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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#1141
On June 02 2013 05:44 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:43 garbanzo wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:43 Zarahtra wrote:
isn't +1 attack better than +1 armor? why is revival always starting +1 armor first?

Revival got both...

He started the +1 armor in both games like 10 sec earlier

I think it's not significant. It could just be that he can't afford both and he always clicks both evo chambers and then C, A, so the carapace gets researched first and he doesn't have enough for the attack.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#1142
Holy roach lines
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Somthing_clvr
Profile Joined February 2013
England31 Posts
June 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#1143
On June 02 2013 05:43 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:43 Somthing_clvr wrote:
are these all best of 5's?

yep


Thanks!
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 01 2013 20:47 GMT
#1144
On June 02 2013 05:46 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:45 Antylamon wrote:
Hmm... Still boring Roach vs. Roach. Are there any games after this or am I wasting my time?

crank vs alive
ro4 and finals are tomorrow i think.

Oooooh, definitely staying for that.

Ty
niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
June 01 2013 20:47 GMT
#1145
hit that R key!
Somthing_clvr
Profile Joined February 2013
England31 Posts
June 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1146
Did Axeltoss really just say 'the magic of ZvZ'...
ottosec
Profile Joined April 2013
505 Posts
June 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1147
Longest roach line ever?
SKT1-PartinG&Rain, MC
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1148
I don't know why Snute sticks with only one evo chamber. These battles would be less even if he was not behind on upgrades.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1149
Looks like Revival lost this with that bad timing attack.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1150
On June 02 2013 05:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Finals Day 1 Premier S1 2013
no (Z)Snute vs kr (Z)Revival
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Snute spawns in the bottom left
Revival spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
drones

4:00
gas for Snute

5:00
evo for Revival
Roach warren for Revival
2nd gas for Snute
Lair for Snute
4 gas for Revival
evo for Snute

6:00 +1 range attack for Snute
another gas for Snute
evo for Revival
Lair for Revival
3rd base for Snute in the center left

7:00
+1 carapace for revival
Roach speed for Snute
+1 range attack for Revival

8:00
Roach speed for Revival
3rd base for Revival
roaches coming out for both players

9:00 S 93 vs R 82
+2 range attack for Snute
overseers scout the mains of both players
+2 carapace for Revival

10:00 S 123 vs R 122
+2 carapace canceled and burrow research started
Revival moving along the top of the map
roaches engage outside the 3rd of Snute
Snute retreats to his 3rd base

11:00 S 152 vs R 148
Snute reengages the roaches of Revival as some more spawn for him
Revival trickling in roach reinforcements
both players back off and regroup
Revival ahead by 3 roaches
snute ahead by 4 drones

12:00 S 136 vs R 142
Revival goes infor another attack but Snute has a good defensive position
+2 range attack finishes for Snute
more roaches coming in for Revival
now Snute's reinforcements spawn

13:00 S 122 vs R 114
Snute is able to push back the attack of Revival with his reinforcements
Snute moving across the top of the map
more roaches spawn for Revival and Snute has to back off
+1 carapace for Snute

14:00 S 140 vs R 127
+2 range attack started for Revival
+2 carapace started for Revival

15:00 S 188 vs R 156
Hydralisk den for Revival
Snute is maxed vs 171 supply
Snute moving across the top of the map again
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krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
June 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1151
So mutas are obsolete in zvz now?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1152
I like revival's build more. i don't know how he does it, but every engagement doesn't seem too bad.. even if it starts the worst way possible.
The Bomber boy
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 01 2013 20:49 GMT
#1153
On June 02 2013 05:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Finals Day 1 Premier S1 2013
no (Z)Snute vs kr (Z)Revival
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Snute spawns in the bottom left
Revival spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
drones

4:00
gas for Snute

5:00
evo for Revival
Roach warren for Revival
2nd gas for Snute
Lair for Snute
4 gas for Revival
evo for Snute

+ Show Spoiler +
6:00 +1 range attack for Snute
another gas for Snute
evo for Revival
Lair for Revival
3rd base for Snute in the center left

7:00
+1 carapace for revival
Roach speed for Snute
+1 range attack for Revival

8:00
Roach speed for Revival
3rd base for Revival
roaches coming out for both players

9:00 S 93 vs R 82
+2 range attack for Snute
overseers scout the mains of both players
+2 carapace for Revival

10:00 S 123 vs R 122
+2 carapace canceled and burrow research started
Revival moving along the top of the map
roaches engage outside the 3rd of Snute
Snute retreats to his 3rd base


Dude, you have 40000 posts
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SeR3NiTy
Profile Joined March 2009
France206 Posts
June 01 2013 20:49 GMT
#1154
So roaches uh...
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
June 01 2013 20:49 GMT
#1155
On June 02 2013 05:48 garbanzo wrote:
I don't know why Snute sticks with only one evo chamber. These battles would be less even if he was not behind on upgrades.

It's the reason why he has so much roaches ... Less evos , less gazes mooooooaaaar roaches .
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
June 01 2013 20:49 GMT
#1156
This looks similar to the ZvZ at the start of WoL.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
June 01 2013 20:49 GMT
#1157
On June 02 2013 05:48 garbanzo wrote:
I don't know why Snute sticks with only one evo chamber. These battles would be less even if he was not behind on upgrades.


One evo openers means that you have more roaches and armor upgrades aren't that important for roaches.
hundred thousand krouner
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
June 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#1158
that last battle was hilarious, so many roaches
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#1159
On June 02 2013 05:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Finals Day 1 Premier S1 2013
no (Z)Snute vs kr (Z)Revival
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Snute spawns in the bottom left
Revival spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
drones

4:00
gas for Snute

5:00
evo for Revival
Roach warren for Revival
2nd gas for Snute
Lair for Snute
4 gas for Revival
evo for Snute

+ Show Spoiler +
6:00 +1 range attack for Snute
another gas for Snute
evo for Revival
Lair for Revival
3rd base for Snute in the center left

7:00
+1 carapace for revival
Roach speed for Snute
+1 range attack for Revival

8:00
Roach speed for Revival
3rd base for Revival
roaches coming out for both players

9:00 S 93 vs R 82
+2 range attack for Snute
overseers scout the mains of both players
+2 carapace for Revival

10:00 S 123 vs R 122
+2 carapace canceled and burrow research started
Revival moving along the top of the map
roaches engage outside the 3rd of Snute
Snute retreats to his 3rd base


Dude, you have 40000 posts

Welcome again to tournament threads
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
June 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#1160
worst matchup ever, no doubt
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
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