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On May 09 2013 03:32 vult wrote:
Stephano needed Broods early on when BK was on 3/4 base, using the Broods to pressure the third in the dead space with corrupter support, while pressuring the 4th/nat with mass SH and taking more bases. instead, Stephano let BK get too much and let him pressure.
How on Earth could he have done that?
You do not need BL's with this composition.
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Am I the only one that still kinda' likes SH play. Most Z still use them badly, but it does lead to interesting positional play. They might just be too weak, just like siege tanks. Mobility in SC2>>>>>>> everything else.
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On May 09 2013 03:33 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:31 Musicus wrote:Hahaha Mana. Grzegorz Komincz @mouzMaNa 1m
@EGStephanoRC You played like shit in game one against babyknight in #WCS my friend. It does worry me somewhat. I wonder if one day, top-tier Zergs like Life will have refined swarmhost play into something as deathball-ish and overpowered as Broodlord infestor was. And that can be frightening
And then the old Mothership makes a comeback.
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On May 09 2013 03:32 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Swarm hosts are officially the worst unit to hit the starcraft franchise. They are terrible to watch, terrible to use and create terrible gameplay situations. Seriously Blizz get ur sh1t together.
i find them interesting to watch, and they are very zerg like with the ability to create units. I would say sentries are the worst unit to hit the starcraft franchise.
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On May 09 2013 03:33 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:31 Musicus wrote:Hahaha Mana. Grzegorz Komincz @mouzMaNa 1m
@EGStephanoRC You played like shit in game one against babyknight in #WCS my friend. It does worry me somewhat. I wonder if one day, top-tier Zergs like Life will have refined swarmhost play into something as deathball-ish and overpowered as Broodlord infestor was. And that can be frightening
If it happens, it's gonna happen way sooner than Infestor-brood happened in WoL, which means Blizzard team will still be invested in the game enough to deal with it.
Wouldn't worry too much.
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Not exactly sure what Stephanos gameplan was. Defend for 50 minutes? He made no attempt of aggression whatsoever so it's hard to tell what he wanted to achieve really.
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i'm surprised people think that was boring. i can see how it might become boring in the future, but we've seen it so little just yet and it's very different from the "old" WoL games it makes it very fun to watch for now.
same with the whole skytoss turtle thingy, i'm actually sad i've only seen like 1 or 2 games of that overall.
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On May 09 2013 03:33 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:31 Musicus wrote:Hahaha Mana. Grzegorz Komincz @mouzMaNa 1m
@EGStephanoRC You played like shit in game one against babyknight in #WCS my friend. It does worry me somewhat. I wonder if one day, top-tier Zergs like Life will have refined swarmhost play into something as deathball-ish and overpowered as Broodlord infestor was. And that can be frightening
Life don't like to play this type of style though.
Life was forced to play BL+Infestor to win his game.
You could tell he like the more mobile style which is way more interesting to watch
I can only picture Symbol/Roro/Soulkey perfecting this style with 100++++spores/spines Mass sh/corrupter with some infestor and viper and slow pushing their opponent to their death
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On May 09 2013 03:33 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:31 Musicus wrote:Hahaha Mana. Grzegorz Komincz @mouzMaNa 1m
@EGStephanoRC You played like shit in game one against babyknight in #WCS my friend. It does worry me somewhat. I wonder if one day, top-tier Zergs like Life will have refined swarmhost play into something as deathball-ish and overpowered as Broodlord infestor was. And that can be frightening
BL/infestor is still good I think. People will come back to it eventually.
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On May 09 2013 03:33 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:32 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Swarm hosts are officially the worst unit to hit the starcraft franchise. They are terrible to watch, terrible to use and create terrible gameplay situations. Seriously Blizz get ur sh1t together. so far they look like Broodlord 2.0 I really hope that there are interesting ways of using Swarmhosts as well, and that those get figured out soon
Blizzard thought process:
Developer A: Hm Broodlords make zvp boring, let's give protoss the new tempest to deal with them.
Developer B: But then Zerg needs something new, like the Broodlord but different.
Developer A: So maybe something like ground Broodlords?
Developer B: Hell yeah, that's perfect, and let's make the burrow so they are even less mobile  .
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On May 09 2013 03:36 Schelim wrote:
i'm surprised people think that was boring. i can see how it might become boring in the future, but we've seen it so little just yet and it's very different from the "old" WoL games it makes it very fun to watch for now.
same with the whole skytoss turtle thingy, i'm actually sad i've only seen like 1 or 2 games of that overall.
It was boring not because of the swarm host... but because it was very poorly executed swarm host that led into the longest death animation in recent memory.
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On May 09 2013 03:36 Mouzone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:33 Bagration wrote:On May 09 2013 03:31 Musicus wrote:Hahaha Mana. Grzegorz Komincz @mouzMaNa 1m
@EGStephanoRC You played like shit in game one against babyknight in #WCS my friend. It does worry me somewhat. I wonder if one day, top-tier Zergs like Life will have refined swarmhost play into something as deathball-ish and overpowered as Broodlord infestor was. And that can be frightening BL/infestor is still good I think. People will come back to it eventually.
Nope.
BL+Infestor has died off.
SH/Corrupters with some Infestor/Viper and mass static defense and slow pushing will be the future of ZvP late game and that looks grim.
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On May 09 2013 03:37 Yello wrote:best Danish player is still ActionJesuz + Show Spoiler +
Best player, best name.
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On May 09 2013 03:32 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:30 Roman666 wrote:On May 09 2013 03:27 Swords wrote:On May 09 2013 03:26 Roman666 wrote:
I hate to even suggest it, but brood lords/infestor may be the answer here again. Even more free units! Heh, at least they dont die to lazors. Seeing the collosi as the main damage dealer in the army, I would counter it with some BLs. Yeah, I saw Yugioh last night play Infestor/SH/BL and it was extremely powerful and extremely stupid. He walked up to Paralyze and it looked like they were playing on that TL attack map where you can build 500+ supply, except all of the units were free and Paralyze wasn't allowed to go over the 200/200 cap.
Saw that. Agree, it was a nonsense.
Lets be frank here. ZvP late game can be pretty much ridiculous in the current state of the game. There is an option of going ultra, and I am thinking it could work against the composition that BK had. He had what 2 immortals at some point? Ling/ultra/infestor could be the tech switch that Stephano needed here. He could throw in some runbys and stretch toss thin.
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On May 09 2013 03:37 Yello wrote:best Danish player is still ActionJesuz + Show Spoiler +
I love that pic
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On May 09 2013 03:27 tomwizz wrote:
Locust out > Protoss pull back
Locust die > Protoss attack
Locust out again > Protoss pull back again
Neverending loop.
Almost like sex isn't it? :D
Just not as fun...
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On May 09 2013 03:34 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:32 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Swarm hosts are officially the worst unit to hit the starcraft franchise. They are terrible to watch, terrible to use and create terrible gameplay situations. Seriously Blizz get ur sh1t together. what about the WARHOUND? 
Well at least it was hysterically funny to watch them in action.
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So obvious Stephano has still not practiced that much HoTs tbh.
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On May 09 2013 03:39 xinxy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 03:27 tomwizz wrote:
Locust out > Protoss pull back
Locust die > Protoss attack
Locust out again > Protoss pull back again
Neverending loop. Almost like sex isn't it? :D Just not as fun...
And definetly lasts much longer :D.
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