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On May 22 2013 09:46 Doodsmack wrote:
Having watched the season progress as far as it has, it's really clear to me that WCS AM and EU need to be region locked. Having this random group of Koreans playing...if they're that good, they should just be playing in Korea, to try to be the best. It's basically meaningless to be the winner among the random group of Koreans that joined WCS AM. And to have a translator for the post-game interview because this guy can't even speak English even though WCS is split into different regions...lol it's pretty fucking retarded. Blizzard badly needs to make the next WCS season region-locked.
Agreed, but I fear the vocal minority of foreigners that seem obsessed with getting Koreans in all of the WCS "regions" are going to validate Blizzards excuse of "we just want the best players, regardless of region" . . . which is of course nonsense that they used to cover up their lack of planning and foresight.
Blizzard originally wanted a region lock, which is obvious, but now their egos are at stake and I fear they might just stick with the WCS Korea and WCS Korea 2 (America) forever. Especially if people keep posting nonsense defending the Korean's participation in the other regions as "I just wanna see the best games", without considering that it's literally destroying Starcraft's potential for strong American viewership.
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On May 22 2013 09:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 09:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00  TheStC spawns in the bottom left  CranK spawns in the top right 1:40 gateway first for CranK rax first for TheStC 2:00 2nd rax of TheStC proxied behind the normal 3rd's mineral line gas for CranK 3:00 cybernetics core for CranK probe scout of CranK is killed 2nd gas for CranK mothership core for CranK bunker started in the main of CranK out of vision 4:00 mothership core scouts the bunker 3 probes are pulled to attack the bunker first 3 marines arrive at the main of CranK stalker for CranK CranK pulling more probes the bunker finishes 5:00 mothership core of CranK is taken out scv repairs the bunker 2nd stalker is out stalkers kiting marines a few probes re pulled another mothership core is out double gas for TheStC CC on the low ground for TheStC 8 probes have been killed so far
6:00
Stargate for CranK
3 stalkers and mothership core take out hte bunker of TheStC
2 of the stalkers are killed
another probe is killed
marines are finally cleaned up
7:00
Nexus for CranK
Oracle for CranK
tech lab for TheStC
stim research started for TheStC
2nd oracle for CranK
factory for TheStC
mothership core harassing the edge of CranK's main
8:00
oracle flies into the natural
scvs are pulled away
marines chase the oracle away
MSC forces a cancel on an add on
forge for CranK
combat shields for theStC
ebay for TheStC
Starport for TheStC
9:00
Oracle flies into the natural and kills a few more scvs
Oracle moves into the main and kills another scv
+1 armor started for CranK
missile turrets going up
2nd oracle comes in for CranK and dies the missile turret
Robo for CranK
13 scvs have been killed
double medivac production started for TheStC
10:00
first oracle comes back in the main and kills another few scvs
CranK ahead by 8 workers
TheStC moving out with his first 2 medivacs
Robo bay for CranK
oracle comes into the main again and kills more scvs
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lol. that one MSC just keeps Crank from losing his massive advantage right now.
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stc way too scared, he had more than enough time to do ridiculous damage in crank's main.
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On May 22 2013 09:55 negativedge wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 09:46 Doodsmack wrote:
Having watched the season progress as far as it has, it's really clear to me that WCS AM and EU need to be region locked. Having this random group of Koreans playing...if they're that good, they should just be playing in Korea, to try to be the best. It's basically meaningless to be the winner among the random group of Koreans that joined WCS AM. And to have a translator for the post-game interview because this guy can't even speak English even though WCS is split into different regions...lol it's pretty fucking retarded. Blizzard badly needs to make the next WCS season region-locked. To make up for the fact that there are a million more good Korean players than any other region, I think they should region lock but have two concurrent WCS Korea tournaments. Gom can run one and OGN can run the other. I'm serious. That's a hell of a lot of starcraft, though.
That's ridiculous, two Korean premier tournaments running concurrently? That's never been done before.
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On May 22 2013 10:00 IshinShishi wrote:
stc way too scared, he had more than enough time to do ridiculous damage in crank's main.
