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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
April 18 2013 12:42 GMT
#1961
On April 18 2013 21:41 Heartland wrote:
I wonder if a few progamers on twitter are eating their words now : P


Who tweeted what?
hundred thousand krouner
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 12:42 GMT
#1962
On April 18 2013 21:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
WCS KR S1 2013 Code S Ro32
[image loading] (Z)Soulkey vs [image loading] (T)Maru
Game 1
Map: Red City

0:00
Soulkey spawns in the bottom left
Maru spawns in the top right

2:00
CC first on the low ground for Maru
hatch first for Soulkey
gas for Soulkey
gas for Maru
pool for Soulkey

3:00
rax for Maru

4:00
ling speed for Soulkey
Factory for Maru
reactor for Maru
2nd gas for Maru

5:00
Starport for Maru
reactored hellion production started for Maru
3rd base for Soulkey

6:00
2nd gas for Soulkey
Roach warren for Soulkey
medivac for Maru
Starport scouted by the overlord
3rd CC started for Maru inside his main spotted by the overlord
tech lab for Maru

7:00
bunker in the natural for Maru
double ebay for Maru
roach production started for Soulkey
viking for Maru
12 roaches coming out for Soulkey
widow mine production started for Maru
hellion drop in the main of Soulkey
+1 attack started for Maru
stim research started for Maru

8:00
hellion drop kills 7 drones before it is cleaned up
Roaches of Soulkey moving across hte map
Marauders coming out for Maru
double evo for Soulkey
2 more rax for Maru
lings ralling up with the roaches
lings bait the widow mine

9:00
lings are cleaned up by hellions
roaches fighting the bunker in the natural
more lings come in
+1 armor on the way for Maru
1-1 ling upgrades for Soulkey
Soulkey kills the bunker in the natural of Maru
burrow research for Soulkey
16 scvs of Maru have died

10:00
Maru cleans up the attack in his natural
Lair on the way for Soulkey
armory for Maru
Soulkey 24 workers ahead
combat shields for Maru
baneling nest for Soulkey

11:00
2 more gas for Soulkey
+2 attack started for Maru
Spire started for Soukey
baneling speed started for Soulkey
Maru pushing towards the 3rd of SOulkey
ling runby to the natural of Maru

12:00
Maru doesnt split vs the banes at his attack at the 3rd
Soulkey cleans up Maru's attack
Maru has to lift his 3rd base
+2 armor started for Maru
2 more rax for Maru
Maru cleans up the ling runby
4th base for Soulkey

13:00
overlord speed for Soulkey
muta production started for Soulkey
2-2 started for Soulkey
2nd factory for Maru
+1 flier attack started for Soulkey
double drop in the main of Soulkey

14:00
mutas and lings clean up the drop of Maru
Soulkey 20 supply ahead now
+3 attack started for Maru
2 more gas for Soulkey

15:00
drilling claws for Maru
burrow research started for Soulkey
infestation pit for Soulkey
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 18 2013 12:43 GMT
#1963
"Hitting hard!"
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 18 2013 12:43 GMT
#1964
Now THAT is a split! Wow!
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Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
April 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#1965
What a disaster for Maru, Soulkey really is good.
Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#1966
maru doesn't seem to like microing on multiple fronts ;;
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#1967
On April 18 2013 21:42 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:41 Heartland wrote:
I wonder if a few progamers on twitter are eating their words now : P


Who tweeted what?


@LiquidRet 13m

Let's wait till flash wins 3 gsls and then we get a patch..with WCS/DH next week..this sucksl. Already did 3 tournaments in this garbage

@AcerScarlett 33m

at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
April 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#1968
KESPA KESPA KESPA KESPA
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#1969
Maru getting out-multitasked so hard this game
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#1970
Looks like Soulkey didn't take a page out of Life's book but rather ripped out a chapter.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 18 2013 12:45 GMT
#1971
zergfavored map...m nerf zergmap xD

I have not seen a zerg loose on this map....
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 18 2013 12:45 GMT
#1972
Oh, +1 armor for mech/air wut?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Zinthar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States394 Posts
April 18 2013 12:45 GMT
#1973
On April 18 2013 21:33 shadymmj wrote:
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On April 18 2013 21:26 Zinthar wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:21 shadymmj wrote:
a guy making only lings and couple queens with spines loses to hellion/hellbat drops? who woulda thought?


