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Thanks for the thread! It'd be nice if EffOrt and Cure gave strong performances.
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oh god please cj pleaseeee
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how come Major hasn't played for Team8 yet? Is he not in korea currently right now?
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Several kills from Effort would be nice
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hmm... i would like some kills from sOs and cure :D :D :D
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On May 13 2013 13:30 Secret05 wrote:
how come Major hasn't played for Team8 yet? Is he not in korea currently right now?
If his team thinks he's good enough he will get sent out, they don't think he's good enough yet.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Hope for some good games and not to many mirrors (unless a badass TvT happens)
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I would love to see an all-kill from CJ! ^__^ One can hope!
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On May 13 2013 13:53 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 13:30 Secret05 wrote:
how come Major hasn't played for Team8 yet? Is he not in korea currently right now? If his team thinks he's good enough he will get sent out, they don't think he's good enough yet.
So like in Broodwar, never.
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United States97276 Posts
I hope EffOrt can score some wins today.
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On May 13 2013 14:53 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 13:53 Dodgin wrote:On May 13 2013 13:30 Secret05 wrote:
how come Major hasn't played for Team8 yet? Is he not in korea currently right now? If his team thinks he's good enough he will get sent out, they don't think he's good enough yet. So like in Broodwar, never.
I remember once there was a KT x Oz match, and both teams agreed to send Reach and Anytime against each other, when both were already washed up players and obviously not A-teames, just as fanservice.
If some other team had a player like Major, maybe they could do it
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On May 13 2013 15:05 Ace Frehley wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 14:53 Type|NarutO wrote:On May 13 2013 13:53 Dodgin wrote:On May 13 2013 13:30 Secret05 wrote:
how come Major hasn't played for Team8 yet? Is he not in korea currently right now? If his team thinks he's good enough he will get sent out, they don't think he's good enough yet. So like in Broodwar, never. I remember once there was a KT x Oz match, and both teams agreed to send Reach and Anytime against each other, when both were already washed up players and obviously not A-teames, just as fanservice. If some other team had a player like Major, maybe they could do it
I remember YellOw vs Bisu.... and...
+ Show Spoiler +
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Go CJ. Effort and hero[join]! I miss leta...
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Austria24417 Posts
I can WATCHHHHHH today :D
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abit late but heres today banner 
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gg hydra i haven't seen zerg hold this shit in proleague ever... no one can get to vipers quick enuf
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wow, that's very nice by hydra.
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Austria24417 Posts
It hurts in my soul seeing that many mutas.
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On May 13 2013 15:20 groms wrote:
gg hydra i haven't seen zerg hold this shit in proleague ever... no one can get to vipers quick enuf
Turns out mutas are pretty good
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Muta is the answer to everything lol. Seriously Jaehoon overestimates his own army
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On May 13 2013 15:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It hurts in my soul seeing that many mutas.
a few archons would have made a huge difference
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On May 13 2013 15:26 ThomasR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 15:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It hurts in my soul seeing that many mutas. a few archons would have made a huge difference
No, not really. Money storms are all you can do once there's 25+ mutas. Or mass phoenix but you'll never get there and if you do, suddenly ultras
This is no balance whine. It just hurts my soul is all.
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United States33327 Posts
what is this, mind version 4?
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On May 13 2013 15:26 ThomasR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 15:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It hurts in my soul seeing that many mutas. a few archons would have made a huge difference
there thing called magic box
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On May 13 2013 15:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 15:26 ThomasR wrote:On May 13 2013 15:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It hurts in my soul seeing that many mutas. a few archons would have made a huge difference No, not really. Money storms are all you can do once there's 25+ mutas. Or mass phoenix but you'll never get there and if you do, suddenly ultras This is no balance whine. It just hurts my soul is all.
hydra wouldnt have been able to focus down the voids as easily
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On May 13 2013 15:33 Porishan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 15:26 ThomasR wrote:On May 13 2013 15:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It hurts in my soul seeing that many mutas. a few archons would have made a huge difference there thing called magic box
don't tell shine though
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On May 13 2013 15:33 Porishan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 15:26 ThomasR wrote:On May 13 2013 15:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It hurts in my soul seeing that many mutas. a few archons would have made a huge difference there thing called magic box
ok and weaken everything a little bit at a time
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Austria24417 Posts
That match history for Cure
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cure not dropping at all vs the most droppable style lol, well he only has 20 medivacs..
