people (not so into SC as me) who I showed the finals to.

Third, the actual production was dismal. No good fillers, poor graphical presentation, awful sound. They even messed up the overlay in the last game (it showed sOs's supply as Innovation's, and vice versa). This is supposed to be the premier event and yet it was god awful.

The games were nice, though. Watched every single one of them despite knowing the results.


yeah seriously, some of the worst casting ive seen in a long time. Especially relative to my expectations


Sometimes I wonder about people on this site. The two main casting streams were doa/monte and tastosis. The ogn lounge couch stream was not a true casting stream. It was just a casual side stream, not meant for serious casting. It was meant to be just them talking about the game like friends would at a barcraft. They weren't casting the finals and it was never meant to be seen as a dual cast. The finals on the ogn stream were given to doa/monte, just like mlg gave axslav/axeltoss the americas finals. The fault lies with you guys for not knowing the purpose of the couch stream and is based on your guys own ignorance. Please do a better job of informing yourself next time.

People like this and others who have criticized that stream is why we can't have fun things in esports. Why would a tournament or caster ever want to subject themselves to a casual couch stream again if people are just going to hate and go omg so unprofessional, not a serious cast, get the pitchforks out! I'm glad some people are smart enough to understand the purpose of the casual stream and enjoyed and had fun with it like I did.

That pen marks tells me you're a writer on this site. This would lead me to question anything you've ever written, if you can't even inform yourself on something as simple as the purpose of a casual side stream because fact checking doesn't seem to be your strong point.

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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 09 2013 21:17 GMT
#7566
On June 10 2013 05:54 Fionn wrote:
Why would you watch the Day9/Apollo finals stream for good casting? They basically told everyone that the OGN Lounge stream was casual, not in-depth and was going to be just friends watching the games and saying whatever. They had been casting for three days straight, their voices were raw, and they weren't the main casters for the finals. If you wanted the professional, in-depth cast, you watched Monte and Doa who did a great job all weekend. I can agree they were awful if they had acted like they were going to do a serious cast of the finals, but that's never what they promised. If you came into the secondary stream expecting anything more than a casual commentary on the games, then it's your fault for not paying attention to what they said all weekend about how the second stream was for fun.

Yup, I watched the ro4/finals with Day9/Apollo casting, and very much enjoyed it. Sometimes it's more relaxing and entertaining for some people to just listen to them speak almost as fan/spectators, as opposed to fluff/hype/professional.
Refer to my post.
evaniss
Profile Joined May 2013
53 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 21:53:34
June 09 2013 21:44 GMT
#7567
i just have to say this
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

take a look around of The series and overall, minor sound issues and some of lack UI should NOT be a problem to enjoy watch
Try to Watch with main OGN stream it was satisfied enough to watch In comparison with other tournament broadcasting
i like to see BW units in SC2
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
June 09 2013 22:03 GMT
#7568
the link to the vods is broken?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37074 Posts
June 09 2013 22:32 GMT
#7569
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416591

Interview is up!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Bishnu Ghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
34 Posts
June 09 2013 22:32 GMT
#7570
WCS Season 1 Grand Finals Highlights Innovation v sOS
xgtx
Profile Joined February 2009
227 Posts
June 09 2013 22:49 GMT
#7571
Is there any way to get the full FPVOD ? I would pay money for it!
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 09 2013 23:08 GMT
#7572
On June 10 2013 07:49 xgtx wrote:
Is there any way to get the full FPVOD ? I would pay money for it!

gomtv?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 23:11 GMT
#7573
On June 10 2013 06:16 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 05:44 Divinek wrote:
On June 10 2013 01:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
Just watched the Vods of the finals and I have several gripes.

First, I couldn't find the vods on the WCS website, so I had to come into this thread to find the actual time the finals began. Naturally, the WCS website had already spoiled the results for me, as they are displayed on the right hand side.

Secondly, Day9 and Apollo's casting was embarrassing. They either were sleep deprived, drunk or something else was seriously wrong. They weren't actually saying anything half the time, they whistling, going "dum de dum" and whatnot during the battles. I had to apologize to the people (not so into SC as me) who I showed the finals to.

Third, the actual production was dismal. No good fillers, poor graphical presentation, awful sound. They even messed up the overlay in the last game (it showed sOs's supply as Innovation's, and vice versa). This is supposed to be the premier event and yet it was god awful.

The games were nice, though. Watched every single one of them despite knowing the results.


yeah seriously, some of the worst casting ive seen in a long time. Especially relative to my expectations


Sometimes I wonder about people on this site. The two main casting streams were doa/monte and tastosis. The ogn lounge couch stream was not a true casting stream. It was just a casual side stream, not meant for serious casting. It was meant to be just them talking about the game like friends would at a barcraft. They weren't casting the finals and it was never meant to be seen as a dual cast. The finals on the ogn stream were given to doa/monte, just like mlg gave axslav/axeltoss the americas finals. The fault lies with you guys for not knowing the purpose of the couch stream and is based on your guys own ignorance. Please do a better job of informing yourself next time.