You're kidding, right? The hellbat drop is obscenely cheap -- 200 minerals for the pair, 300/100 if you include the medivac that won't die anyway.

Unless you're implying that it's only logical that it should be countered in a manner that's so incredibly cost-inefficient as to make the game a sure loss anyway (see Maru-Soulkey G1 for an example).


eh? because tier 1 units should win against tier 2 units that cost gas to unlock?
not to mention the fact that hellions are the counter to lings, so...

a 1 gas late expand...yeah, it's gonna be tech aggression, that's not hard to recognise.


Obviously the lings shouldn't kill the hellbats, but because they have so much health and can be healed by the medivac, you need at least 2-3 spine crawlers per base, and excellent running/splitting to handle a 2 hellbat drop.

The best way to stop it is to destroy the medivac quickly and prevent the healing and force terran to spend something on the drop, but one spore & a queen generally won't stop one medivac (it might prevent a 2nd successive drop because the medivac will have low health).

But above all else, the hellbat drop can instantly end the game if it works, but is probably just a minor inconvenience if it fails (they're really just the meatshield in a gas-centric mech army anyway).
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 18 2013 12:45 GMT
#1974
On April 18 2013 21:35 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:31 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:27 Tsubbi wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:24 TheDwf wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:21 Tsubbi wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:17 TheDwf wrote:
It's hilarious how they fail to scout and adapt easily defendable cheesy stuff.


first off there is nothing cheesy about this build lol

now id like to see a single game where this gets defended with terran being behind

Sorry but your comprehension of the game is really poor if you don't understand that a gas first Reactor Hellion drop expanding at 6'25 is cheesy. Zerg has every tool needed to reliably get ahead 100% of the time with the proper answers.


i dont know, im playing at high master/low gm level and the timing at which this hits is really early, also its impossible to scout it in time to build spines in mineral lines so you rely on lings and queens, thats why its always cost efficient (also spines dont do much vs hellbats anyways)

"Impossible to scout it in time"... Do you even believe what you're saying? Drone scout to see gas first → know it's a Reactor Hellion drop (confirm with Overlord poke/sacrifice if you feel you need it) → one Spine per mineral line + Roaches (some left to defend, some go at Terran's base to pressure/contain natural if there is a Bunker there). Focus the Medivac with Queens, run Drones around the Hatchery to mitigate casualities, resume 100% Drone production, enjoy being miles ahead. There, /Maru's build.


impossible to scout the followup of the gas first rector hellions, u know its not guaranteed to be a medivac followup,

also this hits at 6 mins with 4 hellions and first 2 hellbats around 7 mins, you cant just have "a spine in each mineral line, some roaches here and there and some for a counterattack too", ive seen this exact build a dozen of times and it hasnt lost a single time, care to show us an example of how to play against it?

Yeah, the Medivac is out at 5'50 but the drop hits at 6' because the Medivac instantly teleports in Zerg's mineral line after channeling a few seconds, and the Armory starts at 6'30 but the first 2 hellbats are there "around 7 mins". Whatever, keep fooling yourself.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 18 2013 12:46 GMT
#1975
Wow that map seems so fucking long.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 12:46 GMT
#1976
On April 18 2013 21:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 18 2013 21:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
WCS KR S1 2013 Code S Ro32
[image loading] (Z)Soulkey vs [image loading] (T)Maru
Game 1
Map: Red City

0:00
Soulkey spawns in the bottom left
Maru spawns in the top right

2:00
CC first on the low ground for Maru
hatch first for Soulkey
gas for Soulkey
gas for Maru
pool for Soulkey

