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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 09 2013 14:44 GMT
#7501
apollo, stop singing! you're a great caster, but your singing needs some improvement.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
June 09 2013 14:47 GMT
#7502
On June 09 2013 23:44 virpi wrote:
apollo, stop singing! you're a great caster, but your singing needs some improvement.

All the better to practice, then!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 09 2013 14:57 GMT
#7503
On June 09 2013 23:43 theBALLS wrote:
I hate sos for making the finals so boring

yeah it's not as if soulkey vs innovation was a bad finals or anything
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 09 2013 15:12 GMT
#7504
On June 09 2013 23:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 23:43 theBALLS wrote:
I hate sos for making the finals so boring

yeah it's not as if soulkey vs innovation was a bad finals or anything


Well the games were pretty bad, but it was certainly not boring.

On the other hand sOs' games were pretty funny
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Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
June 09 2013 15:19 GMT
#7505
Hard to watch these vods when the english audio is being drowned out by the Korean commentators going berserk in the background. This is a disappointing and shoddy production given all the hype and expectations.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
June 09 2013 15:21 GMT
#7506
I'm just glad that ForGG and MVP stomped all over the people who said they're not up to it. The clearly showed that they are great players and can compete on Code S level any day of the week even though they have been playing on the EU ladder.

Also happy for Innovation who showed that he is the best player atm, leaving no doubt!
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 09 2013 15:39 GMT
#7507
On June 09 2013 22:40 ColtraneL wrote:
I have the feeling that after the RO8 of this last GSL/WCS and then the WCS finals (who were basically a walkover for the winner of the korean event, except Symbol who had a very tough group), people have automatically treated every other korean player as being inferior although we didn't see any of them play in individual league for so long now because of how few tournaments there are. At the same time, this is still the beginning of HOTS and the game is changing a lot, there could be some serious new contenders now. Even Life has been qualified as in bad shape because he lost two series to Innovation and Parting.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think that the level of skill of the winners of the korean event is obviously a thousand times better than the other, we hype them as being so good for being twice in a row in the RO4 but we didn't bring any new player to prevent them aside from Mvp. I am very excited for the OSL to see if the same players are going to shine or if we are going to have some new very good talent.

If it's true that OSL will be bo1 in the ro32 groups, and bo1 round robin in ro16, we could see very unpredictable results.
HBmaKro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada93 Posts
June 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#7508
Some of the korean announcers in the back during the games are SO annoying..Jesus christ.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#7509
On June 09 2013 23:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

I like it the way it is. It's better than in BW atm. If sc3 is a game where the hardest working players don't win, then it won't be a game that i like to watch.

ForGG works harder than Mvp. He didn't win.

Hard work isn't the determinant factor nor should it be.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 09 2013 15:47 GMT
#7510
On June 10 2013 00:45 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 23:15 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

I like it the way it is. It's better than in BW atm. If sc3 is a game where the hardest working players don't win, then it won't be a game that i like to watch.

ForGG works harder than Mvp. He didn't win.

Hard work isn't the determinant factor nor should it be.

Please show me facts for this silly claim.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
June 09 2013 15:48 GMT
#7511
Anyone knows where I can find free VODs of the grand finals?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 09 2013 15:50 GMT
#7512
On June 10 2013 00:39 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 22:40 ColtraneL wrote:
I have the feeling that after the RO8 of this last GSL/WCS and then the WCS finals (who were basically a walkover for the winner of the korean event, except Symbol who had a very tough group), people have automatically treated every other korean player as being inferior although we didn't see any of them play in individual league for so long now because of how few tournaments there are. At the same time, this is still the beginning of HOTS and the game is changing a lot, there could be some serious new contenders now. Even Life has been qualified as in bad shape because he lost two series to Innovation and Parting.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think that the level of skill of the winners of the korean event is obviously a thousand times better than the other, we hype them as being so good for being twice in a row in the RO4 but we didn't bring any new player to prevent them aside from Mvp. I am very excited for the OSL to see if the same players are going to shine or if we are going to have some new very good talent.

If it's true that OSL will be bo1 in the ro32 groups, and bo1 round robin in ro16, we could see very unpredictable results.

I just assumed it would remain GSL format, did you hear they might stick with their previous format? I wouldn't mind it for the sake of variety. I used to love the GSL group system a lot, then every WCS region started doing it I find it has lost its flavor (just imo)
Refer to my post.
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
June 09 2013 15:51 GMT
#7513
On June 10 2013 00:45 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 23:15 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

I like it the way it is. It's better than in BW atm. If sc3 is a game where the hardest working players don't win, then it won't be a game that i like to watch.

ForGG works harder than Mvp. He didn't win.