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do tanks suck that much now
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Tank are pretty awful against anything they don't 1-2 shot.
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Austria24417 Posts
Tanks with +1 attack vs 3 armor. Yeah no shit they suck, especially once ultras with 5 armor tank the damage they already don't do.
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weird to see roach/hydra work so well in tvz at this level
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On May 13 2013 15:56 Hall0wed wrote:
lol tanks, joke unit
Still superior to mines. Less random, longer range, better zoning. Stacking in attack. If you have plenty of mines, you can either trigger on shit, trigger on your own shit or have lucky hits... let it be half a year from now and no one will be using mines in high numbers at least for offense. You cannot rely on them as much.
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man hydra is so much better this round than last haha
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^ yeah this is true. hydra is a beast in winners league for some reason.
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Imagine how good Hydra might be if he had two working eyes!
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Oh fuck? seems hydra is playing well......and i missed it.....long time ago i saw a good zerg!!!!
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hydra please give me more fpl points
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Hydra going strong ! Hopefully Baby came reverse all kill .___.
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Gogo hydra, need you to recover my losses from having bisu on anti.
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Austria24417 Posts
On May 13 2013 16:10 Jono7272 wrote:
Gogo hydra, need you to recover my losses from having bisu on anti.
I believed and it paid off so far.
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Austria24417 Posts
Terminator will lose to his lack of colossus range
gooooood forcefields though to make up for it.
hydra wins now.
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Hydra's opponents should blind counter him. He almost always makes hydras.
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On May 13 2013 16:00 Type|NarutO wrote:Still superior to mines. Less random, longer range, better zoning. Stacking in attack. If you have plenty of mines, you can either trigger on shit, trigger on your own shit or have lucky hits... let it be half a year from now and no one will be using mines in high numbers at least for offense. You cannot rely on them as much.
Until the Zerg makes your tanks next to useless thanks to Vipers. I don't think the current TvZ will last forever but I'm not sure how much of an answer tanks will be either.
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Meh, first FPL I don't pick Hydra and suddenly he bursts with HotS skill. 
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Omg!!! Hydra is on my anti team. GeeGee FPL.
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On May 13 2013 16:20 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 16:00 Type|NarutO wrote:On May 13 2013 15:56 Hall0wed wrote:
lol tanks, joke unit Still superior to mines. Less random, longer range, better zoning. Stacking in attack. If you have plenty of mines, you can either trigger on shit, trigger on your own shit or have lucky hits... let it be half a year from now and no one will be using mines in high numbers at least for offense. You cannot rely on them as much. Until the Zerg makes your tanks next to useless thanks to Vipers. I don't think the current TvZ will last forever but I'm not sure how much of an answer tanks will be either.
Thats my fear exactly. I am no noob but I'm not amazing either. In Wings of Liberty obviously infestor/broodlord was next to impossible to beat if you were to enter the lategame on even footing. I had the feeling and a good grasp on the game that I can win against ultralisks, playing well. Now I feel like ultras are smaller and do more damage overall, I cannot beat ultras anymore, because smaller ultras / more damage ultras are better to begin with but also tanks can be rendered useless and ultras don't really care that much about mines.
This is in no way a balance whine as HOTS and its builds are not nearly figured out, just the impression I got. I think mines are a great defensive tool at the later stages, but early on not so much because they can be negated by 1 unit (could even send the natural overlord to defuse both with an roach allin). Tanks on the other hand, are very good until vipers are out, so this might be way to go. Well I guess its no use talking and we just have to wait an see what the highest level does with it!
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Hydra is a ZvP sniper so the strong protoss presence in proleague fairs well for him lol
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is anyone doing the SPL Woongjin vs EG-TL thread today? If not, I've got time today =)
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Naruto: Ultras are smaller in Hots?
