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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1001
On May 16 2013 19:16 ZenithM wrote:
Looks like mods are more lenient this time

Depends from time to time.
During the last months of WoL whining about zerg was completely fine as long it was not to crazy like calling Life a patchzerg or some stuff.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1002
Bomber time to win in a pressure match!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1003
On May 16 2013 19:20 Asha` wrote:
It's alright guys, Bomber will show us that T's not completely over the top vs Zerg!

T_T


When it comes to balance, Bomber is just irrelevant...
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1004
All I read was "43 scvs lost" ... all I was thinking is '30 drones build" .. or something along those numbers. People need to stop crying imba imba, just because their favorite player lost.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1005
On May 16 2013 19:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:18 bo1b wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote:
omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.-


Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever.

43 WORKERS KILLED IS A FAILED ALL IN


yes, all-ins are supposed to win the game out right, especially this one.

All ins need to do enough damage to make it worth while. I'd argue that bringing someone down to 6 workers and 2 hellbats should be enough damage but thats just me.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2887 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1006
On May 16 2013 19:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:18 bo1b wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote:
omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.-


Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever.

43 WORKERS KILLED IS A FAILED ALL IN


yes, all-ins are supposed to win the game out right, especially this one.


actually....no? this all-in (And the term is so loosely applied now that the meaning has changed), is supposed to trade well with SCVs. which he did.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1007
On May 16 2013 19:20 rothsbury wrote:
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On May 16 2013 19:18 Qikz wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:17 deus.machinarum wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:14 BakedButters wrote:
Hellbats need to cost gas or can't be healed by medivacs

I would even go as far as to say that they need to cost gas AND not be able to be healed by medivacs

dunno, still like blizzard's current slow approach to balancing the game


Hellbats need to be as strong as they are or mech just will not work against toss and zerg even. They could remove the healing from hellbats, I agree with that but a gas cost would make mech almost impossible to afford everything you need.

Infact, I'd rather them just make it so you can't build hellbats on their own and you need the upgrade to do it. That'd be fine and it'd remove early drops that are too strong against people playing greedy apparently. You could leave the healing too.

To make mech more viable I'd be happy for tanks to be buffed. They're only consistently build in TvT because there are much much better choices in other match us. If they did the same damage vs everything that they do vs armoured (like ultra buff) then they would be much more viable vs. Z and P. But yes hellbats have to be nerfed. You can't have a stupidly imbalanced unit just because mech isn't that strong.


It's not stupidly imbalanced though is it., Roro didn't have any anti air and barely any units to kill the units from the drops. He then kept making drones and not units and got rolled over by a very small army from Innovation. That's not balance, that's Roro throwing the game.

I would say again that you should have to build hellions then transform them if it's that bad.
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Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1008
Did the moderation go on vacation? I agree with the comment previously, that it has become quite lenient in this thread!
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1009
On May 16 2013 19:18 Fionn wrote:
I don't care if Terran is OP. It can be OP as long as it stops us from getting another ZvZ or PvP final.

Continue killing shit, Hellbats. I'll take a TvP/TvT/TvZ final any day of the weak due to your ferarri medivac healing Hellbats.


Terran isn't OP, and ladder distribution + tournament statistics support this.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1010
On May 16 2013 19:19 smogg wrote:
Welp, a patchzerg just got destroyed. Now let's see how a good zerg player actually plays vs terran.

So Life's a patchzerg too ?
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1011
tastosis are like "well, and here are some other people playing some games I guess, whatever"
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1012
On May 16 2013 19:18 Fionn wrote:
I don't care if Terran is OP. It can be OP as long as it stops us from getting another ZvZ or PvP final.

Continue killing shit, Hellbats. I'll take a TvP/TvT/TvZ final any day of the weak due to your ferarri medivac healing Hellbats.


Hellbats are not that exciting to watch though.
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1013
Go Bomber!
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
May 16 2013 10:22 GMT
#1014
On May 16 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:19 bo1b wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:18 Fionn wrote:
I don't care if Terran is OP. It can be OP as long as it stops us from getting another ZvZ or PvP final.

Continue killing shit, Hellbats. I'll take a TvP/TvT/TvZ final any day of the weak due to your ferarri medivac healing Hellbats.

You need lessons from waxangel on snark.


Huh? I'm totally serious.

I'm 100% fine with Terran being OP. Terran have the best three match-ups in the game, in my opinion. After six months of ZvZ finals, I will take our old OP overlords back.


Brace for the summer of terrans v2.0
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 16 2013 10:23 GMT
#1015
I'm happy Bomber found the booth correctly. After two years away from the Ro8, I was afraid he'd walk into a wall or something.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 16 2013 10:23 GMT
#1016
It's not like terran is winning left and right vs zerg with hellbats. One game omg nerf.
"I don't see any terran being able to beat Life currently" -> Life best player in the world
"I don't see any zerg being able to beat Bogus currently" -> Nerf hellbats because he used them once in a bo5.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
May 16 2013 10:23 GMT
#1017
To be entirely fair, I think Zerg simply can't delay muta tech for so long without dying to hellbats. It's not that hellbats are OP, it's just that they can't be stopped without mutas. If you roach bane ling all in, you delay mutas and therefor take the risk to die to hellbat drops. Taking into account that roro did very poorly at defending his drones, I don't actually think hellbats are that imbalanced.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 16 2013 10:23 GMT
#1018
Are you ready for Bombing?
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
May 16 2013 10:23 GMT
#1019
On May 16 2013 19:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:20 Psychobabas wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:18 Corrosive wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:18 Psychobabas wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:16 EpiK wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:15 Psychobabas wrote:
Innovation = bonjwa

no, just no


Oh yes. Oh yes...

hasnt won a tournament ---> bonjwa


Doesn't need too. He is declared bonjwa from his amazing skills. Best Terran ever. GSL too easy for him.


please don't act so deluded, bonjwa is a term used for long term domination, you can make this claim in at least 8 months from now...if he continues his form.

Please don't act so romanian
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
May 16 2013 10:23 GMT
#1020
On May 16 2013 19:21 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:19 dcemuser wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote:
omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.-


Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever.


To be equally fair, Innovation's defense was pretty horrid too.

It was like he got his army together and said "SCVs, please A-move into Banelings and kill yourselves as efficiently as possible so I can win this game with none of you".

I heard bad things happen against Banelings when you multitask somewhere else.

That wouldn't be multi-tasking so much as tasking elsewhere.
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