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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 06 2013 13:02 GMT
#21
On May 06 2013 20:51 Qikz wrote:
4-1 to SKT with Bisu grabbing the reverse all kill. It's winners league! :D

I'm not sure which is less plausible, a reverse all-kill in less than 7 games or Bisu winning 4 times.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 06 2013 13:19 GMT
#22
I hope Bisu gets played. And smashes the shit outta Innovation. It would hurt my FPL team but it would please my soul.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 13:23:57
May 06 2013 13:23 GMT
#23
hyvaa all kill! Hopefully Dear plays tonight to defend his UWC title
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
May 06 2013 13:29 GMT
#24
On May 06 2013 21:21 opterown wrote:
paint banners make my eyes bleed too, i honestly prefer generic banners over gaudy ones


but generic ones are just too generic, I miss the days when everyone tried to make their LR threads look good in their own way, admittedly this behavior came with the price of bisudagger's LR threads.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 06 2013 13:45 GMT
#25
On May 06 2013 22:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 21:21 opterown wrote:
paint banners make my eyes bleed too, i honestly prefer generic banners over gaudy ones


but generic ones are just too generic, I miss the days when everyone tried to make their LR threads look good in their own way, admittedly this behavior came with the price of bisudagger's LR threads.

it's already difficult enough getting people to make the LRs in a timely manner, gonna be hard to get said LRers to make their own banners and stuff too! haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 13:53:46
May 06 2013 13:53 GMT
#26
On May 06 2013 22:45 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 22:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 06 2013 21:21 opterown wrote:
paint banners make my eyes bleed too, i honestly prefer generic banners over gaudy ones


but generic ones are just too generic, I miss the days when everyone tried to make their LR threads look good in their own way, admittedly this behavior came with the price of bisudagger's LR threads.

it's already difficult enough getting people to make the LRs in a timely manner, gonna be hard to get said LRers to make their own banners and stuff too! haha


TL needs to hire you. And you know, pay actual money instead of karma

6666 posts, sick.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 06 2013 13:55 GMT
#27
On May 06 2013 22:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 22:45 opterown wrote:
On May 06 2013 22:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 06 2013 21:21 opterown wrote:
paint banners make my eyes bleed too, i honestly prefer generic banners over gaudy ones


but generic ones are just too generic, I miss the days when everyone tried to make their LR threads look good in their own way, admittedly this behavior came with the price of bisudagger's LR threads.

it's already difficult enough getting people to make the LRs in a timely manner, gonna be hard to get said LRers to make their own banners and stuff too! haha


TL needs to hire you. And you know, pay actual money instead of karma

6666 posts, sick.

i think a lot of people TL hire aren't paid anyway, it would be unbecoming for me to ask for money! haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 14:04:03
May 06 2013 14:03 GMT
#28
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.
Play your best
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 14:10:43
May 06 2013 14:06 GMT
#29
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him. Nothing against Parting but imo he's the most overhyped player in the world. He's sick good and probably the second best protoss behind Rain but people overhype him so much that he even dropped from my favorites list. I don't know why but people have a tendency to play bad against him (Flash, Life in GSL). If they don't (Curious, Life in GSL, Dream at IEM), he ends up getting annihilated.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 14:12:44
May 06 2013 14:09 GMT
#30
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.

I believe Rain is capable of beating Bogus.

As far as Bisu goes, I think that he is capable of beating anyone. it's like no matter how bad he does/slumps/looks worse then the other opponent sometimes he gets this look in his eyes and you just know that he's going to win. Like when coach Park sent him as ace in the PL finals. His hands just start moving for him and beauty happens.




edit: The day I see a protoss be able to play like this in SC2 I will cry tears of joy and then sponsor the very first MS2L 1.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 14:13:10
May 06 2013 14:10 GMT
#31
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.
Play your best
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
May 06 2013 14:14 GMT
#32
On May 06 2013 23:10 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.

EG-TL strongest line is still the worst team in the league
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 14:20:14
May 06 2013 14:18 GMT
#33
On May 06 2013 23:10 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.