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Such a solid and smart play by Hydra.
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That swarmhost stuff is the beyond frustrating to play against.
I hate fighting free units, it's not even an issue of whether they're imbalanced, it's just so frustrating fighting battles against units that don't cost anything.
The game swings in one way very quickly and the other side has little chance of coming back because during battles, one side has almost 0 units lost unless the the other side has overwhelming numbers.
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Austria24417 Posts
That was really smart strategically. His roach/hydra/corruptor attack was only supposed to snipe the colossi to make his swarmhost transition strong enough to a) secure his 4th and b) keep Terminator contained on 3 bases while constantly trading super effectively due to free units.
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only me finding the colossous+ground armee vs corruptors +ground armee way unfair in favor of protoss?
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On May 13 2013 16:27 Foxxan wrote:
only me finding the colossous+ground armee vs corruptors +ground armee way unfair in favor of protoss?
Not sure how you deduced that from this game.
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On May 13 2013 16:24 Heartland wrote:
Naruto: Ultras are smaller in Hots?
I was told so and also got the impression ingame, am I wrong here? :x anyways. Besides that, they are still >200% stronger vs light... and you rendered them less-effective by putting marines in front. Now, its very hard, because they shred marines.
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omg, this breaks are so long :/
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got the thread for EG-TL vs WSJ up. Sorry for it being so late, I only found out that I have time for it half an hour ago.
Oh well, let's watch the Hydra all-kill and get hyped for (hopefully) a good fight from EG-TL
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On May 13 2013 16:41 Yello wrote:
got the thread for EG-TL vs WSJ up. Sorry for it being so late, I only found out that I have time for it half an hour ago.
Oh well, let's watch the Hydra all-kill and get hyped for (hopefully) a good fight from EG-TL
<3 you for all the work!
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What are these weird car things? Is that some sort of new skin for the hellbats?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
Tuna 3-killed?
OMG
all kill would give me so many FPL points and would easily redeem all the points I lost yesterday.
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Austria24417 Posts
Hydra is in pretty horrible shape
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Can anyone tell me a little bit more about Hydra? I see a lot of people bashing him, but whenever I see him play, he is very solid.
What is up with the bashing?
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that collapsible rock timing right before the banelings.
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Ty must win just because of that move now
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On May 13 2013 16:50 GreyKnight wrote:
that collapsible rock timing right before the banelings.
pimpest plays imho.
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Ty is playing pretty good.
He is always using small squads of units but he trades them pretty damn well. This sets him up for a big finishing move
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TYs 4th is missplaced right? or am I just seeing things
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Am i the only one having the feeling that when playing ling/bane muta its impossible to win the lategame ZvT ?So gaz starved, where the terran only need minerals and have a crazy gas bank...
Well Hydra took a lot of damages from drops but still...
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Bad game from hydra. Also they really need other casters...
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On May 13 2013 16:53 Insoleet wrote:
Am i the only one having the feeling that when playing ling/bane muta its impossible to win the lategame ZvT ?So gaz starved, where the terran only need minerals and have a crazy gas bank...
Well Hydra took a lot of damages from drops but still...
It is impossible because you need a lot more upgrades for fight to be even, that is the reason Zerg goes for Infestors/Vipers/Ultras/Brood Lords, where Terran has no real transition except maybe for Ravens, and still we don't see that transition in official matches.
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On May 13 2013 16:50 Ludwigvan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 16:50 GreyKnight wrote:
that collapsible rock timing right before the banelings. pimpest plays imho.
should have collapsed them on the banelings
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lets go Baby!! First reverse AK of WL!!
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love those vids with Major, great to see how well he gets along with Team 8
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On May 13 2013 16:58 Gairbear wrote:
lets go Baby!! First reverse AK of WL!!
That would be soo sick
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I have Bong on anti. Damnit
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NO!!!
