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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:41 opterown wrote: yeah but it was 3-0 pretty one-sided bad games the same is pretty true of mvp vs squirtle in season 2. I didn't think the games were bad either time, but I had a bunch of friends over and was actually starting to think of other shit to do since squirtle looked so shaken. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
But not when Soulkey played like shit Yeah. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 02 2013 22:00 lichter wrote: People think it was a suspicious throw because Innovation played bad But not when Soulkey played like shit Yeah. But Soulkey isn't the BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On June 02 2013 19:24 Algis wrote: If you are talking about early game, they do use that first techlab for stim, right? Not that getting a tank early is a bad idea, just saying that u oversimplified it. That might be, yep. But the metagame will probably figure out those timing, people were delaying stim for combat shield pushes, so why shouldn't they do it for a tank if they scout 2base play? When it's fully situated roach/bane pressure as in game 4(or 5? not sure), you should have the time to delay stim for a tank (yeah, oversimplifying again  ). | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On June 02 2013 22:06 Zealously wrote: But Soulkey isn't the BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME I really thought the Soulkey vs. sOs series was scripted or something because of the teamkill. I have never ever seen so many so bad games from pro gamers. I'm not sure about that, because I'm not really into those theories. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 02 2013 22:14 boxerfred wrote: I really thought the Soulkey vs. sOs series was scripted or something because of the teamkill. I have never ever seen so many so bad games from pro gamers. I'm not sure about that, because I'm not really into those theories. Team kills usually end up being stupid games because they know each others' strategies/weaknesses/preferences, practice with each other and prepare builds with each other. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 02 2013 22:53 lichter wrote: Team kills usually end up being stupid games because they know each others' strategies/weaknesses/preferences, practice with each other and prepare builds with each other. ganzi vs. taeja in code A was pretty cool haha | ||
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ObeseHydra
Brazil196 Posts
Is that dificult to acept bad decision making and momentum shift? And Soulkey must be a hell of an actor for showing that emotion after taking the finals, don't he? Just give him the Oscar along with the trophy! It was a good series. Not the best (by far!) skillwise, but very thrilling. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On June 02 2013 22:06 Zealously wrote: But Soulkey isn't the BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME Best RTS* PLAYER OF ALL TIME | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
Innovation 136 supply, 77 SCV, 20 rines, 8 mines, 3 marauders, 4 medivacs Soulkey 150 supply, 80 drones, 60 zerglings, 11 mutas, 12 banes 3 base vs 4 base. Innovation lost momentum, lost map control, but not the game. It was very difficult spot to be in, but it still was doable. Also those mines killed all those zerglings very soon after. | ||
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
On June 02 2013 23:13 NightOfTheDead wrote: After rewatching the game 7. Status after Innovation lost 3 medivacs: Innovation 136 supply, 77 SCV, 20 rines, 8 mines, 3 marauders, 4 medivacs Soulkey 150 supply, 80 drones, 60 zerglings, 11 mutas, 12 banes 3 base vs 4 base. Innovation lost momentum, lost map control, but not the game. It was very difficult spot to be in, but it still was doable. Also those mines killed all those zerglings very soon after. I think the main problem was that Innovation had nothing in his main to defend the mutas and didnt repair his 3rd. It seemed he wasn't sure were to defend and therefor lost his main AND his third at the same time. After that, he had no production and no income left. The reason why the drop was such a fail (imo), is that he could have had these units defending his 3rd easily while his MM defend the main. Or they could have saved some time for Innovation to build turrets in his main... | ||
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Prince_Stranger
Kazakhstan762 Posts
Why everyone is constantly analyzing the same things again and again? Everyone expected Innovation to be winner and now so sad that trying to find all mistakes in his game. I expected Soulkey 4 - 0 and was curious that it was only 4 - 3. He is great, macro monster. Soulkey is the champion! | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On June 02 2013 23:13 NightOfTheDead wrote: After rewatching the game 7. Status after Innovation lost 3 medivacs: Innovation 136 supply, 77 SCV, 20 rines, 8 mines, 3 marauders, 4 medivacs Soulkey 150 supply, 80 drones, 60 zerglings, 11 mutas, 12 banes 3 base vs 4 base. Innovation lost momentum, lost map control, but not the game. It was very difficult spot to be in, but it still was doable. Also those mines killed all those zerglings very soon after. Considering that Soulkey attacked immediately after he took out the medivacs (to capitalize on the opportunity), and that's when he started doing massive amounts of damage that very quickly led to his victory, I would certainly say losing those medivacs lost him the game. | ||
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
On June 03 2013 00:41 Prince_Stranger wrote: Soulkey won. He is the champion! Why everyone is constantly analyzing the same things again and again? Everyone expected Innovation to be winner and now so sad that trying to find all mistakes in his game. I expected Soulkey 4 - 0 and was curious that it was only 4 - 3. He is great, macro monster. Soulkey is the champion! Why do you read and write on a forum based website if you don't like people to write there? LR threads are there to discuss and analyze the games. Oh wait, the favourite lost, let's all stop talking about anything and allow only people to say "SK is great, he is the champion, he won, he is the champion" I am sure, people will understand the game and gamechanging situations better from such analysis | ||
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Prince_Stranger
Kazakhstan762 Posts
On June 03 2013 01:05 Sewi wrote: Why do you read and write on a forum based website if you don't like people to write there? LR threads are there to discuss and analyze the games. Oh wait, the favourite lost, let's all stop talking about anything and allow only people to say "SK is great, he is the champion, he won, he is the champion" I am sure, people will understand the game and gamechanging situations better from such analysis I just think that if Innovation had won this, people wouldn't talk about Soulkey's mistake so much. | ||
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Gorlin
United States2753 Posts
On June 02 2013 22:54 opterown wrote: ganzi vs. taeja in code A was pretty cool haha Wow throwback, yeah that was awesome. Man, Ganzi vs MKP after that was actually a pretty incredible final in my opinion. A ton of crazy games, and that game 7 on Metalopolis was one of the craaaaaaaaaziest games I had ever seen. Insanely back and forth, ~30 minute game where both players were essentially on one base the whole time. I don't think the supply for either player ever got over 100. Was so sik. | ||
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
On June 03 2013 02:11 Prince_Stranger wrote: I just think that if Innovation had won this, people wouldn't talk about Soulkey's mistake so much. Yes, I actually agree. But I don't think it's a problem. People wonder why the favourite didn't win and try to find out. If the underdog loses people just say that he is the lesser player. Not much to analyze there. Although a lot of people are QQing in LR threads, I don't think analyzing mistakes is part of any kind of QQ. | ||
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-Kaiser-
Canada932 Posts
On June 02 2013 14:46 1raxexpand wrote: Didn't matter, it benefited him regardless. Ahahaha, the most brickheadedly determined balance wine. "BL-Infestor was OP when Life won those games." "But Life never went BL-Infestor." "That's what gave him an advantage!" | ||
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