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Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
June 09 2013 18:17 GMT
#7541
I have to say: Tasteless performance was the best of his career I think. Very, very impressive and professional. Something happened to cause this slight change of style? I mean, he is always good, but today (or yesterday, depends) he was a bit more analytical and insightful than usual.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
June 09 2013 18:23 GMT
#7542
On June 10 2013 03:17 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I have to say: Tasteless performance was the best of his career I think. Very, very impressive and professional. Something happened to cause this slight change of style? I mean, he is always good, but today (or yesterday, depends) he was a bit more analytical and insightful than usual.



I think he felt less pressure, and less need to be politically correct, since they are not the main stream. He always has that insight, it's just that he usually takes back seat for political correctness or Artosis.

Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
June 09 2013 18:27 GMT
#7543
On June 10 2013 02:20 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 02:11 RookUK wrote:
OGN's production of this tournament has been absolutely diabolical in most respects. Having subscribed, the VOD-viewing experience has been incredibly poor compared to what I've come to expect from WCS up to this point. Mislabelled VODs causing me to look elsewhere for the "real" ones resulting in me coming across spoilers, no availability of main stream final VODs (yet) and an almost unbelievably poor second stream cast from Day 9 and Apollo as others have said.

Add to that the almost always missing overlays during the Round of 16, confusing overlays in the final particularly, and English language casters having to guess when they should be able to access information properly by observing. It simply wasn't good enough, and I hope Blizzard are giving OGN a stern talking to for damaging much of the excitement that had been built up by MLG, Gom and (especially) ESL.


Once again Apollo and Day[9] weren't casting the games. If you wanted to watch commentary you should be tuning into OGN1 or the GOM cast. It's funny because everyone who tuned in and paid close attention to this LR enjoyed the couch more than OGN1 and the GOM cast. The mixing of the overlays was annoying, but lots of people caught it early. Unfortunately their production team didn't. As for Damaging the excitement? lol You got to be joking especially when you consider all the snafu's those other production teams had. Stop grasping at straws fella!


Who are you to declare my concerns invalid? You think you know more about the experience I had than I do? This kind of attitude coming from a lot of posters recently is something I just can't understand... the implicit idea that anyone who finds fault with something isn't entitled to an opinion.

I watched the "non-casting" of the games because yes, eight hours after the games, OGN hadn't made the main VODs available. If I'd waited longer, having no idea how long it would take for said VODs, I'd have found it even more difficult to avoid spoilers of the final (having already had the semis spoiled).

MLG made some mistakes, but their presentation of games, overall professionalism and especially organisation of VODs was vastly superior to OGN's shambolic performance.
evaniss
Profile Joined May 2013
53 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 19:08:03
June 09 2013 18:33 GMT
#7544
overall, OGN did good job. and they showed the their ability as well
as like they have been broadcast and host Tournaments for over 10 years

the tournament has started in quite the early time for the prime time in american time zones
at least, they were considered foreign viewers quite much

and you have to know OGN is TV station they Broadcasts nationwide of korea
so basiclly Koreans are their main target viewers. OGN produces and broadcasts in a format that works best for Koreans viewers

overall, Compared with other production team OGN they did good job

espeically speaking the OGN Lounge Talk Show, it was a variety show that i was so much entertaining
No complaints at all, in comparison with other broadcast production teams.
i like to see BW units in SC2
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
June 09 2013 18:49 GMT
#7545
On June 09 2013 19:09 juicyjames wrote:
If your VODs have no sound just refresh a few times or remove the timestamp and go through the VODs manually. It's a TwitchTV bug.

