[Code S] RO32 Group B 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 - Page 103

On April 09 2013 22:55 Kommander wrote:


Nahh, have to go eat some sinigang

On April 09 2013 22:53 roym899 wrote:
Blade isn't a pro player. He's really good but no pro. I don't say it's impossible to win with SH, but imho it's a lot harder then to win with other units you can get for the same money.

On April 09 2013 22:56 opisska wrote:
I was really excited by the last game and I game here to enjoy this excitement with other people - and just what the fuck? The thread is full of people complaining about the last game? Yes, this game was really embrassing, but the embarassed party is the majority of this forums, the people who continually whine about how bad the game is and how Blizzard can't do anything right. Because now you can see it that they did it, they have made PvZ actually entertaining.

At the end of WoL I found myself sometimes just purposefully skipping PvZ, because they were either some quick mid-game action or BL/infestor. It doesn't matter that sometimes it got long and almost mined out and whatever, because it was always about the impossiblity to face BL/infestor and it was just the same thing happening, only taking more time. But now it is completely different and that's a huge success for HoTS.

On April 09 2013 22:43 Insoleet wrote:


Yes he was. Too inactive, where its a unit that needs to move a lot, launch a wave, move, launch a wave, move... Its pretty hard to use, but at my level (EU mid-master) i'm starting to get a hand on it.

Maybe because it takes too much time to be used too it, pro didnt start practicing it, thinking there are better units to use.

On April 09 2013 22:56 Zinthar wrote:


That seems to be easier said than done... and the few times he did try to move out to launch a wave (like when he went to launch one at Flying's fifth base (the left-hand one), he was almost caught out in the open by blink stalkers.

So basically that only works if the opponent is terribly out of position -- the type of mistake that most at that level aren't going to make. And even if it does work, you can't risk more than one locust spawn, so you better have committed to swarm hosts so heavily that you can kill whatever you're going after -- if you just knock the shields off of a nexus it was probably a complete waste.

Maybe someone will find a way to work them into a build, but it seems unlikely because they're so expensive and seem to only be viable when you commit to making a ton of them. But even then they're about as immobile as siege tanks and need loads of support to engage an army. But trying to take on the Protoss deathball is exactly what Zerg doesn't want to do.

Is there some type of potential synergy I'm missing? They seem less suited to Zerg than siege tanks are to Terran, which themselves are out of favor outside of TvT for similar reasons.

On April 09 2013 22:59 ETisME wrote:

he is using muta at the same time. I doubt you are going mass muta with viper and also another ground for swarm host

On April 09 2013 22:59 Wintex wrote:

StarTale_Life is one of, if not the best. In my eyes, he is pure brilliance. Above my Bomber.The one of the only players I regard as a player that is purely stronger. My own opinion tho.

On April 09 2013 22:59 Ramiz1989 wrote:

True, because they need a lot more work around them than around any other Zerg units, but once you master them, they are actually pretty good. That is our whole point.

On April 09 2013 22:38 Kommander wrote:
lol at this LR, some people saying it's a sick game, nice game, etc., some saying it's the worst, bad game, etc. :p

On April 09 2013 22:51 Big J wrote:


oh fuck off. It was Flying who turtled on 3bases. Then turtled on 4bases. Then built a 5th base and tried to turtle on that while DRG was trying to get something done all the time with roach/hydra/viper, mutas, swarm hosts...

That's not to say that I'm against Flyings playstyle, but Flying was the defensive player most of the game and hardly ever did more than limiting DRGs offensive movement with his own movement.

On April 09 2013 23:11 govie wrote:
Would be fun if flying tells us afterwards that he didnt want to engage the muta's because they bad lategame^^ :D

On April 09 2013 23:00 Insoleet wrote:


Yes, but obviously, mass muta lategame is bad, as it was in wol.

Muta is better than in WoL, but its still not a lategame unit.

On April 09 2013 23:06 Arceus wrote:


I was enjoying the game up until DRG lost all hydra/roach composition, he started massing mutas. I was like, ok hes doing a good job of keeping Flying at bay, lets expand, tech and roll. Fuck no he built spines & some SHs to turtle and tried as hard as he could to win with 4 dozens of mutas. The disappointing face after DRG lost can be interpreted as "fuck, I thought this many mutas beat all wtf"

On April 09 2013 23:14 Decendos wrote:


i thougt so too but imagine drg adding 5 BLs and 10 infestors. P wouldnt be able to get free hits at the locusts and spines while he still wouldve been able to harrass. assuming you have 60 drones lategame, something like 15 SHs, 20 mutas, 5 viper is 100 supply which wouldve left supply for 5 BLs and 10 infestors. thats definetly enough to defend while keeping on the pressure with your mutas.

what i especially liked about this style is that you can do multipronged attacks and P has a hard time getting his airdeathball.

On April 09 2013 23:23 Insoleet wrote:


In this game, infestors could have been a good idea yeah.

But well, flying was lazy and didnt want to build 8-9 phoenixes (which had +2 in attack). Thoses 8-9 phoenixes with the range would have destroyed the 40 mutalisks, insanely cost-efficiently.