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On June 09 2013 22:37 TheShimmy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 22:29 Epamynondas wrote:On June 09 2013 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend wasnt that said about sc2? I have no idea about how it was with bw, but from what I've heard it's gotten way better with sc2? As in we don't have to throw a party every time a foreigner takes a game off a korean. Maybe not in WCS America or WCS EU, but in old GSL's (old? Like three years ago. Wow has SC2 really been out this long???) Naniwa and other foreigners who could advance were the white man's King of Kings in starcraft. In BW there was a similar trend. Foreigners like Grrr (eSports hall of famer) and Idra had success with Koreans but eventually the Korean dominance takes over. More to the point, when Thorzain won a game in Proleague we did indeed throw a party.
That is not in the "old GSL's" or 3 years ago for that matter. In the beggining you had Jinro and Idra going far, that was something like 3 years ago 
Then there was Huk...after that Naniwa. And even now, sometimes you get a win from a korean. Its still better than it was in BW.
Also Idra had no success with koreans in bw. He was on Estro and CJ and was good in foreigner terms but Im not sure you can say he had success in bw with koreans.
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On June 09 2013 22:49 KobraKay wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 22:37 TheShimmy wrote:On June 09 2013 22:29 Epamynondas wrote:On June 09 2013 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend wasnt that said about sc2? I have no idea about how it was with bw, but from what I've heard it's gotten way better with sc2? As in we don't have to throw a party every time a foreigner takes a game off a korean. Maybe not in WCS America or WCS EU, but in old GSL's (old? Like three years ago. Wow has SC2 really been out this long???) Naniwa and other foreigners who could advance were the white man's King of Kings in starcraft. In BW there was a similar trend. Foreigners like Grrr (eSports hall of famer) and Idra had success with Koreans but eventually the Korean dominance takes over. More to the point, when Thorzain won a game in Proleague we did indeed throw a party. That is not in the "old GSL's" or 3 years ago for that matter. In the beggining you had Jinro and Idra going far, that was something like 3 years ago Then there was Huk...after that Naniwa. And even now, sometimes you get a win from a korean. Its still better than it was in BW. Also Idra had no success with koreans in bw. He was on Estro and CJ and was good in foreigner terms but Im not sure you can say he had success in bw with koreans.
People forget guillaume patry and bertand gospellier
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On June 09 2013 22:13 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 22:10 Mariosatr wrote:On June 09 2013 20:59 CR1PPLeR wrote:
I feel that Kings of Liberty (MVP and MC) will make a big comeback in WCS season 2 to claim back their thrones. An MVP vs MC WCS season 2 final would be epic. If NesTea breaks through in WCS AM too, Mvp NesTea MC top 3 would be epic. Sadly, unlike Mvp and to some extent MC, NesTea does not seem to have the ability to pull off runs out of his ass and remind everyone to not doubt.
Hard to blame Nestea. He's old. He falls asleep during games x(
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On June 09 2013 22:20 Godwrath wrote:
No VODS ?
Nvm found them, would be nice to update the OP with them.
Could you pass the link?
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On June 09 2013 22:51 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 22:49 KobraKay wrote:On June 09 2013 22:37 TheShimmy wrote:On June 09 2013 22:29 Epamynondas wrote:On June 09 2013 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend wasnt that said about sc2? I have no idea about how it was with bw, but from what I've heard it's gotten way better with sc2? As in we don't have to throw a party every time a foreigner takes a game off a korean. Maybe not in WCS America or WCS EU, but in old GSL's (old? Like three years ago. Wow has SC2 really been out this long???) Naniwa and other foreigners who could advance were the white man's King of Kings in starcraft. In BW there was a similar trend. Foreigners like Grrr (eSports hall of famer) and Idra had success with Koreans but eventually the Korean dominance takes over. More to the point, when Thorzain won a game in Proleague we did indeed throw a party. That is not in the "old GSL's" or 3 years ago for that matter. In the beggining you had Jinro and Idra going far, that was something like 3 years ago Then there was Huk...after that Naniwa. And even now, sometimes you get a win from a korean. Its still better than it was in BW. Also Idra had no success with koreans in bw. He was on Estro and CJ and was good in foreigner terms but Im not sure you can say he had success in bw with koreans. People forget guillaume patry and bertand gospellier
True. Those are names that actually had success with koreans in BW.
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atm you can even dl the gomtv vods for free...
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So who do you think is the most surprising player of the tournament? I personally would have to go with Mvp. He hasn't been that great in recent times and he qualified through EU, which should be an easy region when compared to KR. Beside that he even made it to top 4, which I hoped, but certainly didn't expect.
Innovation's POV almost gave me a seizure. 
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On June 09 2013 23:03 Bunn wrote:
So who do you think is the most surprising player of the tournament? I personally would have to go with Mvp. He hasn't been that great in recent times and he qualified through EU, which should be an easy region when compared to KR. Beside that he even made it to top 4, which I hoped, but certainly didn't expect.
Of course MVP. He also managed to get 2 matches from Innovation when SoS didnt manage to even get 1. He showed everyone that he is not done yet. I am looking forward to MC comeback who hasn't even got health problems.
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Where's the video with Innovation's POV?
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does anybody know when season 2 codes S starts?
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On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend
I like it the way it is. It's better than in BW atm. If sc3 is a game where the hardest working players don't win, then it won't be a game that i like to watch.
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Wow I just watched the first semi final, and is it me or was the english cast terrible ? Too many casters, fooling around, not commenting the screen viewers were seeing. It looked like some of them couldn't properly see the game itself. It sounded completly off and weird.
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On June 09 2013 23:16 JyB wrote:
Wow I just watched the first semi final, and is it me or was the english cast terrible ? Too many casters, fooling around, not commenting the screen viewers were seeing. It looked like some of them couldn't properly see the game itself. It sounded completly off and weird.
See the following post:
On June 09 2013 21:15 Epamynondas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 21:10 SoSexy wrote:
I have to say that I'm very disappointed by the casting. Just finished watching the final vods and the commentary was very unprofessional overall, full with terrible jokes and too much random talk. I was gonna say that, but then I realized the vods avaliable right now are from the OSL2 channel i.e. secondary casting. So it's to be expected that they are more chill.
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On June 09 2013 23:09 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
Where's the video with Innovation's POV?
On June 09 2013 21:19 F u r u y a wrote:INnoVation point of view! VOD @ 6h44m15sNote: Sometimes the VOD loads without audio. Refresh until it works, or remove the timestamp and go to the time manually.
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On June 09 2013 23:15 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend I like it the way it is. It's better than in BW atm. If sc3 is a game where the hardest working players don't win, then it won't be a game that i like to watch.
Even foreigners who are willing to work as hard as Koreans are (I would think Naniwa is an example) can't reach the level of top Koreans right now because the Korean scene has infrastructure (here we go again!) that is better prepared for training players. I think in the future the gap may narrow if Western teams work together to provide a better training environment for players.
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Is the VOD up yet for the finals?
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This link reeeaaaally needs to be stickied somewhere or something.
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really glad he took the championship 
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I hate sos for making the finals so boring
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