WCS SEASON 1 FINALS SPOILER-FREE VODS




Group A
Match 1: EG.aLive.RC vs Woongjin.Soulkey
Match 2: EG.Stephano.RC vs Liquid.TLO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group B
Match 1: Axiom.Ryung vs LG-IM.Mvp
Match 2: Axiom.Alicia vs LG-IM.KangHo
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group C
Match 1: Liquid.HerO vs Mill.fOrGG
Match 2: AZUBU.Symbol vs Woongjin.sOs
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match

Group D
Match 1: EG.Revival.RC vs STX.INnoVation
Match 2: ROCCAT.DIMAGA vs Samsung.RorO
Match 3: Winner's Match
Match 4: Loser's Match
Match 5: Final Match



Quarter-Finals A
Winner of Group A vs Second of Group D

Quarter-Finals B
Winner of Group B vs Second of Group C

Quarter-Finals C
Winner of Group C vs Second of Group B

Quarter-Finals D
Winner of Group D vs Second of Group A



Semi-Finals A
Winner of Quarter-Finals A vs Winner of Quarter-Finals B

Semi-Finals B
Winner of Quarter-Finals C vs Winner of Quarter-Finals D



Grand Finals
Winner of Semi-Finals A vs Winner of Semi-Finals B

thanks mate! now reclaim the LR OP and everything's fine
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 09 2013 18:49 GMT
#7546
On June 10 2013 03:27 RookUK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 02:20 StarStruck wrote:
On June 10 2013 02:11 RookUK wrote:
OGN's production of this tournament has been absolutely diabolical in most respects. Having subscribed, the VOD-viewing experience has been incredibly poor compared to what I've come to expect from WCS up to this point. Mislabelled VODs causing me to look elsewhere for the "real" ones resulting in me coming across spoilers, no availability of main stream final VODs (yet) and an almost unbelievably poor second stream cast from Day 9 and Apollo as others have said.

Add to that the almost always missing overlays during the Round of 16, confusing overlays in the final particularly, and English language casters having to guess when they should be able to access information properly by observing. It simply wasn't good enough, and I hope Blizzard are giving OGN a stern talking to for damaging much of the excitement that had been built up by MLG, Gom and (especially) ESL.


Once again Apollo and Day[9] weren't casting the games. If you wanted to watch commentary you should be tuning into OGN1 or the GOM cast. It's funny because everyone who tuned in and paid close attention to this LR enjoyed the couch more than OGN1 and the GOM cast. The mixing of the overlays was annoying, but lots of people caught it early. Unfortunately their production team didn't. As for Damaging the excitement? lol You got to be joking especially when you consider all the snafu's those other production teams had. Stop grasping at straws fella!


Who are you to declare my concerns invalid? You think you know more about the experience I had than I do? This kind of attitude coming from a lot of posters recently is something I just can't understand... the implicit idea that anyone who finds fault with something isn't entitled to an opinion.

I watched the "non-casting" of the games because yes, eight hours after the games, OGN hadn't made the main VODs available. If I'd waited longer, having no idea how long it would take for said VODs, I'd have found it even more difficult to avoid spoilers of the final (having already had the semis spoiled).

MLG made some mistakes, but their presentation of games, overall professionalism and especially organisation of VODs was vastly superior to OGN's shambolic performance.


Oh noes! VODs weren't up EIGHT HOURS AFTER.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but we're also entitled to tell you that your opinions are based on false premise and are thus completely misinformed.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 09 2013 18:51 GMT
#7547
On June 10 2013 03:49 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 03:27 RookUK wrote:
On June 10 2013 02:20 StarStruck wrote:
On June 10 2013 02:11 RookUK wrote:
OGN's production of this tournament has been absolutely diabolical in most respects. Having subscribed, the VOD-viewing experience has been incredibly poor compared to what I've come to expect from WCS up to this point. Mislabelled VODs causing me to look elsewhere for the "real" ones resulting in me coming across spoilers, no availability of main stream final VODs (yet) and an almost unbelievably poor second stream cast from Day 9 and Apollo as others have said.

Add to that the almost always missing overlays during the Round of 16, confusing overlays in the final particularly, and English language casters having to guess when they should be able to access information properly by observing. It simply wasn't good enough, and I hope Blizzard are giving OGN a stern talking to for damaging much of the excitement that had been built up by MLG, Gom and (especially) ESL.