Effort will finish someone off anyway. ;D
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On May 13 2013 17:06 tomatriedes wrote:Baby's going to take some hits from the Bong! + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzrh5GftgzM
sawed-off keyboard, hand on the mouse
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On May 13 2013 17:10 Schelim wrote:sawed-off keyboard, hand on the mouse
Sippin on Pocari, PUFFIN ON A BONG
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Just started watching, looks like Baby's got a nice lead. What happened in the early game?
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On May 13 2013 17:17 metzninja wrote:
Just started watching, looks like Baby's got a nice lead. What happened in the early game?
hellions, hellbats and other droppable things
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On May 13 2013 17:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:17 metzninja wrote:
Just started watching, looks like Baby's got a nice lead. What happened in the early game? hellions, hellbats and other droppable things
Thanks, just saw the 32 harvesters killed!
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The last engagement was admittably in easy mode, but still it was nicely organized.
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Bong got smoked :/ need some EffOrt!
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On May 13 2013 17:22 Arceus wrote:
Bong got smoked :/ need some EffOrt!
EffOrt doesn't get you anywhere on a pyjama party!
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Whatever happened to Leta? Is he still on the roster?
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On May 13 2013 17:25 i.of.the.storm wrote:
Whatever happened to Leta? Is he still on the roster?
Didn't he get benched?
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Damn was hoping Baby would take out herO then Effort would kill him in the ace D;
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Austria24417 Posts
Them slighty but not really forward raxes.
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Noooooooooooo
Not this infamous build again t_t
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Don't those bunkers look weird?
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United States33327 Posts
this is some tal'darim altar shit :o
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Lol i have both Baby and Hydra on my FPL team.
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Austria24417 Posts
Cloud Kingdom sends its regards
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Haha that was hilarious, Baby walling both his opponent and himself off.
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Don't forget Shakuras Plateau!
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I love Baby build.... Abusing the state of terran race perfectly xD
11/11 always work because zerg have to open hatch/gas/pool
Hellbats are just stupidly broken
And marine hellbats is crazy good because hellbats are as tanky as marauders and do way more damages to lings... For pure mineralz cost.
I really hope David Kim is watching this game.
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Austria24417 Posts
I think Baby's plan here is to just ferry hellbats in 2 by 2 until he inevitably wins
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Reverse all kill gogo Baby!!
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BaBy is really upping his HPM here, at this rate he will surely win
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Honestly, as a terran player, I think it would be best if hellbats were not bio, and maybe buffed health a bit to compensate. Hellbats being healed by medivacs is just stupid.
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"going for the drop in the main base with the drop" great casting snm...
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On May 13 2013 17:43 Cokefreak wrote:
This is sad to watch.
this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense
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Surely there is no way TY loses this ? 0.O
Is he doing everything he can to lose or is it me?
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On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense
Its maybe fun from a terran Point of View, but from a Zerg point of view... Its truely abusive.
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Baby's main army control seems much worse than his drop control, he should not have been losing those armies to banelings. Still not going to lose, but he's trading pretty poorly in these head on engagements.
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did effort cancel spire or why didnt he make ~10 muta when he had 1k in both min and gas
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On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense
No it's sad to watch because I wanted to actually have a good game instead of Effort being way too greedy and basically dying to 3-4 medbat drops and then it's just a 10 minute death animation for him.
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On May 13 2013 17:47 capu wrote:
did effort cancel spire or why didnt he make ~10 muta when he had 1k in both min and gas
Going for winfestors brah. Making 8 at a time atm
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Oh man, the Korean commentators are loving effOrt's idle larva haha
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Did Effort think, that you need the infestor energy upgrade to finish BEFORE you start to build them?
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I'm really confused about Effort's larvae spending this game.. refraining from spending his money.. while saving for what?
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On May 13 2013 17:46 Insoleet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:On May 13 2013 17:43 Cokefreak wrote:
This is sad to watch. this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense Its maybe fun from a terran Point of View, but from a Zerg point of view... Its truely abusive.
From a skill point of view, it's fun to watch. But from a balance perspective, it's kind of meh, but I don't think the game should be nerfed into boredom like WoL was (IMO). Zoozoovacs are pretty exciting, just paired with hellbats they become stupid.