I don't agree with this. Rain is super super super solid. Nothing will break Rain. However I remember how Parting just fell apart against people like Mvp, Life, Dream, Curious, ...
I've never seen that happen to Rain. He loses sometimes when he gets unlucky with build orders or when he plays a god tier player like Mvp back then or Innovation + Show Spoiler +
or HERO <3
now but still puts up a tough fight. Otherwise Rain doesn't actually lose.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
May 06 2013 14:21 GMT
#34
On May 06 2013 23:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:10 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.


I don't agree with this. Rain is super super super solid. Nothing will break Rain. However I remember how Parting just fell apart against people like Mvp, Life, Dream, Curious, ...
I've never seen that happen to Rain. He loses sometimes when he gets unlucky with build orders or when he plays a god tier player like Mvp back then or Innovation + Show Spoiler +
or HERO <3
now but still puts up a tough fight. Otherwise Rain doesn't actually lose.


Ironic that you say Dream. That's exactly who murdered Rain lol
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 06 2013 14:22 GMT
#35
On May 06 2013 23:21 TimENT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:10 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.


I don't agree with this. Rain is super super super solid. Nothing will break Rain. However I remember how Parting just fell apart against people like Mvp, Life, Dream, Curious, ...
I've never seen that happen to Rain. He loses sometimes when he gets unlucky with build orders or when he plays a god tier player like Mvp back then or Innovation + Show Spoiler +
or HERO <3
now but still puts up a tough fight. Otherwise Rain doesn't actually lose.


Ironic that you say Dream. That's exactly who murdered Rain lol


I'm aware and that's the only time that comes to mind when Rain looked outclassed. Been a fan of Dream ever since.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
May 06 2013 14:37 GMT
#36
On May 06 2013 23:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:10 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.


I don't agree with this. Rain is super super super solid. Nothing will break Rain. However I remember how Parting just fell apart against people like Mvp, Life, Dream, Curious, ...
I've never seen that happen to Rain. He loses sometimes when he gets unlucky with build orders or when he plays a god tier player like Mvp back then or Innovation + Show Spoiler +
or HERO <3
now but still puts up a tough fight. Otherwise Rain doesn't actually lose.


Originally I wanted to disagree, but from his last 10 games or so, his only losses were PvP, with 3 PvT wins over Cure, Last and Reality. Then again, neither of them is a top terran like Innovation is. When Rain is in his best shape, I can certainly see him beat Innovation, like Soulkey did, with perfect cost-efficient defense. But I don´t know if he´s really in this shape right now.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
May 06 2013 15:01 GMT
#37
On May 06 2013 23:37 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:10 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.


I don't agree with this. Rain is super super super solid. Nothing will break Rain. However I remember how Parting just fell apart against people like Mvp, Life, Dream, Curious, ...
I've never seen that happen to Rain. He loses sometimes when he gets unlucky with build orders or when he plays a god tier player like Mvp back then or Innovation + Show Spoiler +
or HERO <3
now but still puts up a tough fight. Otherwise Rain doesn't actually lose.


Originally I wanted to disagree, but from his last 10 games or so, his only losses were PvP, with 3 PvT wins over Cure, Last and Reality. Then again, neither of them is a top terran like Innovation is. When Rain is in his best shape, I can certainly see him beat Innovation, like Soulkey did, with perfect cost-efficient defense. But I don´t know if he´s really in this shape right now.

PvP's are the reason why SKT isn't #1. Bisu wouldn't have losses if he didn't get PvP sniped all the time. We would have won all our ace matches too and be in first place. PvP is very volatile still. Rain is not consistent on a Bo1 basis in PvP neither is the rest of SKT protoss unfortunately.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 06 2013 15:07 GMT
#38
On May 06 2013 23:09 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.

As far as Bisu goes, I think that he is capable of beating anyone. it's like no matter how bad he does/slumps/looks worse then the other opponent sometimes he gets this look in his eyes and you just know that he's going to win. Like when coach Park sent him as ace in the PL finals. His hands just start moving for him and beauty happens.

