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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
April 18 2013 12:31 GMT
#1921
I'm back, HerO actually won that game.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 12:32:07
April 18 2013 12:31 GMT
#1922
I love this joke haha :D
(Sick city, that is)
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
April 18 2013 12:31 GMT
#1923
On April 18 2013 21:28 SibChil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:26 Weirdkid wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:26 SibChil wrote:
At least we won't have to endure a ZvZ today

You make it sound like someone's forcing you to watch


Some habits are hard to break, GSL Code S being one of them :D

Hahaha ya I guess so
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
April 18 2013 12:31 GMT
#1924
music name?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 18 2013 12:31 GMT
#1925
sick city is awesome.
The Bomber boy
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 18 2013 12:31 GMT
#1926
The big decider! Gogo!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 18 2013 12:31 GMT
#1927
On April 18 2013 21:27 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:24 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:21 Tsubbi wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:17 TheDwf wrote:
It's hilarious how they fail to scout and adapt easily defendable cheesy stuff.


first off there is nothing cheesy about this build lol

now id like to see a single game where this gets defended with terran being behind

Sorry but your comprehension of the game is really poor if you don't understand that a gas first Reactor Hellion drop expanding at 6'25 is cheesy. Zerg has every tool needed to reliably get ahead 100% of the time with the proper answers.


i dont know, im playing at high master/low gm level and the timing at which this hits is really early, also its impossible to scout it in time to build spines in mineral lines so you rely on lings and queens, thats why its always cost efficient (also spines dont do much vs hellbats anyways)

"Impossible to scout it in time"... Do you even believe what you're saying? Drone scout to see gas first → know it's a Reactor Hellion drop (confirm with Overlord poke/sacrifice if you feel you need it) → one Spine per mineral line + Roaches (some left to defend, some go at Terran's base to pressure/contain natural if there is a Bunker there). Focus the Medivac with Queens, run Drones around the Hatchery to mitigate casualities, resume 100% Drone production, enjoy being miles ahead. There, /Maru's build.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 18 2013 12:32 GMT
#1928
On April 18 2013 21:30 pmp10 wrote:
On the brighter side sniper is crushing ryung in ATC so maybe TvZ isn't completely broken.


Or blue flame openings are super bad!
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 18 2013 12:32 GMT
#1929
On April 18 2013 21:28 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:24 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:21 Tsubbi wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:17 TheDwf wrote:
It's hilarious how they fail to scout and adapt easily defendable cheesy stuff.


first off there is nothing cheesy about this build lol

now id like to see a single game where this gets defended with terran being behind

Sorry but your comprehension of the game is really poor if you don't understand that a gas first Reactor Hellion drop expanding at 6'25 is cheesy. Zerg has every tool needed to reliably get ahead 100% of the time with the proper answers.



No its not cheesy, Its just a slightly delayed expansion timing and ideal to transition into mech.

The only thing making it an "ideal transition" into mech is the fact that the zerg botches the defence, which, is hardly something to rely on.
"NO" -Has
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 18 2013 12:32 GMT
#1930
On April 18 2013 21:30 pmp10 wrote:
On the brighter side sniper is crushing ryung in ATC so maybe TvZ isn't completely broken.


I don't think any one talks about broken, current meta is in favor of Terran though.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 12:32 GMT
#1931
WCS KR S1 2013 Code S Ro32
[image loading] (Z)Soulkey vs [image loading] (T)Maru
Game 1
Map: Red City

0:00
Soulkey spawns in the bottom left
Maru spawns in the top right
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 18 2013 12:33 GMT
#1932
On April 18 2013 21:30 pmp10 wrote:
On the brighter side sniper is crushing ryung in ATC so maybe TvZ isn't completely broken.

Well Sniper IS a GSL champion.
Oh and did Ryung his imba imba imba nonsense again when lost?
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 12:34:00
April 18 2013 12:33 GMT
#1933
On April 18 2013 21:26 Zinthar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:21 shadymmj wrote:
a guy making only lings and couple queens with spines loses to hellion/hellbat drops? who woulda thought?


You're kidding, right? The hellbat drop is obscenely cheap -- 200 minerals for the pair, 300/100 if you include the medivac that won't die anyway.

