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On May 26 2013 23:10 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 23:09 ACrow wrote:On May 26 2013 23:08 Makro wrote:On May 26 2013 23:05 Nachtwind wrote:On May 26 2013 23:03 Sated wrote:On May 26 2013 23:01 crappen wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 Yonnua wrote: What the f-? Why is TLO suddenly being so bm to Lucifron? I didnt see this as BM, more like confidence, telling everyone he got it back Explain to me how "manner" Hatches and "manner" MULEs are any different to typing "GTFO" into the chat... Sometimes it´s equaly BM to stay in the game when you clearly lost. Me not know if that was the case in the last game though. i think we need a special aligulac to measure the level of bm of each action With a rating ranging from Grubby to Idra. Naniwa BM > Idra BM.
Naniwa is on his own level of awkward BM, not fair.
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Canada16217 Posts
On May 26 2013 23:10 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 23:09 ACrow wrote:On May 26 2013 23:08 Makro wrote:On May 26 2013 23:05 Nachtwind wrote:On May 26 2013 23:03 Sated wrote:On May 26 2013 23:01 crappen wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 Yonnua wrote: What the f-? Why is TLO suddenly being so bm to Lucifron? I didnt see this as BM, more like confidence, telling everyone he got it back Explain to me how "manner" Hatches and "manner" MULEs are any different to typing "GTFO" into the chat... Sometimes it´s equaly BM to stay in the game when you clearly lost. Me not know if that was the case in the last game though. i think we need a special aligulac to measure the level of bm of each action With a rating ranging from Grubby to Idra. Naniwa BM > Idra BM. I would agree with that ^^
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On May 26 2013 23:10 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 23:09 Sated wrote:On May 26 2013 23:08 Sewi wrote:On May 26 2013 23:05 Waxangel wrote:On May 26 2013 23:04 KelsierSC wrote:On May 26 2013 23:03 Yonnua wrote:On May 26 2013 23:01 crappen wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 Yonnua wrote: What the f-? Why is TLO suddenly being so bm to Lucifron? I didnt see this as BM, more like confidence, telling everyone he got it back Even if that's the case, it's really vile to lucifron who's never done anything to TLO. I was rooting for TLO until I saw that but I don't want to see him in Korea if this is the attitude he's going to bring. You don't watch a lot of bomber do you. It is just a bit of good fun in game. Outside of game TLO is very manner and respects his opponents. well, some people don't like bomber for this reason, too it's fine that we like/dislike certain things about players, if we were all uniform we'd be pretty boring fans :D Thats true. And we would have nothing to discuss here on TL :p Anyways, I dont think people should take this to seriously. TLO is always very respectful towards his opponents and I'm pretty sure he did this because of the rally mistake and didnt plan to be bm. He could have sent his drones back to mining ofc but I wouldnt overreact and call TLO bm I don't think that TLO is a particularly BM player, but that was BM. In game actions as BM are very different to Naniwa/Idra BM. They are meant to try and make your opponent leave the game, not to insult/humiliate.
I don't know, when i dance units or throw mules i do it to humilliate and rejoice in my victory. My opponent leaving at that point is a plus.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
01:00 - Rax first followed by gas
02:00 - TLO expands pool reaper production begins
03:00 - 2 queens from TLO CC begins 2nd reaper
04:00 - factory from Lucifron Reaper scouts but lings are out so no drone kills should be allowed 1 gas from TLO reactor from Luci
05:00 - reaper goes down!! good play from TLO 2nd CC for Luci 2 more queens for TLO 3rd hatch from TLO towards the opponents base
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United States33075 Posts
that was a pretty bad reaper start D:
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On May 26 2013 23:10 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 23:10 Fusilero wrote:On May 26 2013 23:09 ACrow wrote:On May 26 2013 23:08 Makro wrote:On May 26 2013 23:05 Nachtwind wrote:On May 26 2013 23:03 Sated wrote:On May 26 2013 23:01 crappen wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 Yonnua wrote: What the f-? Why is TLO suddenly being so bm to Lucifron? I didnt see this as BM, more like confidence, telling everyone he got it back Explain to me how "manner" Hatches and "manner" MULEs are any different to typing "GTFO" into the chat... Sometimes it´s equaly BM to stay in the game when you clearly lost. Me not know if that was the case in the last game though. i think we need a special aligulac to measure the level of bm of each action With a rating ranging from Grubby to Idra. Naniwa BM > Idra BM. I would agree with that ^^
Can remove BM from that sentence to the effect!
Where is combat-ex level of desperation bm? Slightly above the most BM?
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On May 26 2013 23:07 xN.07)MaK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 23:04 rothsbury wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 DidYuhim wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 Bagi wrote:On May 26 2013 22:54 LimitSEA wrote: Yayyy. Another hell bat drop. I'm incredibly surprised to see this in a match that involves Terran.
:| "Yayyy. Another marine/marauder drop. I'm incredibly surprised to see this in a match that involves Terran." Why are people allowed to drop bio but not hellbats? Because people don't want to learn to deal with drops. Or they can't deal with drops. Eh hellbat drops are pretty strong given how cheap hellbats are. Even blizzard made them the only 2 supply unit to take up 4 medivac spaces because they were too effective. 100 mins for lots of HP, lots of AOE damage and ability to be healed. I mean they're obviously not so OP that any of the matchups are imbalanced, but I think they pack a bit too much bang for their buck. But then again, you don't see Ts dominating the scene, so it's compensated somewhere else. Maybe if you nerf them, you see no Ts in the RO8 of any major tournament. If something 'works' don't change it. There's a difference between a race being imbalanced and a particular unit being OP. There is a write up on TL on this theme:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Game_Balance
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Germany I love you, TLO is love you. Win This.