People like this and others who have criticized that stream is why we can't have fun things in esports. Why would a tournament or caster ever want to subject themselves to a casual couch stream again if people are just going to hate and go omg so unprofessional, not a serious cast, get the pitchforks out! I'm glad some people are smart enough to understand the purpose of the casual stream and enjoyed and had fun with it like I did.

That pen marks tells me you're a writer on this site. This would lead me to question anything you've ever written, if you can't even inform yourself on something as simple as the purpose of a casual side stream because fact checking doesn't seem to be your strong point.



I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
June 09 2013 23:37 GMT
#7574
None of the vod links in the OP work.
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
June 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#7575
On June 10 2013 03:49 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 19:09 juicyjames wrote:
If your VODs have no sound just refresh a few times or remove the timestamp and go through the VODs manually. It's a TwitchTV bug.

WCS SEASON 1 FINALS SPOILER-FREE VODS




Group A
Match 1: EG.aLive.RC vs Woongjin.Soulkey
Match 2: EG.Stephano.RC vs Liquid.TLO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group B
Match 1: Axiom.Ryung vs LG-IM.Mvp
Match 2: Axiom.Alicia vs LG-IM.KangHo
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group C
Match 1: Liquid.HerO vs Mill.fOrGG
Match 2: AZUBU.Symbol vs Woongjin.sOs
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group D
Match 1: EG.Revival.RC vs STX.INnoVation
Match 2: ROCCAT.DIMAGA vs Samsung.RorO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match



Quarter-Finals A
Winner of Group A vs Second of Group D

Quarter-Finals B
Winner of Group B vs Second of Group C

Quarter-Finals C
Winner of Group C vs Second of Group B

Quarter-Finals D
Winner of Group D vs Second of Group A



Semi-Finals A
Winner of Quarter-Finals A vs Winner of Quarter-Finals B

Semi-Finals B
Winner of Quarter-Finals C vs Winner of Quarter-Finals D



Grand Finals
Winner of Semi-Finals A vs Winner of Semi-Finals B

thanks mate! now reclaim the LR OP and everything's fine


But i'll bump this for anyone else looking.
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
June 09 2013 23:49 GMT
#7576
On June 10 2013 01:57 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 19:09 juicyjames wrote:
If your VODs have no sound just refresh a few times or remove the timestamp and go through the VODs manually. It's a TwitchTV bug.

WCS SEASON 1 FINALS SPOILER-FREE VODS




Group A
Match 1: EG.aLive.RC vs Woongjin.Soulkey
Match 2: EG.Stephano.RC vs Liquid.TLO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group B
Match 1: Axiom.Ryung vs LG-IM.Mvp
Match 2: Axiom.Alicia vs LG-IM.KangHo
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group C
Match 1: Liquid.HerO vs Mill.fOrGG
Match 2: AZUBU.Symbol vs Woongjin.sOs
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group D
Match 1: EG.Revival.RC vs STX.INnoVation
Match 2: ROCCAT.DIMAGA vs Samsung.RorO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match



Quarter-Finals A
Winner of Group A vs Second of Group D

Quarter-Finals B
Winner of Group B vs Second of Group C

Quarter-Finals C
Winner of Group C vs Second of Group B

Quarter-Finals D
Winner of Group D vs Second of Group A



Semi-Finals A
Winner of Quarter-Finals A vs Winner of Quarter-Finals B

Semi-Finals B
Winner of Quarter-Finals C vs Winner of Quarter-Finals D



Grand Finals
Winner of Semi-Finals A vs Winner of Semi-Finals B


These VODs still work for me.
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
June 10 2013 00:08 GMT
#7577
On June 10 2013 08:37 Spacekyod wrote:
None of the vod links in the OP work.


replace teamliquid.net with twitch.tv. I don't know why the site automatically replace twitch.tv with broken teamliquid.net.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
June 10 2013 00:11 GMT
#7578
also, mainstream's vod for the grandfinal is now up: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/b/414479201
Die-hard KeSPA fan
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
June 10 2013 00:44 GMT
#7579
Innovation needs a psychologist to stop tilting and throwing away games to lesser opponents :/
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 10 2013 01:00 GMT
#7580
On June 10 2013 09:44 Elroi wrote:
Innovation needs a psychologist to stop tilting and throwing away games to lesser opponents :/


Most teams probably don't invest in a psychologist for e-sports as far as I'm aware.

Not that I know exactly what lesser opponent he threw games to? Mvp and Roro were his only game losses. Probably the #2 zerg and #2 terran in the world. If #2 can't take games off #1, then even the word bonjwa wouldn't be enough to describe that...
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