I felt like the pickup was okay but he tried running the 4 left over marines down the ramp when he could have stimmed them forward and maybe taken out 1-2 sentries? Or did I miss something on my beautiful 360p Australian internet cast
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On May 22 2013 09:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 09:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 22 2013 09:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 TheStC spawns in the bottom left CranK spawns in the top right 1:40 gateway first for CranK rax first for TheStC 2:00 2nd rax of TheStC proxied behind the normal 3rd's mineral line gas for CranK 3:00 cybernetics core for CranK probe scout of CranK is killed 2nd gas for CranK mothership core for CranK bunker started in the main of CranK out of vision 4:00 mothership core scouts the bunker 3 probes are pulled to attack the bunker first 3 marines arrive at the main of CranK stalker for CranK CranK pulling more probes the bunker finishes 5:00 mothership core of CranK is taken out scv repairs the bunker 2nd stalker is out stalkers kiting marines a few probes re pulled another mothership core is out double gas for TheStC CC on the low ground for TheStC 8 probes have been killed so far 6:00 Stargate for CranK 3 stalkers and mothership core take out hte bunker of TheStC 2 of the stalkers are killed another probe is killed marines are finally cleaned up 7:00 Nexus for CranK Oracle for CranK tech lab for TheStC stim research started for TheStC 2nd oracle for CranK factory for TheStC mothership core harassing the edge of CranK's main 8:00 oracle flies into the natural scvs are pulled away marines chase the oracle away MSC forces a cancel on an add on forge for CranK combat shields for theStC ebay for TheStC Starport for TheStC 9:00 Oracle flies into the natural and kills a few more scvs Oracle moves into the main and kills another scv +1 armor started for CranK missile turrets going up 2nd oracle comes in for CranK and dies the missile turret Robo for CranK 13 scvs have been killed double medivac production started for TheStC 10:00 first oracle comes back in the main and kills another few scvs CranK ahead by 8 workers TheStC moving out with his first 2 medivacs Robo bay for CranK oracle comes into the main again and kills more scvs
11:00
TheStC pushes into the natural of CranK
photon overcharge on the natural nexus
TheStC elevators into the main of CranK out of range of overcharge
+1 attack on thew ay for TheStC
photon overcharge on the main nexus
concussive shells for TheStC
12:00
Colossus production started for CranK
Extended thermal lance research started for CranK
double viking production started for TheStC
2 more rax for TheStC
2 more gates for CranK
+1 attack started for CranK
oracle flies into the main and starts killing scvs again
13:00
vikings finally kill off the 2nd oracle
24 scvs have been killed
phoenix production started for CranK
+1 armor started for TheStC
double drop in the main of CranK
CranK chases the drop out
14:00
3 more gates for CranK
+1 air attack started for CranK
Twilight cuncil for CranK
TheStC fakes a double drop into the main but phoenixes start chasing the medivacs
15:00
armory for TheStC
2nd starport for TheStC
+2 armor started for CranK
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On May 22 2013 10:00 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 09:55 negativedge wrote:On May 22 2013 09:46 Doodsmack wrote:
Having watched the season progress as far as it has, it's really clear to me that WCS AM and EU need to be region locked. Having this random group of Koreans playing...if they're that good, they should just be playing in Korea, to try to be the best. It's basically meaningless to be the winner among the random group of Koreans that joined WCS AM. And to have a translator for the post-game interview because this guy can't even speak English even though WCS is split into different regions...lol it's pretty fucking retarded. Blizzard badly needs to make the next WCS season region-locked. To make up for the fact that there are a million more good Korean players than any other region, I think they should region lock but have two concurrent WCS Korea tournaments. Gom can run one and OGN can run the other. I'm serious. That's a hell of a lot of starcraft, though. That's ridiculous, two Korean premier tournaments running concurrently? That's never been done before.
It has.
 2012 OnGameNet Starleague Season 1
2012 Global StarCraft II League Season 4
EDIT : LOL, was a sarcasm right ? T_T
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On May 22 2013 10:02 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 10:00 Dodgin wrote:On May 22 2013 09:55 negativedge wrote:On May 22 2013 09:46 Doodsmack wrote:
Having watched the season progress as far as it has, it's really clear to me that WCS AM and EU need to be region locked. Having this random group of Koreans playing...if they're that good, they should just be playing in Korea, to try to be the best. It's basically meaningless to be the winner among the random group of Koreans that joined WCS AM. And to have a translator for the post-game interview because this guy can't even speak English even though WCS is split into different regions...lol it's pretty fucking retarded. Blizzard badly needs to make the next WCS season region-locked. To make up for the fact that there are a million more good Korean players than any other region, I think they should region lock but have two concurrent WCS Korea tournaments. Gom can run one and OGN can run the other. I'm serious. That's a hell of a lot of starcraft, though. That's ridiculous, two Korean premier tournaments running concurrently? That's never been done before. It has. 2012 OnGameNet Starleague Season 12012 Global StarCraft II League Season 4
I believe he was being sarcastic
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why pull scvs vs however many cannons when you are decently ahead? people really need to learn when to use the mvp train
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I really have to say, Axeltoss is working very well together with TotalBiscuit. They have very good chemistry. It's actually amazing how TB improves the whole experience altogether.
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Just threw away 8 marines...
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Hell of a game, amazing hold!
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On May 22 2013 10:00 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 09:55 negativedge wrote:On May 22 2013 09:46 Doodsmack wrote:
Having watched the season progress as far as it has, it's really clear to me that WCS AM and EU need to be region locked. Having this random group of Koreans playing...if they're that good, they should just be playing in Korea, to try to be the best. It's basically meaningless to be the winner among the random group of Koreans that joined WCS AM. And to have a translator for the post-game interview because this guy can't even speak English even though WCS is split into different regions...lol it's pretty fucking retarded. Blizzard badly needs to make the next WCS season region-locked. To make up for the fact that there are a million more good Korean players than any other region, I think they should region lock but have two concurrent WCS Korea tournaments. Gom can run one and OGN can run the other. I'm serious. That's a hell of a lot of starcraft, though. That's ridiculous, two Korean premier tournaments running concurrently? That's never been done before.
it's never been done when there is also a European and an American league of similar length and import also going on.
