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On May 16 2013 19:16 ZenithM wrote:Looks like mods are more lenient this time  Depends from time to time. During the last months of WoL whining about zerg was completely fine as long it was not to crazy like calling Life a patchzerg or some stuff.
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Bomber time to win in a pressure match!
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France9034 Posts
On May 16 2013 19:20 Asha` wrote: It's alright guys, Bomber will show us that T's not completely over the top vs Zerg!
T_T
When it comes to balance, Bomber is just irrelevant...
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All I read was "43 scvs lost" ... all I was thinking is '30 drones build" .. or something along those numbers. People need to stop crying imba imba, just because their favorite player lost.
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On May 16 2013 19:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 19:18 bo1b wrote:On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote: omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.- Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever. 43 WORKERS KILLED IS A FAILED ALL IN yes, all-ins are supposed to win the game out right, especially this one. All ins need to do enough damage to make it worth while. I'd argue that bringing someone down to 6 workers and 2 hellbats should be enough damage but thats just me.
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On May 16 2013 19:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 19:18 bo1b wrote:On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote: omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.- Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever. 43 WORKERS KILLED IS A FAILED ALL IN yes, all-ins are supposed to win the game out right, especially this one.
actually....no? this all-in (And the term is so loosely applied now that the meaning has changed), is supposed to trade well with SCVs. which he did.
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
On May 16 2013 19:20 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 19:18 Qikz wrote:On May 16 2013 19:17 deus.machinarum wrote:On May 16 2013 19:14 BakedButters wrote: Hellbats need to cost gas or can't be healed by medivacs I would even go as far as to say that they need to cost gas AND not be able to be healed by medivacs dunno, still like blizzard's current slow approach to balancing the game Hellbats need to be as strong as they are or mech just will not work against toss and zerg even. They could remove the healing from hellbats, I agree with that but a gas cost would make mech almost impossible to afford everything you need. Infact, I'd rather them just make it so you can't build hellbats on their own and you need the upgrade to do it. That'd be fine and it'd remove early drops that are too strong against people playing greedy apparently. You could leave the healing too. To make mech more viable I'd be happy for tanks to be buffed. They're only consistently build in TvT because there are much much better choices in other match us. If they did the same damage vs everything that they do vs armoured (like ultra buff) then they would be much more viable vs. Z and P. But yes hellbats have to be nerfed. You can't have a stupidly imbalanced unit just because mech isn't that strong.
It's not stupidly imbalanced though is it., Roro didn't have any anti air and barely any units to kill the units from the drops. He then kept making drones and not units and got rolled over by a very small army from Innovation. That's not balance, that's Roro throwing the game.
I would say again that you should have to build hellions then transform them if it's that bad.
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Did the moderation go on vacation? I agree with the comment previously, that it has become quite lenient in this thread!
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On May 16 2013 19:18 Fionn wrote: I don't care if Terran is OP. It can be OP as long as it stops us from getting another ZvZ or PvP final.
Continue killing shit, Hellbats. I'll take a TvP/TvT/TvZ final any day of the weak due to your ferarri medivac healing Hellbats.
Terran isn't OP, and ladder distribution + tournament statistics support this.
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On May 16 2013 19:19 smogg wrote: Welp, a patchzerg just got destroyed. Now let's see how a good zerg player actually plays vs terran. So Life's a patchzerg too ?
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tastosis are like "well, and here are some other people playing some games I guess, whatever"
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On May 16 2013 19:18 Fionn wrote: I don't care if Terran is OP. It can be OP as long as it stops us from getting another ZvZ or PvP final.
Continue killing shit, Hellbats. I'll take a TvP/TvT/TvZ final any day of the weak due to your ferarri medivac healing Hellbats.
Hellbats are not that exciting to watch though.
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On May 16 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 19:19 bo1b wrote:On May 16 2013 19:18 Fionn wrote: I don't care if Terran is OP. It can be OP as long as it stops us from getting another ZvZ or PvP final.
Continue killing shit, Hellbats. I'll take a TvP/TvT/TvZ final any day of the weak due to your ferarri medivac healing Hellbats. You need lessons from waxangel on snark. Huh? I'm totally serious. I'm 100% fine with Terran being OP. Terran have the best three match-ups in the game, in my opinion. After six months of ZvZ finals, I will take our old OP overlords back.
Brace for the summer of terrans v2.0
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United States23455 Posts
I'm happy Bomber found the booth correctly. After two years away from the Ro8, I was afraid he'd walk into a wall or something.
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It's not like terran is winning left and right vs zerg with hellbats. One game omg nerf. "I don't see any terran being able to beat Life currently" -> Life best player in the world "I don't see any zerg being able to beat Bogus currently" -> Nerf hellbats because he used them once in a bo5.
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To be entirely fair, I think Zerg simply can't delay muta tech for so long without dying to hellbats. It's not that hellbats are OP, it's just that they can't be stopped without mutas. If you roach bane ling all in, you delay mutas and therefor take the risk to die to hellbat drops. Taking into account that roro did very poorly at defending his drones, I don't actually think hellbats are that imbalanced.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Are you ready for Bombing?
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On May 16 2013 19:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 19:20 Psychobabas wrote:On May 16 2013 19:18 Corrosive wrote:On May 16 2013 19:18 Psychobabas wrote:On May 16 2013 19:16 EpiK wrote:On May 16 2013 19:15 Psychobabas wrote: Innovation = bonjwa no, just no Oh yes. Oh yes... hasnt won a tournament ---> bonjwa Doesn't need too. He is declared bonjwa from his amazing skills. Best Terran ever. GSL too easy for him. please don't act so deluded, bonjwa is a term used for long term domination, you can make this claim in at least 8 months from now...if he continues his form. Please don't act so romanian
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On May 16 2013 19:21 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 19:19 dcemuser wrote:On May 16 2013 19:17 THM wrote:On May 16 2013 19:09 CarlosOmse wrote: omfg what sick bullshit, absolutly nothing roro could do against these hellbats drops -.- Of course there's nothing he can do. He has no tech, he did an ALLIN which failed partly due to his leaving part of his army go afk in the natural. If you allin and you fail you're way behind in tech and you're in deep shit. If those were Marine marauder drops or marine widow mine drops he'd still have a bad time and most likely lose. You don't just come back from having 0 tech vs a terran that has medivacs + hellbats or medivacs + stim or whatever. To be equally fair, Innovation's defense was pretty horrid too. It was like he got his army together and said "SCVs, please A-move into Banelings and kill yourselves as efficiently as possible so I can win this game with none of you". I heard bad things happen against Banelings when you multitask somewhere else. That wouldn't be multi-tasking so much as tasking elsewhere.
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