On May 27 2013 06:42 Dodgin wrote:
By the way, I believe this tournament concluded without showing even one ZvZ match.

Must be why it was so successful

You are correct!

In Premier:

Ro32: 5 TvT, 3 PvP, 0 ZvZ
Ro16: 4 TvT, 1 PvP, 0 ZvZ
Ro8: 1 TvT
Rest: No Mirrors
Total: 10 TvT, 4 PvP, 0 ZvZ

Only 14 mirrors out of 70 games is amazing, considering we would have seen 23.65 mirrors if it would have been random. And most of these mirrors were at least decent (:

EDIT: The lack of ZvZ could also be the reason we have this many zergs in the final though, the swarm didn't eliminate any of their rival broods either :c

Wintex

Norway16846 Posts

May 26 2013 22:30 GMT

#7066

On May 27 2013 07:17 giririsss wrote:

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Where from?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160901337716&var=460124655524

have fun

farnham

1378 Posts

May 26 2013 22:31 GMT

#7067

On May 27 2013 06:58 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:

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Arch rivals. No one loves protoss sadly :[

im waiting for fall

Fischbacher

Canada666 Posts

May 26 2013 22:37 GMT

#7068

On May 27 2013 06:15 Zealously wrote:

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On May 27 2013 06:10 Fischbacher wrote:

On May 27 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:

On May 27 2013 06:02 Crownlol wrote:

On May 27 2013 06:00 Ventris wrote:

On May 27 2013 05:59 Fluffboll wrote:

On May 27 2013 05:55 Crownlol wrote:

On May 27 2013 05:55 Reptilia wrote:

On May 27 2013 05:50 Fischbacher wrote:

On May 27 2013 05:50 eronica wrote:
People complaining WCS EU having korean, when the purpose of not having region locked just means that WCS EU is not about nationality but just 1 of the 3 way of going into WCS WORLD....

So why do they call the guy that won WCS Europe the European champion if it wasn't meant to find the best player(s) from Europe?

It is called Europe, because it is played in Europe.

Uh, no, it isn't.

It isn't played in Europe?

Please continue, you are most entertaining to read together with that Benjamin guy

Yeah, i could have sworn Cologne was in Europe. Must be something with my eyes.

Woosh. My statement was made concerning the title of WCS EU. It is called the European championship because it's supposed to be the champion of European players. No one cares where the people are when they play- look at WCS AM, the first rounds were played online with people literally playing from Korea.

Actually, it is called WCS EU because it determines the champion of the European region by playing out the Ro16 and forward in Europe. It doesn't have anything to do with who lives where or who is a citizen of what country, the only thing that matters is that the players are in Europe for the live rounds. You might want it to be otherwise, but that's not the case.

So Spain is the Austrian, Swiss, South African, Polish and Ukrainian Football champion because they played all the matches of their Euro / World Cup victories there?

The fact that all the games are played in Europe doesn't imply that it makes any sense to declare the winner European champion. WCS Europe champion, sure, but saying that someone is champion of a certain region implies that the participants are from (or has significant ties) to said region. Spending two weeks in Europe hardly makes you European.

(I don't really have any issues with Koreans taking part in WCS EU or AM - except that I am really sad to see so many players give up GSL / OSL - but saying that the winners of WCS EU or AM are the European or American champion strikes me as somewhat ridiculous)

Here are Blizzard's thoughts on the matter. And differentiating "European champion" and "WCS Europe champion" is a matter of semantics - if you win the European section of the series, you're the champion of the European section of the tournament. You're not a European champion, certainly, but you're the champion of the European tournament. One rolls off the tongue, one doesn't. I think that's all there is to the matter.

I guess I feel like its more than semantics. Calling someone a European / Asian / American / African champion is something that I feel ought to be meaningful. I don't think its a title that ought to be thrown around casually.

shid0x

Korea (South)5014 Posts

May 26 2013 22:46 GMT

#7069

The wing of the swarm,LGIMMvp.
Congratz.

Also proud of Stephanooooooooooo !

vesicular

United States1310 Posts

May 26 2013 22:51 GMT

#7070

Here I thought the finals would have an event like GSL. Surprised it's already over. :/

Havik_

United States5585 Posts

May 26 2013 22:53 GMT

#7071

Mvp shitting on everyone....

Just like the good ol days :p

Derez

Netherlands6068 Posts

May 26 2013 22:54 GMT

#7072

On May 27 2013 07:51 vesicular wrote:
Here I thought the finals would have an event like GSL. Surprised it's already over. :/

I'm sure if ESL feels they can hold a bigger event and break even through ticket sales they'll try to make it happen, but that seems way to risky for season 1.

Rewatched part of the games and I'm really surprised how much confidence Mvp had in his mech play. It really hasn't been impressing me at all in HotS so far, but maybe there's something I'm missing.

Oh not sure if its here yet, updated MVP smile:
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shid0x

Korea (South)5014 Posts

May 26 2013 22:56 GMT

#7073

On May 27 2013 07:51 vesicular wrote:
Here I thought the finals would have an event like GSL. Surprised it's already over. :/

I was a bit disappointed too.

ESL had an awesome production,good quality and some content but i wish it would have got more offline spectators seats (i mean there was 130k people on the stream ffs,we could easily have fit 3000 people (Iron squid 2 wasn't as big (only 50k) and yet it had 3000 + offline spectators )

Meridian

Sweden11 Posts

May 26 2013 22:59 GMT

#7074

Hm. Korean winning WCS Europe. Did I miss something here? What's the point of actually naming the different regions when anyone can play wherever they want to. So ridiculously pointless.

largehadroncollider

United States88 Posts

May 26 2013 23:03 GMT

#7075

On May 27 2013 07:53 Havik_ wrote:
Mvp shitting on everyone....

Just like the good ol days :p

w00t!!

Unfortunately he can only do it outside Korea. I doubt if he can still go toe to toe with the current KR scene.

kyllinghest

Norway1607 Posts

May 26 2013 23:34 GMT

#7076

On May 27 2013 07:59 Meridian wrote:
Hm. Korean winning WCS Europe. Did I miss something here? What's the point of actually naming the different regions when anyone can play wherever they want to. So ridiculously pointless.

The tournament was in Europe, so very accesible for europeans, which really showed with the roster in the ro8. Not pointless at all!