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"If he turned all of those larva into zerglings, he would have been even with Ty." Wat? Effort was miles behind and 40 lings won't help him.
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On May 13 2013 17:49 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
I'm really confused about Effort's larvae spending this game.. refraining from spending his money.. while saving for what?
Winfestors xD
But i do think he forgot to hotkey that hatchery and thats why there was build up of Larva, not because of saving it up (i don't think) might be wrong.
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you need roaches against hellbat drop time. Line/baneling is not going to work. If he really wanted to he could rush lair for baneling speed, which isn't a very good way of holding hellbat drops, but even that he didn't do. :|
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On May 13 2013 17:49 BlackPanther wrote:
"If he turned all of those larva into zerglings, he would have been even with Ty." Wat? Effort was miles behind and 40 lings won't help him.
If he had a spire he could've spent his 1k 2k on 20 mutalisk and made a game of it.
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On May 13 2013 17:51 casualman wrote:
you need roaches against hellbat drop time. Line/baneling is not going to work. If he really wanted to he could rush lair for baneling speed, which isn't a very good way of holding hellbat drops, but even that he didn't do. :|
To be honest it's hard to rush lair when you lose your natural to a 2 rax bunker rush.
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On May 13 2013 17:49 i.of.the.storm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:46 Insoleet wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:On May 13 2013 17:43 Cokefreak wrote:
This is sad to watch. this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense Its maybe fun from a terran Point of View, but from a Zerg point of view... Its truely abusive. From a skill point of view, it's fun to watch. But from a balance perspective, it's kind of meh, but I don't think the game should be nerfed into boredom like WoL was (IMO). Zoozoovacs are pretty exciting, just paired with hellbats they become stupid.
They did damage that game for the same reason most harassment works in games like that and that's that Effort was behind so he skipped defense to try and catch up. The hellbat harassment reminds me a lot of WoL mutas in ZvP in that if you fall behind its just going to get worse and worse for you.
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Sad to watch because even if Effort played good he is loosing so badly
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On May 13 2013 17:49 i.of.the.storm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:46 Insoleet wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:On May 13 2013 17:43 Cokefreak wrote:
This is sad to watch. this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense Its maybe fun from a terran Point of View, but from a Zerg point of view... Its truely abusive. From a skill point of view, it's fun to watch. But from a balance perspective, it's kind of meh, but I don't think the game should be nerfed into boredom like WoL was (IMO). Zoozoovacs are pretty exciting, just paired with hellbats they become stupid.
Ty pulled this off so well. Doing all the Hellbat-dropping while still keeping his minerals below 300 is just really good play. Effort could have defended better, he could have spend his bank better, he could have played less greedy at the start, he could have stopped the Bunker-rush.
Ty just played much better than Effort this game. It was not a close game where both players fight back and forth, it was Ty beating up Effort. And that was entertaining for me
Edit: btw I actually think that Hellbats shouldn't be healed by Medivacs
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On May 13 2013 17:51 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:49 i.of.the.storm wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Insoleet wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:On May 13 2013 17:43 Cokefreak wrote:
This is sad to watch. this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense Its maybe fun from a terran Point of View, but from a Zerg point of view... Its truely abusive. From a skill point of view, it's fun to watch. But from a balance perspective, it's kind of meh, but I don't think the game should be nerfed into boredom like WoL was (IMO). Zoozoovacs are pretty exciting, just paired with hellbats they become stupid. They did damage that game for the same reason most harassment works in games like that and that's that Effort was behind so he skipped defense to try and catch up. The hellbat harassment reminds me a lot of WoL mutas in ZvP in that if you fall behind its just going to get worse and worse for you.
Yeah good point. I still think that hellbats should not be healed by medivacs, it's just completely illogical, but overall no one could look at that game and say Ty did not outplay Effort.
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Come on, Baby. Do it for Major!
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All this talk of making it work makes me think of my hero, Tim Gunn
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reverse all kill please...
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On May 13 2013 17:51 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Sad to watch because even if Effort played good he is loosing so badly
Considering how he lost his natural hatch to a 2 rax bunker rush and was able to live as long as he did it was very impressive.