Assuming he gets sent out on a sufficiently broken map.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
May 06 2013 15:09 GMT
#39
On May 07 2013 00:01 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 23:37 Daswollvieh wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:10 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.


I don't agree with this. Rain is super super super solid. Nothing will break Rain. However I remember how Parting just fell apart against people like Mvp, Life, Dream, Curious, ...
I've never seen that happen to Rain. He loses sometimes when he gets unlucky with build orders or when he plays a god tier player like Mvp back then or Innovation + Show Spoiler +
or HERO <3
now but still puts up a tough fight. Otherwise Rain doesn't actually lose.


Originally I wanted to disagree, but from his last 10 games or so, his only losses were PvP, with 3 PvT wins over Cure, Last and Reality. Then again, neither of them is a top terran like Innovation is. When Rain is in his best shape, I can certainly see him beat Innovation, like Soulkey did, with perfect cost-efficient defense. But I don´t know if he´s really in this shape right now.

PvP's are the reason why SKT isn't #1. Bisu wouldn't have losses if he didn't get PvP sniped all the time. We would have won all our ace matches too and be in first place. PvP is very volatile still. Rain is not consistent on a Bo1 basis in PvP neither is the rest of SKT protoss unfortunately.


I can agree with this too. PvP definately seems to be atleast Bisu's worst matchup right now.
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May 06 2013 15:33 GMT
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On May 07 2013 00:09 Qikz wrote:
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On May 07 2013 00:01 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:37 Daswollvieh wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:10 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 06 2013 23:03 FakeDeath wrote:
@DarkLordOlli
Bisu skill is a farcry from Bogus skill now.
Sorry Bisu fans but this is the reality now and it's hard to accept.

But Bogus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisu.
Man IF Bisu can actually play Bogus and win(super super slim chance).
People will start calling Bisu " the best player in the world ".
=.=

Seriously though,I don't think Bisu is coming out.

It's obviously gonna be Rain,Parting and Fantasy after Brown.

Only Parting can stand a chance against Bogus but even then Bogus is still favored.


I know.

Also Rain > Parting. Rain did beat Bogus 2-1 in GSL while Parting was lucky enough to avoid him.


Yeah.
Rain has the best chance though.
But head to head still favors Bogus.

Bogus is just looking so beastly.
He practically all-killed EG-TL strongest line-up easily.
Shy has the best chance to stop Bogus.

@BisuDagger

That was in BW sadly.
Bisu on form could slayed anyone.
I don't think anyone doubt that.

@DarkLordOlli
I still think Rain is better than Parting but only slightly.
The gap between Rain and Parting is really small.


I don't agree with this. Rain is super super super solid. Nothing will break Rain. However I remember how Parting just fell apart against people like Mvp, Life, Dream, Curious, ...
I've never seen that happen to Rain. He loses sometimes when he gets unlucky with build orders or when he plays a god tier player like Mvp back then or Innovation + Show Spoiler +
or HERO <3
now but still puts up a tough fight. Otherwise Rain doesn't actually lose.


Originally I wanted to disagree, but from his last 10 games or so, his only losses were PvP, with 3 PvT wins over Cure, Last and Reality. Then again, neither of them is a top terran like Innovation is. When Rain is in his best shape, I can certainly see him beat Innovation, like Soulkey did, with perfect cost-efficient defense. But I don´t know if he´s really in this shape right now.

PvP's are the reason why SKT isn't #1. Bisu wouldn't have losses if he didn't get PvP sniped all the time. We would have won all our ace matches too and be in first place. PvP is very volatile still. Rain is not consistent on a Bo1 basis in PvP neither is the rest of SKT protoss unfortunately.


I can agree with this too. PvP definately seems to be atleast Bisu's worst matchup right now.

Yup, even talking with friends who play him on the korean server say they have beaten him in PvP. PvP became his worst matchup at the end up SC1 too.
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