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DasHawk
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark362 Posts
June 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#1121
On June 02 2013 05:38 Sakkreth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:36 Incognoto wrote:
Oi, oi, stop hating players because their play isn't flash-like. ;(



I don't get ZvZ though. Roach vs Roach has to be the most BORING and VOLATILE way to approach this match up. Ling/Bling mirrors are fun, but meh @ this.


Roach vs roach volatile ?


LOL yeah dident agree with that quote either, roach matches are actualy properly the LEAST VOLATILE you can get in a ZvZ. But i agree thats its kinda boring. I dont mind it too much though, since its been quite some time since we've seen alot of it...
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#1122
On June 02 2013 05:40 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:34 RaiderRob wrote:
I often don't understand Snute's decisions.
Speaking of which, I'm zerg and I often watch zerg progamers do things that I can't explain and just seem so inefficient.

One recently reminded - zerg pro's often waste banelings on move command and miss excellent opportunities to kill SCVs. They just roll and roll, they go through a crowd of SCVs and keep rolling until some marines kill them safely. I've seen it done countless times. And I'm not talking about the zerg not controlling - you can see they control, they are looking at it, and they refuse to detonate just two banelings and kill 15 free SCVs, for example. I don't get it.

Yeah, sometimes I think some progamers don't know that you can manually detonate banelings.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 01 2013 20:42 GMT
#1123
On June 02 2013 05:40 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:34 RaiderRob wrote:
I often don't understand Snute's decisions.
Speaking of which, I'm zerg and I often watch zerg progamers do things that I can't explain and just seem so inefficient.

One recently reminded - zerg pro's often waste banelings on move command and miss excellent opportunities to kill SCVs. They just roll and roll, they go through a crowd of SCVs and keep rolling until some marines kill them safely. I've seen it done countless times. And I'm not talking about the zerg not controlling - you can see they control, they are looking at it, and they refuse to detonate just two banelings and kill 15 free SCVs, for example. I don't get it.

Probably because they were hoping for Marine kills over SCV kills which are much more important if you want to go for the kill.

That said, I would go for the SCVs.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
June 01 2013 20:42 GMT
#1124
On June 02 2013 05:38 Ysellian wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 02 2013 05:38 Gonozal wrote:
go europe! go! lets defend america!

[image loading]

well maybe that would have fit more to moonglade :D


I like how nonchalant the grandfather is.


I noticed that as well, that is hilarious, and actually such a good calm reaction.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
June 01 2013 20:42 GMT
#1125
I don't think they should use picture in picture, it distracts from the action on the main screen. I always see appreciation for MLG's attempt to innovate in this manner, so maybe I'm alone in this, but I just don't like it very much.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Somthing_clvr
Profile Joined February 2013
England31 Posts
June 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#1126
are these all best of 5's?
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#1127
isn't +1 attack better than +1 armor? why is revival always starting +1 armor first?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#1128
On June 02 2013 05:43 Somthing_clvr wrote:
are these all best of 5's?

yep
Moderatorlickypiddy
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
June 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#1129
the background music is too damn loud
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#1130
On June 02 2013 05:43 Zarahtra wrote:
isn't +1 attack better than +1 armor? why is revival always starting +1 armor first?

Revival got both...
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 01 2013 20:44 GMT
#1131
On June 02 2013 05:42 Grumbels wrote:
I don't think they should use picture in picture, it distracts from the action on the main screen. I always see appreciation for MLG's attempt to innovate in this manner, so maybe I'm alone in this, but I just don't like it very much.

It would do a lot better between the player cams.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 20:45:09
June 01 2013 20:44 GMT
#1132
On June 02 2013 05:43 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:43 Zarahtra wrote:
isn't +1 attack better than +1 armor? why is revival always starting +1 armor first?

Revival got both...

He started the +1 armor in both games like 10 sec earlier

In the other game it matters quite a lot tbh, as he was fighting with +1 armor +0 attack and +2 armor +1 attack.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 20:45:17
June 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#1133
On June 02 2013 05:43 Zarahtra wrote:
isn't +1 attack better than +1 armor? why is revival always starting +1 armor first?

i think armor is better because it costs more would make more sense
e:i am not a zerg though
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#1134
On June 02 2013 05:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Finals Day 1 Premier S1 2013
no (Z)Snute vs kr (Z)Revival
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Snute spawns in the bottom left
Revival spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
drones

4:00
gas for Snute

5:00
evo for Revival
Roach warren for Revival
2nd gas for Snute
Lair for Snute
4 gas for Revival
evo for Snute

6:00 +1 range attack for Snute
another gas for Snute
evo for Revival
Lair for Revival
3rd base for Snute in the center left

7:00
+1 carapace for revival
Roach speed for Snute
+1 range attack for Revival

8:00
Roach speed for Revival
3rd base for Revival
roaches coming out for both players

9:00 S 93 vs R 82
+2 range attack for Snute
overseers scout the mains of both players
+2 carapace for Revival

10:00 S 123 vs R 122
+2 carapace canceled and burrow research started
Revival moving along the top of the map
roaches engage outside the 3rd of Snute
Snute retreats to his 3rd base
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hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
June 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#1135
On June 02 2013 05:44 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:43 garbanzo wrote:
On June 02 2013 05:43 Zarahtra wrote:
isn't +1 attack better than +1 armor? why is revival always starting +1 armor first?

Revival got both...

He started the +1 armor in both games like 10 sec earlier


If he gets armor first then the two upgrades will finish closer together. Since armor costs more.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#1136
On June 02 2013 05:45 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:43 Zarahtra wrote:
isn't +1 attack better than +1 armor? why is revival always starting +1 armor first?

i think armor is better because it costs more would make more sense
e:i am not a zerg though

Well that's just because it effects both melee and ranged units, but there were no zlings so...
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
June 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#1137
Revival is not really adapting to Snute build . And his +2 attack is sooooo late .
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#1138
Hmm... Still boring Roach vs. Roach. Are there any games after this or am I wasting my time?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 20:46:34
June 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#1139
On June 02 2013 05:45 Antylamon wrote:
Hmm... Still boring Roach vs. Roach. Are there any games after this or am I wasting my time?

crank vs alive
ro4 and finals are tomorrow i think.
Moderatorlickypiddy
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
June 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#1140
maek roach
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
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