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On May 13 2013 17:54 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:49 i.of.the.storm wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Insoleet wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:On May 13 2013 17:43 Cokefreak wrote:
This is sad to watch. this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense Its maybe fun from a terran Point of View, but from a Zerg point of view... Its truely abusive. From a skill point of view, it's fun to watch. But from a balance perspective, it's kind of meh, but I don't think the game should be nerfed into boredom like WoL was (IMO). Zoozoovacs are pretty exciting, just paired with hellbats they become stupid. Ty pulled this off so well. Doing all the Hellbat-dropping while still keeping his minerals below 300 is just really good play. Effort could have defended better, he could have spend his bank better, he could have played less greedy at the start, he could have stopped the Bunker-rush. Ty just played much better than Effort this game. It was not a close game where both players fight back and forth, it was Ty beating up Effort. And that was entertaining for me
Its slowly becoming a war of clones, few more terrans with hellbat drops keeping minerals under 300 and we will have that. For our and zergs sake, zerg players need to counter this play, so that terrans will do somethig different, the question is whether something different is as good course of action as dropping + outmacroing.
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On May 13 2013 17:57 i.of.the.storm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:51 Adreme wrote:On May 13 2013 17:49 i.of.the.storm wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Insoleet wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:On May 13 2013 17:43 Cokefreak wrote:
This is sad to watch. this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense Its maybe fun from a terran Point of View, but from a Zerg point of view... Its truely abusive. From a skill point of view, it's fun to watch. But from a balance perspective, it's kind of meh, but I don't think the game should be nerfed into boredom like WoL was (IMO). Zoozoovacs are pretty exciting, just paired with hellbats they become stupid. They did damage that game for the same reason most harassment works in games like that and that's that Effort was behind so he skipped defense to try and catch up. The hellbat harassment reminds me a lot of WoL mutas in ZvP in that if you fall behind its just going to get worse and worse for you. Yeah good point. I still think that hellbats should not be healed by medivacs, it's just completely illogical, but overall no one could look at that game and say Ty did not outplay Effort.
And it's a transformation from hellions, which do not get healed. XD If Blizzard wanted a hellbat like unit to have synergy with bio they should have just brought firebats back, at least those guys cost gas.
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"......" mi-mi-mind mind mind.
May the best turtle win.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
i'm pleasantly surprised baby is playing well again after a prolonged period where he was quite mediocre
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On May 13 2013 18:02 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:57 i.of.the.storm wrote:On May 13 2013 17:51 Adreme wrote:On May 13 2013 17:49 i.of.the.storm wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Insoleet wrote:On May 13 2013 17:46 Yello wrote:On May 13 2013 17:43 Cokefreak wrote:
This is sad to watch. this is amazing to watch. Good decision making by Ty and he always keeps up with the macro. Effort doesn't lose too many Drones but Ty takes a huge supply-lead just by macroing up while microing his Hellbats and forcing Effort to pull Drones off mining and building static defense Its maybe fun from a terran Point of View, but from a Zerg point of view... Its truely abusive. From a skill point of view, it's fun to watch. But from a balance perspective, it's kind of meh, but I don't think the game should be nerfed into boredom like WoL was (IMO). Zoozoovacs are pretty exciting, just paired with hellbats they become stupid. They did damage that game for the same reason most harassment works in games like that and that's that Effort was behind so he skipped defense to try and catch up. The hellbat harassment reminds me a lot of WoL mutas in ZvP in that if you fall behind its just going to get worse and worse for you. Yeah good point. I still think that hellbats should not be healed by medivacs, it's just completely illogical, but overall no one could look at that game and say Ty did not outplay Effort. And it's a transformation from hellions, which do not get healed. XD If Blizzard wanted a hellbat like unit to have synergy with bio they should have just brought firebats back, at least those guys cost gas.
but bringing back any BW unit is admitting their failure in Sc2 so....
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Cool that Hydra and TY are carrying, it's almost as if we were back in the good ol' BW days I hope TY wins this and gets enough confidence to play at a level at least close to his actual talent.