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TB CANNOT HOLD THE PASSION
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On May 22 2013 10:02 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 10:00 Dodgin wrote:On May 22 2013 09:55 negativedge wrote:On May 22 2013 09:46 Doodsmack wrote:
Having watched the season progress as far as it has, it's really clear to me that WCS AM and EU need to be region locked. Having this random group of Koreans playing...if they're that good, they should just be playing in Korea, to try to be the best. It's basically meaningless to be the winner among the random group of Koreans that joined WCS AM. And to have a translator for the post-game interview because this guy can't even speak English even though WCS is split into different regions...lol it's pretty fucking retarded. Blizzard badly needs to make the next WCS season region-locked. To make up for the fact that there are a million more good Korean players than any other region, I think they should region lock but have two concurrent WCS Korea tournaments. Gom can run one and OGN can run the other. I'm serious. That's a hell of a lot of starcraft, though. That's ridiculous, two Korean premier tournaments running concurrently? That's never been done before. It has. 2012 OnGameNet Starleague Season 12012 Global StarCraft II League Season 4EDIT : LOL, was a sarcasm right ? T_T
I was thinking more like MSL and OSL, but that works too.
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On May 22 2013 10:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 09:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 22 2013 09:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 22 2013 09:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 TheStC spawns in the bottom left CranK spawns in the top right 1:40 gateway first for CranK rax first for TheStC 2:00 2nd rax of TheStC proxied behind the normal 3rd's mineral line gas for CranK 3:00 cybernetics core for CranK probe scout of CranK is killed 2nd gas for CranK mothership core for CranK bunker started in the main of CranK out of vision 4:00 mothership core scouts the bunker 3 probes are pulled to attack the bunker first 3 marines arrive at the main of CranK stalker for CranK CranK pulling more probes the bunker finishes 5:00 mothership core of CranK is taken out scv repairs the bunker 2nd stalker is out stalkers kiting marines a few probes re pulled another mothership core is out double gas for TheStC CC on the low ground for TheStC 8 probes have been killed so far 6:00 Stargate for CranK 3 stalkers and mothership core take out hte bunker of TheStC 2 of the stalkers are killed another probe is killed marines are finally cleaned up 7:00 Nexus for CranK Oracle for CranK tech lab for TheStC stim research started for TheStC 2nd oracle for CranK factory for TheStC mothership core harassing the edge of CranK's main 8:00 oracle flies into the natural scvs are pulled away marines chase the oracle away MSC forces a cancel on an add on forge for CranK combat shields for theStC ebay for TheStC Starport for TheStC 9:00 Oracle flies into the natural and kills a few more scvs Oracle moves into the main and kills another scv +1 armor started for CranK missile turrets going up 2nd oracle comes in for CranK and dies the missile turret Robo for CranK 13 scvs have been killed double medivac production started for TheStC 10:00 first oracle comes back in the main and kills another few scvs CranK ahead by 8 workers TheStC moving out with his first 2 medivacs Robo bay for CranK oracle comes into the main again and kills more scvs 11:00 TheStC pushes into the natural of CranK photon overcharge on the natural nexus TheStC elevators into the main of CranK out of range of overcharge +1 attack on thew ay for TheStC photon overcharge on the main nexus concussive shells for TheStC 12:00 Colossus production started for CranK Extended thermal lance research started for CranK double viking production started for TheStC 2 more rax for TheStC 2 more gates for CranK +1 attack started for CranK oracle flies into the main and starts killing scvs again 13:00 vikings finally kill off the 2nd oracle 24 scvs have been killed phoenix production started for CranK +1 armor started for TheStC double drop in the main of CranK CranK chases the drop out 14:00 3 more gates for CranK +1 air attack started for CranK Twilight cuncil for CranK TheStC fakes a double drop into the main but phoenixes start chasing the medivacs 15:00 armory for TheStC 2nd starport for TheStC +2 armor started for CranK
16:00
+1 ship weapons for TheStC
+2 attack started for TheStC
charge research started for CranK
vikings take out 2 phoenixes
17:00
quadruple viking production for TheStC
TheStC only has 2 medivacs
18:00
TheStC moves intot he natural
photon overcharge on the natural
all the colossi are killed by vikings
TheStC 20 supply ahead
TheStC backs off
mothership core rebuilding for CranK
colossus rebuilding for CranK
medivac production restarted for TheStC
19:00
TheStC pulling all the scvs from his natural
4 vikings left for TheStC
1 colossus out for CranK
2nd colossus on the way
TheStC goes in for an attack with his scvs as +2 atack finishes
vikings die before the colossus
TheStC tries to drop marauders to snipe the colossus but hte medivac is killed
phoenixes trying to lift stuff
20:00
ground army of CranK is gone
another colossus finsihes
probes in the natural are pulled
Phoenixes picking up marines as they rally in
Marauders kiting probes and zealots
CranK saves his colossus picking up more units
Supplies are equal at about 60 each
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STC, why didn't you pull the scvs with your first push there ._.#
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