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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 13:02:43
June 09 2013 13:01 GMT
#7461
Nothing's going to reverse the trend till the gaming culture and infrastructure of the West matches that of Korea's.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 09 2013 13:04 GMT
#7462
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

wasnt that said about sc2?
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
June 09 2013 13:04 GMT
#7463
On June 09 2013 21:53 pivor wrote:
Fuck you innovation, terran gets nerfs now .


Atleast it should be bio that gets nerfed, maybe mech might even get a buff :p
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Lephex
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany153 Posts
June 09 2013 13:05 GMT
#7464
Where to see the normal vods with good casting? 3am was a little to late for me, hpe they will be up soon.
There are three types of people in this world: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who wonder what happened.
Nukid
Profile Joined April 2010
United States240 Posts
June 09 2013 13:08 GMT
#7465
Congratulation Innovation
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
June 09 2013 13:10 GMT
#7466
I'm really looking forward to Season 2 of WCS. The dust has now settled and people and players know what to expect. With the foreigners getting more exposure to playing against Korean players, their play should also improve for a bit more even contest. But for now, I can’t see a foreigner winning WCS.

Go StarTale.Life!!!
....
JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
June 09 2013 13:10 GMT
#7467
Wasn't there a big annoucement by blizzard that all VODs are now free for everyone ? What is up with the VODs ?
Such a disappointment.
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
June 09 2013 13:10 GMT
#7468
On June 09 2013 20:59 CR1PPLeR wrote:
I feel that Kings of Liberty (MVP and MC) will make a big comeback in WCS season 2 to claim back their thrones. An MVP vs MC WCS season 2 final would be epic.

If NesTea breaks through in WCS AM too, Mvp NesTea MC top 3 would be epic.
A mind sharper than any blade.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
June 09 2013 13:13 GMT
#7469
On June 09 2013 22:10 Mariosatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 20:59 CR1PPLeR wrote:
I feel that Kings of Liberty (MVP and MC) will make a big comeback in WCS season 2 to claim back their thrones. An MVP vs MC WCS season 2 final would be epic.

If NesTea breaks through in WCS AM too, Mvp NesTea MC top 3 would be epic.


Sadly, unlike Mvp and to some extent MC, NesTea does not seem to have the ability to pull off runs out of his ass and remind everyone to not doubt.
FHC Nex
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria44 Posts
June 09 2013 13:20 GMT
#7470
Can we see the games somewhere, a rebroadcast maybe? I spent the whole night watching the semi's so when they announced that the finals will be 2 hours after MVP vs Innovation I went to bed.
"It seems that whenever a Terran wins its because "Terran OP" not because the player played well. "Terran OP" has been around since beta and its became an excuse for losses"
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 13:23:42
June 09 2013 13:20 GMT
#7471
No VODS ?

Nvm found them, would be nice to update the OP with them.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 13:24:52
June 09 2013 13:24 GMT
#7472
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

Just imagine.

BW fans hating on SC3 and SC2.
SC2 fans hating on SC3 and BW.

TL forums will blow up.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 09 2013 13:25 GMT
#7473
Glad I didn't stay up for the finals. What were the games? Cheese?
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
June 09 2013 13:29 GMT
#7474
On June 09 2013 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

wasnt that said about sc2?

I have no idea about how it was with bw, but from what I've heard it's gotten way better with sc2? As in we don't have to throw a party every time a foreigner takes a game off a korean.
crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
June 09 2013 13:29 GMT
#7475
Great semis, don't think I'll bother watching the finals now that I see the result. Kind of an expected result too

Ahh, MVP got so close to actually beating bogus.. Would have been so sweet. At least he made a good showing so that was really nice to see.
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
June 09 2013 13:33 GMT
#7476
Innovation is the world champion. About.. Damn.. Time..
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
June 09 2013 13:37 GMT
#7477
On June 09 2013 22:29 Epamynondas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:55 Al Bundy wrote:
The thng that saddens me the most is that foreigners had about 0% chance of getting 1st place... Well, maybe starcraft 3 will reverse the trend

wasnt that said about sc2?

I have no idea about how it was with bw, but from what I've heard it's gotten way better with sc2? As in we don't have to throw a party every time a foreigner takes a game off a korean.


Maybe not in WCS America or WCS EU, but in old GSL's (old? Like three years ago. Wow has SC2 really been out this long???) Naniwa and other foreigners who could advance were the white man's King of Kings in starcraft. In BW there was a similar trend. Foreigners like Grrr (eSports hall of famer) and Idra had success with Koreans but eventually the Korean dominance takes over. More to the point, when Thorzain won a game in Proleague we did indeed throw a party.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
June 09 2013 13:40 GMT
#7478
I have the feeling that after the RO8 of this last GSL/WCS and then the WCS finals (who were basically a walkover for the winner of the korean event, except Symbol who had a very tough group), people have automatically treated every other korean player as being inferior although we didn't see any of them play in individual league for so long now because of how few tournaments there are. At the same time, this is still the beginning of HOTS and the game is changing a lot, there could be some serious new contenders now. Even Life has been qualified as in bad shape because he lost two series to Innovation and Parting.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think that the level of skill of the winners of the korean event is obviously a thousand times better than the other, we hype them as being so good for being twice in a row in the RO4 but we didn't bring any new player to prevent them aside from Mvp. I am very excited for the OSL to see if the same players are going to shine or if we are going to have some new very good talent.
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
June 09 2013 13:43 GMT
#7479
Gratz to INnoVation! Bring on Season 2!
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 13:44:02
June 09 2013 13:43 GMT
#7480
The grand finals were really entertaining despite the one-sidedness
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