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On May 13 2013 18:05 opterown wrote:
i'm pleasantly surprised baby is playing well again after a prolonged period where he was quite mediocre
The best way to make a player immediately lift their performance is to give them a stupidly low FPL value.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 13 2013 18:08 FuRong wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 18:05 opterown wrote:
i'm pleasantly surprised baby is playing well again after a prolonged period where he was quite mediocre The best way to make a player immediately lift their performance is to give them a stupidly low FPL value.
how many points was baby? i think hydra was 4 or something
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This is as much a surprise as the same set of home-stitched socks that your grandma gives you for christmas every year
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Sneaky sneaky 
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Norway25712 Posts
Drop play getting shut down completely.
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On May 13 2013 18:09 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 18:08 FuRong wrote:On May 13 2013 18:05 opterown wrote:
i'm pleasantly surprised baby is playing well again after a prolonged period where he was quite mediocre The best way to make a player immediately lift their performance is to give them a stupidly low FPL value. how many points was baby? i think hydra was 4 or something
3 points, got em both haha
edit: noooooooooo. -_-
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Poll: Recommend Set 7?Yes (9) 56% If you have time (6) 38% No (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Set 7? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Hmm. What if Ty had used those medivac drops to drop behind the army and on the colossi instead?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51475 Posts
ROFL
Such an SCV massacre xD GG wp HerO
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TY just pulled a BW fantasy
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oh damn 
wp TY
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Aww, good try BaBy
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On May 13 2013 18:15 Heartland wrote:
Hmm. What if Ty had used those medivac drops to drop behind the army and on the colossi instead?
too many blink stalkers around there is no way he could have done that kind of move without losing everything he had at that point. he didnt have very many units in the first place.
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Wow, BaBy looks so...dismantled.
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Weak drops meh, herO was just too focused. TY making no army
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opterown
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herO really needs to change his name to villain now. So evil.
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Norway25712 Posts
Damn... Baby
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Having Hydra, TY and herO on FPL would've brought nice points.
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Some fun harassing into an anti-climatic push. There are games like this, too, I guess.
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solid defense by herO. Well played.
Now gogo EG-TL, Coach Park to save the day
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On May 13 2013 18:14 Cokefreak wrote:
Yeah HerO!
LiquidHerO wasn't playing, this is herO.
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woot just realized i have Hydra on my team :D
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Is it right of me to say, that herO played this defensive two base push, because he realized that TY was playing super-agressive?
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On May 13 2013 18:19 peidongyang wrote:
yess my fpl is saved
I put Hydra on my anti-team thinking he wouldn't do a lot in this winners league portion so my FPL is fubar
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On May 13 2013 18:20 Fluffboll wrote:I put Hydra on my anti-team thinking he wouldn't do a lot in this winners league portion so my FPL is fubar
well cJ won and hydra 3 killed I made some good point although an all kill would have done so much better.
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If Jaedong doesn't do well in the match happening right now I'll probably be back in the top #50 thanks to Ty :D
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Having Hydra and Baby on my main working out nicely.
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On May 13 2013 19:21 Scarecrow wrote:
Having Hydra and Baby on my main working out nicely.
you lucky bastard, 6 wins in an all-kill match O_O
can't complain, got Hydra myself and 1-point CJ is working like a charm, as expected :D
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BaBy broke Hydra's 3-win streak. herO[jOin] broke BaBy's 3-win streak.
Scoring:
CJ +2
T8 +1
Hydra +7
BaBy +8
herO[jOin] +6
all other CJ players +1
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Bumping this because it's important! ^_^
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Aww, well GJ anyway baby, your turning out to be a total darkhorse for my fpl team :D
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herO with a clutch performance. Good on TY for making the comeback!
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Holy shit Baby and Hydra taking me to number 2 FPL. Hot damn, first time I've EVER been in top 100.
I always believed in you Cyclops and Disappointing-Prodigy-with-insane-APM.
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Oh why did I pick the wrong terran in Team 8 for my FPL, Cure when I should have picked TY. Was chosing between them and they cost the same gg
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