Unless you're implying that it's only logical that it should be countered in a manner that's so incredibly cost-inefficient as to make the game a sure loss anyway (see Maru-Soulkey G1 for an example).


eh? because tier 1 units should win against tier 2 units that cost gas to unlock?
not to mention the fact that hellions are the counter to lings, so...

a 1 gas late expand...yeah, it's gonna be tech aggression, that's not hard to recognise.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 12:33 GMT
#1934
On April 18 2013 21:33 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:30 pmp10 wrote:
On the brighter side sniper is crushing ryung in ATC so maybe TvZ isn't completely broken.

Well Sniper IS a GSL champion.
Oh and did Ryung his imba imba imba nonsense again when lost?

shit I didnt realize they were playing right now D:
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 18 2013 12:33 GMT
#1935
On April 18 2013 21:28 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:24 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:21 Tsubbi wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:17 TheDwf wrote:
It's hilarious how they fail to scout and adapt easily defendable cheesy stuff.


first off there is nothing cheesy about this build lol

now id like to see a single game where this gets defended with terran being behind

Sorry but your comprehension of the game is really poor if you don't understand that a gas first Reactor Hellion drop expanding at 6'25 is cheesy. Zerg has every tool needed to reliably get ahead 100% of the time with the proper answers.



No its not cheesy, Its just a slightly delayed expansion timing and ideal to transition into mech.

"Cheese most often refers to an unexpected strategy that relies in large parts on lack of information and/or psychological impact on the opponent." Fits 100% there.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
April 18 2013 12:34 GMT
#1936
Coz he didn't what??
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 12:35:20
April 18 2013 12:34 GMT
#1937
On April 18 2013 21:34 Weirdkid wrote:
Coz he didn't what??


Didn't want a Kerrigan!

+ Show Spoiler +
"want to care again"
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 12:35:25
April 18 2013 12:35 GMT
#1938
On April 18 2013 21:31 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:27 Tsubbi wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:24 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:21 Tsubbi wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:17 TheDwf wrote:
It's hilarious how they fail to scout and adapt easily defendable cheesy stuff.


first off there is nothing cheesy about this build lol

now id like to see a single game where this gets defended with terran being behind

Sorry but your comprehension of the game is really poor if you don't understand that a gas first Reactor Hellion drop expanding at 6'25 is cheesy. Zerg has every tool needed to reliably get ahead 100% of the time with the proper answers.


i dont know, im playing at high master/low gm level and the timing at which this hits is really early, also its impossible to scout it in time to build spines in mineral lines so you rely on lings and queens, thats why its always cost efficient (also spines dont do much vs hellbats anyways)

"Impossible to scout it in time"... Do you even believe what you're saying? Drone scout to see gas first → know it's a Reactor Hellion drop (confirm with Overlord poke/sacrifice if you feel you need it) → one Spine per mineral line + Roaches (some left to defend, some go at Terran's base to pressure/contain natural if there is a Bunker there). Focus the Medivac with Queens, run Drones around the Hatchery to mitigate casualities, resume 100% Drone production, enjoy being miles ahead. There, /Maru's build.


impossible to scout the followup of the gas first rector hellions, u know its not guaranteed to be a medivac followup,

also this hits at 6 mins with 4 hellions and first 2 hellbats around 7 mins, you cant just have "a spine in each mineral line, some roaches here and there and some for a counterattack too", ive seen this exact build a dozen of times and it hasnt lost a single time, care to show us an example of how to play against it?
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
April 18 2013 12:35 GMT
#1939
On April 18 2013 21:34 Weirdkid wrote:
Coz he didn't what??

want to care again
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 12:35 GMT
#1940
On April 18 2013 21:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
WCS KR S1 2013 Code S Ro32
[image loading] (Z)Soulkey vs [image loading] (T)Maru
Game 1
Map: Red City

0:00
Soulkey spawns in the bottom left
Maru spawns in the top right

2:00
CC first on the low ground for Maru
hatch first for Soulkey
gas for Soulkey
gas for Maru
pool for Soulkey

3:00
rax for Maru

4:00
ling speed for Soulkey
Factory for Maru
reactor for Maru
2nd gas for Maru

5:00
Starport for Maru
reactored hellion production started for Maru
3rd base for Soulkey
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