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On May 26 2013 23:12 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 23:07 xN.07)MaK wrote:On May 26 2013 23:04 rothsbury wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 DidYuhim wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 Bagi wrote:On May 26 2013 22:54 LimitSEA wrote: Yayyy. Another hell bat drop. I'm incredibly surprised to see this in a match that involves Terran.
:| "Yayyy. Another marine/marauder drop. I'm incredibly surprised to see this in a match that involves Terran." Why are people allowed to drop bio but not hellbats? Because people don't want to learn to deal with drops. Or they can't deal with drops. Eh hellbat drops are pretty strong given how cheap hellbats are. Even blizzard made them the only 2 supply unit to take up 4 medivac spaces because they were too effective. 100 mins for lots of HP, lots of AOE damage and ability to be healed. I mean they're obviously not so OP that any of the matchups are imbalanced, but I think they pack a bit too much bang for their buck. But then again, you don't see Ts dominating the scene, so it's compensated somewhere else. Maybe if you nerf them, you see no Ts in the RO8 of any major tournament. If something 'works' don't change it. There's a difference between a race being imbalanced and a particular unit being OP. There is a write up on TL on this theme: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Game_Balance
But hellbats are not OP. Stop crying for fucks sake.
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TLO learned to build a roach warren against hellions, yay! He can win this now, yippieeee
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On May 26 2013 23:09 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 23:05 LimitSEA wrote:On May 26 2013 23:03 Big J wrote:On May 26 2013 23:02 LimitSEA wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 Bagi wrote:On May 26 2013 22:54 LimitSEA wrote: Yayyy. Another hell bat drop. I'm incredibly surprised to see this in a match that involves Terran.
:| "Yayyy. Another marine/marauder drop. I'm incredibly surprised to see this in a match that involves Terran." Why are people allowed to drop bio but not hellbats? Hellbats are bio, silly. And it's not a balance whine, Hellbat drops just don't feel as entertaining as marine drops. And seeing them all the time in every match up bores me to no end. what's so much more fun in marine drops? The fact that they kill buildings as well? Yes. Marine drops can be done extraordinarily well on two or three fronts, sniping tech, hatches or just drawing armies out of position. Hellbats drops, while possibly multipronged, are more just dropping into mineral lines and burning workers. It's not as exciting as watching someone who's incredibly good at multipronged drop harass. Hellbat drops are arguably more interesting imo as they can be hugely successful or just a huge fail depending on the players micro. Marine drops will kill X amount of workers or a tech building each time, microing the drop and against it usually matters less in the outcome. Well I suppose it's entirely subjective, but I don't agree that a Marine drop will kill X amount of workers or a tech building each time. Good drop defense in either case will lead to the drop being ineffective, and I feel like there's more potential with marine drops.
But yeah, as I said, it's really subjective I suppose. I'm not going to criticize you for not liking what I like.
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On May 26 2013 23:12 Hypemeup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 23:10 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 26 2013 23:10 Fusilero wrote:On May 26 2013 23:09 ACrow wrote:On May 26 2013 23:08 Makro wrote:On May 26 2013 23:05 Nachtwind wrote:On May 26 2013 23:03 Sated wrote:On May 26 2013 23:01 crappen wrote:On May 26 2013 23:00 Yonnua wrote: What the f-? Why is TLO suddenly being so bm to Lucifron? I didnt see this as BM, more like confidence, telling everyone he got it back Explain to me how "manner" Hatches and "manner" MULEs are any different to typing "GTFO" into the chat... Sometimes it´s equaly BM to stay in the game when you clearly lost. Me not know if that was the case in the last game though. i think we need a special aligulac to measure the level of bm of each action With a rating ranging from Grubby to Idra. Naniwa BM > Idra BM. I would agree with that ^^ Can remove BM from that sentence to the effect! Where is combat-ex level of desperation bm? Slightly above the most BM? Hmmmm, stream sniper BM is pretty strong but it's always in a casual setting nanidra often has obligations to behave so their BM in defiance of expectations if definite boost to their level of BM I think it goes. Idra < Stream snipers < Naniwa.
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only bfh or is it full on mech?
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Woahhhh, solid defense from TLO. And if he gets a nydus up, this could be huge!
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Lucifron is in terrible trouble
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On May 26 2013 23:11 KelsierSC wrote:01:00 - Rax first followed by gas 02:00 - TLO expands pool reaper production begins 03:00 - 2 queens from TLO CC begins 2nd reaper 04:00 - factory from Lucifron Reaper scouts but lings are out so no drone kills should be allowed 1 gas from TLO reactor from Luci 05:00 - reaper goes down!! good play from TLO 2nd CC for Luci 2 more queens for TLO 3rd hatch from TLO towards the opponents base
06:00 - speed for TLO 2nd factory hellions being produced triple gas from TLO
07:00 - Lair and Roach Warren Blue flame from TLO Good reaper hellion harassment from Lucifron
08:00 - couple of roaches for safety more hellions being made NYDUS WORM Double Armoury
09:00 - TLO sees the blue flame but about 10-15 hellions run up!!! TLO BLOCKS THE MAIN he forces it away roach speed NYDUS GOES DOWN OUTSIDE OF THE NATURAL OF LUCI
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