Once again Apollo and Day[9] weren't casting the games. If you wanted to watch commentary you should be tuning into OGN1 or the GOM cast. It's funny because everyone who tuned in and paid close attention to this LR enjoyed the couch more than OGN1 and the GOM cast. The mixing of the overlays was annoying, but lots of people caught it early. Unfortunately their production team didn't. As for Damaging the excitement? lol You got to be joking especially when you consider all the snafu's those other production teams had. Stop grasping at straws fella!


Who are you to declare my concerns invalid? You think you know more about the experience I had than I do? This kind of attitude coming from a lot of posters recently is something I just can't understand... the implicit idea that anyone who finds fault with something isn't entitled to an opinion.

I watched the "non-casting" of the games because yes, eight hours after the games, OGN hadn't made the main VODs available. If I'd waited longer, having no idea how long it would take for said VODs, I'd have found it even more difficult to avoid spoilers of the final (having already had the semis spoiled).

MLG made some mistakes, but their presentation of games, overall professionalism and especially organisation of VODs was vastly superior to OGN's shambolic performance.


Oh noes! VODs weren't up EIGHT HOURS AFTER.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but we're also entitled to tell you that your opinions are based on false premise and are thus completely misinformed.

Is that a loaf of bread with a kitty face?!
Refer to my post.
Thunderbolt8
Profile Joined June 2013
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 19:44:48
June 09 2013 19:06 GMT
#7548


User was warned for this post
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
June 09 2013 19:07 GMT
#7549
just watching the vods again of mvp vs innovation

i thought day9 and apollo really made those games extra interesting.

maybe just me, but i really like all their "added" sound effects along the line

but oh well, not everyone watches and listen to the same stuff
HBmaKro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada93 Posts
June 09 2013 19:10 GMT
#7550
how much did 2nd place get?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 09 2013 19:13 GMT
#7551
On June 10 2013 04:10 HBmaKro wrote:
how much did 2nd place get?

$20,000
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Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
June 09 2013 19:13 GMT
#7552
On June 10 2013 04:10 HBmaKro wrote:
how much did 2nd place get?


20'000
Thunderbolt8
Profile Joined June 2013
11 Posts
June 09 2013 19:16 GMT
#7553
2000 wcs points
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 19:19:15
June 09 2013 19:18 GMT
#7554
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1

9th-12th ($5000, +750 pts): (Z)Revival / (P)HerO / (Z)KangHo / (Z)TLO
13th-16th ($5000, +500 pts): (Z)DIMAGA / (Z)Symbol / (T)Ryung / (Z)Stephano
(co-inciding with 3rd and 4th place in group stage)

So apparently TLO finished as the highest-ranked non-Korean. Congratz, Dario!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 09 2013 19:24 GMT
#7555
well yeah he was the highest non korean because he's the only non korean that won a match
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 09 2013 19:28 GMT
#7556
On June 10 2013 04:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
well yeah he was the highest non korean because he's the only non korean that won a match


Against another non korean to boot. I'm not sure if foreign players really stand a chance any more against top tier korean players.
dreaming of a sunny day
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
June 09 2013 19:38 GMT
#7557
On June 10 2013 03:17 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I have to say: Tasteless performance was the best of his career I think. Very, very impressive and professional. Something happened to cause this slight change of style? I mean, he is always good, but today (or yesterday, depends) he was a bit more analytical and insightful than usual.


I agree, these two guys are funny, witty, prepared, work hard and it shows. I greatly enjoy their casting and they never get boring to me. And Tastless in particular has a rare gift in explaining the game to casual spectators who don't know it.
HBmaKro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada93 Posts
June 09 2013 19:41 GMT
#7558
20,000 not bad lol. How are these guys salary-wise? haha
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 19:59 GMT
#7559
Dario has been steadily improving in all the tournaments I've seen him in and he's been doing it on his own time. Props to him.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
June 09 2013 20:09 GMT
#7560
i don't know if it's just me... but why does everyone think that tempest thing is soo creative and new and stuff.. i get it all the time on ladder, (masters na)
rip prime
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