3:00
rax for Maru

4:00
ling speed for Soulkey
Factory for Maru
reactor for Maru
2nd gas for Maru

5:00
Starport for Maru
reactored hellion production started for Maru
3rd base for Soulkey

6:00
2nd gas for Soulkey
Roach warren for Soulkey
medivac for Maru
Starport scouted by the overlord
3rd CC started for Maru inside his main spotted by the overlord
tech lab for Maru

7:00
bunker in the natural for Maru
double ebay for Maru
roach production started for Soulkey
viking for Maru
12 roaches coming out for Soulkey
widow mine production started for Maru
hellion drop in the main of Soulkey
+1 attack started for Maru
stim research started for Maru

8:00
hellion drop kills 7 drones before it is cleaned up
Roaches of Soulkey moving across hte map
Marauders coming out for Maru
double evo for Soulkey
2 more rax for Maru
lings ralling up with the roaches
lings bait the widow mine

9:00
lings are cleaned up by hellions
roaches fighting the bunker in the natural
more lings come in
+1 armor on the way for Maru
1-1 ling upgrades for Soulkey
Soulkey kills the bunker in the natural of Maru
burrow research for Soulkey
16 scvs of Maru have died

10:00
Maru cleans up the attack in his natural
Lair on the way for Soulkey
armory for Maru
Soulkey 24 workers ahead
combat shields for Maru
baneling nest for Soulkey

11:00
2 more gas for Soulkey
+2 attack started for Maru
Spire started for Soukey
baneling speed started for Soulkey
Maru pushing towards the 3rd of SOulkey
ling runby to the natural of Maru

12:00
Maru doesnt split vs the banes at his attack at the 3rd
Soulkey cleans up Maru's attack
Maru has to lift his 3rd base
+2 armor started for Maru
2 more rax for Maru
Maru cleans up the ling runby
4th base for Soulkey

13:00
overlord speed for Soulkey
muta production started for Soulkey
2-2 started for Soulkey
2nd factory for Maru
+1 flier attack started for Soulkey
double drop in the main of Soulkey

14:00
mutas and lings clean up the drop of Maru
Soulkey 20 supply ahead now
+3 attack started for Maru
2 more gas for Soulkey

15:00
drilling claws for Maru
burrow research started for Soulkey
infestation pit for Soulkey

16:00
+3 armor started for Maru
4th CC for Maru
+2 flier attack for Soulkey
Soulkey looking to backstab as Maru pushes out but widow mines make him turn around
mutas catch a full medivac of Maru but Maru boosts away
armies engage in the middle of the map
Maru splitting against the banes
Soulkey still 20 supply ahead

17:00
Hive on the way for Soulkey
Soulkey going for a backstab attack
Maru's mines werent burroweed
banelings roll into the natural mineral line and kill all of hte scvs
Soulkey defends Maru's main push at his 3rd
Soulkey 50 supply ahead

18:00
Maru floating out his 4th base
adrenal glands for Soulkey
3-3 for soulkey
ultralisk cavern for Soulkey
Soulkey throws away a few mutas for no reason against marines
+1 vehicle plating for Maru

19:00
PF morphing at Maru's 4th
2 more rax for Maru
5th base on the way for SOulkey
Soulkey going for an attack at Maru's 4th

20:00
Mutas are able to kill off the cc
Maru drops the 5th of Soulkey but lings force the drop to lift
Maru drops in the main but the lings force a lift again
mutas kill the medivac
+3 flier attack for Soulkey
ultras started for Soulkey
chitinous plating for Soulkey
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 18 2013 12:46 GMT
#1977
Using CC in main to get a fourth. Eeeep
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
April 18 2013 12:47 GMT
#1978
sick widow mines
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
April 18 2013 12:47 GMT
#1979
maru's split is way better than flash's tho
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 18 2013 12:48 GMT
#1980
Damn, that one mine hit is gonna change things, but I still thinks Soulkey has this
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
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