Hard work isn't the determinant factor nor should it be.


Innovation is the perfect example of hard work coupled with a good practice regime paying off. Seeïng where he came from in BW.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 09 2013 16:03 GMT
#7514
On June 10 2013 00:45 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 23:15 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

I like it the way it is. It's better than in BW atm. If sc3 is a game where the hardest working players don't win, then it won't be a game that i like to watch.

ForGG works harder than Mvp. He didn't win.

Hard work isn't the determinant factor nor should it be.

That's fine, there is always also things like confidence and talent which are important. The later one was especially important in BW and still is somewhat relevant. I think ForGG was a bit unlucky, he made some moves which were questionable but that's what happens in SC2.
ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
June 09 2013 16:04 GMT
#7515
All in all, WCS EU had the best organization, commentating and the most exciting games. But I guess the latter is because Innovation didn't play there. The guy is just out of this world.
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
HBmaKro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada93 Posts
June 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#7516
as long as its not korean announcers.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 16:13 GMT
#7517
On June 10 2013 00:19 Cyrak wrote:
Hard to watch these vods when the english audio is being drowned out by the Korean commentators going berserk in the background. This is a disappointing and shoddy production given all the hype and expectations.

On June 10 2013 00:44 HBmaKro wrote:
Some of the korean announcers in the back during the games are SO annoying..Jesus christ.


It's as if you guys never heard these guys before. You rather have the couch and the other announcers stuck in some sound proof backroom?
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
June 09 2013 16:15 GMT
#7518
On June 10 2013 01:13 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 00:19 Cyrak wrote:
Hard to watch these vods when the english audio is being drowned out by the Korean commentators going berserk in the background. This is a disappointing and shoddy production given all the hype and expectations.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 00:44 HBmaKro wrote:
Some of the korean announcers in the back during the games are SO annoying..Jesus christ.


It's as if you guys never heard these guys before. You rather have the couch and the other announcers stuck in some sound proof backroom?

Wasn't this the GOMTV stream?
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 16:18:01
June 09 2013 16:16 GMT
#7519
On June 09 2013 22:51 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 22:49 KobraKay wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:37 TheShimmy wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:29 Epamynondas wrote:
On June 09 2013 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

wasnt that said about sc2?

I have no idea about how it was with bw, but from what I've heard it's gotten way better with sc2? As in we don't have to throw a party every time a foreigner takes a game off a korean.


Maybe not in WCS America or WCS EU, but in old GSL's (old? Like three years ago. Wow has SC2 really been out this long???) Naniwa and other foreigners who could advance were the white man's King of Kings in starcraft. In BW there was a similar trend. Foreigners like Grrr (eSports hall of famer) and Idra had success with Koreans but eventually the Korean dominance takes over. More to the point, when Thorzain won a game in Proleague we did indeed throw a party.


That is not in the "old GSL's" or 3 years ago for that matter. In the beggining you had Jinro and Idra going far, that was something like 3 years ago

Then there was Huk...after that Naniwa. And even now, sometimes you get a win from a korean. Its still better than it was in BW.

Also Idra had no success with koreans in bw. He was on Estro and CJ and was good in foreigner terms but Im not sure you can say he had success in bw with koreans.

People forget guillaume patry and bertand gospellier


Compare the game back then to how BW is now? You cannot even compare the two. We had so many eras man and that era was just as BoxeR was emerging. There is no comparison.

On June 09 2013 22:10 Mariosatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 20:59 CR1PPLeR wrote:
I feel that Kings of Liberty (MVP and MC) will make a big comeback in WCS season 2 to claim back their thrones. An MVP vs MC WCS season 2 final would be epic.

If NesTea breaks through in WCS AM too, Mvp NesTea MC top 3 would be epic.


Chances of that happening sound improbable.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 09 2013 16:25 GMT
#7520
Just watched the Vods of the finals and I have several gripes.

First, I couldn't find the vods on the WCS website, so I had to come into this thread to find the actual time the finals began. Naturally, the WCS website had already spoiled the results for me, as they are displayed on the right hand side.

Secondly, Day9 and Apollo's casting was embarrassing. They either were sleep deprived, drunk or something else was seriously wrong. They weren't actually saying anything half the time, they whistling, going "dum de dum" and whatnot during the battles. I had to apologize to the people (not so into SC as me) who I showed the finals to.

Third, the actual production was dismal. No good fillers, poor graphical presentation, awful sound. They even messed up the overlay in the last game (it showed sOs's supply as Innovation's, and vice versa). This is supposed to be the premier event and yet it was god awful.

The games were nice, though. Watched every single one of them despite knowing the results.
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