On April 10 2013 00:08 waylander_ wrote: hrm, wonder how much longer Zergs will continue to blindly a move into widow mines before realizing they have to micro. Roro's only loss to Bomber came from the same thing. Good micro has been an absolute requirement for Terran for the past 2 years, but at first people didn't even know how to split marines vs banes. Maybe Zerg is the same way atm.
It'll take time. It was months before Terrans understood that constantly spreading and pre-splitting their bio was mandatory even just for moving across the map because of the insta-loss potential even a single fungal had in TvZ. Zergs have been cruising around the map on one hotkey for a few years now, the habit will take time to break.
My list of 5 best players right now: Innovation Rain Life Yoda RoRo
Best foregner: Dont dare to say who I think but he is from my country )
Good list. I'd take the same except Flash in place of Yoda. The way that Yoda let over 2k gas float in at least 3 of his games today seems less than optimal -- especially in game 1 vs. DRG where he was very close to losing and probably could have made good use of a Raven.
Yoda went 4-0 today though and previously he has impressed as well. I would not put Flash in top 5 at the moment but of course respect your opinion. There are others too which could take the 5th spot.
Edit: Me stupid, corrected mistake.
You are clueless! Flash already beat Innovation and Rain in a BO3 format.
Man, there are like 30 pros who can all beat each other in a best of 3. This is a list of top 5. For me top 3 Innovation, Life and Rain are dead sure. Roro and Yoda are debatable. Clueless, LOL. At a matter of fact I don't think Flash played that stable recently.
I would say there are hundreds of Korean pros who can possibly beat each other in a BO3. Even some amateur players.
On April 09 2013 23:52 dynwar7 wrote: I still dont understand....some people played 3 matches, some others only two...
The easiest way to think of it is a double elimination bracket of 4 players. If u win ur first match ur in the winners finals. If u lose a match for the first time you get put into the losers bracket. Lose twice and you're eliminated. Win twice and you qualify.
I've been saying for a long time at how baffled I always am when people underestimate Yoda.
The dude is by FAR the fastest SC2 player on the planet. He has games with 260+ epm on sc2gears... more than players like DRG or Hyun, which is insane because Zerg has a 20-30 epm inflation over Terran.
On April 09 2013 23:52 dynwar7 wrote: I still dont understand....some people played 3 matches, some others only two...
The easiest way to think of it is a double elimination bracket of 4 players. If u win ur first match ur in the winners finals. If u lose a match for the first time you get put into the losers bracket. Lose twice and you're eliminated. Win twice and you qualify.
It also eliminates needless games like 2-0 YoDa vs 0-2 MC
My list of 5 best players right now: Innovation Rain Life Yoda RoRo
Best foregner: Dont dare to say who I think but he is from my country )
Good list. I'd take the same except Flash in place of Yoda. The way that Yoda let over 2k gas float in at least 3 of his games today seems less than optimal -- especially in game 1 vs. DRG where he was very close to losing and probably could have made good use of a Raven.
Yoda went 4-0 today though and previously he has impressed as well. I would not put Flash in top 5 at the moment but of course respect your opinion. There are others too which could take the 5th spot.
Edit: Me stupid, corrected mistake.
You are clueless! Flash already beat Innovation and Rain in a BO3 format.
Man, there are like 30 pros who can all beat each other in a best of 3. This is a list of top 5. For me top 3 Innovation, Life and Rain are dead sure. Roro and Yoda are debatable. Clueless, LOL. At a matter of fact I don't think Flash played that stable recently.
I would say there are hundreds of Korean pros who can possibly beat each other in a BO3. Even some amateur players.
Don't quite agree there are hundreds perhaps though.
In code S with 32 players, some seasons poeple have difficulties even getting over 55% in correct prediction on LB. Impossible to guess always. Artosis always wrong.
My list of 5 best players right now: Innovation Rain Life Yoda RoRo
Best foregner: Dont dare to say who I think but he is from my country )
Good list. I'd take the same except Flash in place of Yoda. The way that Yoda let over 2k gas float in at least 3 of his games today seems less than optimal -- especially in game 1 vs. DRG where he was very close to losing and probably could have made good use of a Raven.
Yoda went 4-0 today though and previously he has impressed as well. I would not put Flash in top 5 at the moment but of course respect your opinion. There are others too which could take the 5th spot.
Edit: Me stupid, corrected mistake.
You are clueless! Flash already beat Innovation and Rain in a BO3 format.
Man, there are like 30 pros who can all beat each other in a best of 3. This is a list of top 5. For me top 3 Innovation, Life and Rain are dead sure. Roro and Yoda are debatable. Clueless, LOL. At a matter of fact I don't think Flash played that stable recently.
Let me repeat it to you: Flash beat Innovation and Rain recently. So much for your best top 3. Also Roro beats life in ZvZ anytime. Soulkey beats Life, Jaedong beats Life.
My list of 5 best players right now: Innovation Rain Life Yoda RoRo
Best foregner: Dont dare to say who I think but he is from my country )
Good list. I'd take the same except Flash in place of Yoda. The way that Yoda let over 2k gas float in at least 3 of his games today seems less than optimal -- especially in game 1 vs. DRG where he was very close to losing and probably could have made good use of a Raven.
Yoda went 4-0 today though and previously he has impressed as well. I would not put Flash in top 5 at the moment but of course respect your opinion. There are others too which could take the 5th spot.
Edit: Me stupid, corrected mistake.
You are clueless! Flash already beat Innovation and Rain in a BO3 format.
Man, there are like 30 pros who can all beat each other in a best of 3. This is a list of top 5. For me top 3 Innovation, Life and Rain are dead sure. Roro and Yoda are debatable. Clueless, LOL. At a matter of fact I don't think Flash played that stable recently.
Let me repeat it to you: Flash beat Innovation and Rain recently. So much for your best top 3. Also Roro beats life in ZvZ anytime. Soulkey beats Life, Jaedong beats Life.
Let me guess your list for you then: Flash Roro Soulkey Innovation? Rain?
My list of 5 best players right now: Innovation Rain Life Yoda RoRo
Best foregner: Dont dare to say who I think but he is from my country )
Good list. I'd take the same except Flash in place of Yoda. The way that Yoda let over 2k gas float in at least 3 of his games today seems less than optimal -- especially in game 1 vs. DRG where he was very close to losing and probably could have made good use of a Raven.
Yoda went 4-0 today though and previously he has impressed as well. I would not put Flash in top 5 at the moment but of course respect your opinion. There are others too which could take the 5th spot.
Edit: Me stupid, corrected mistake.
You are clueless! Flash already beat Innovation and Rain in a BO3 format.
Man, there are like 30 pros who can all beat each other in a best of 3. This is a list of top 5. For me top 3 Innovation, Life and Rain are dead sure. Roro and Yoda are debatable. Clueless, LOL. At a matter of fact I don't think Flash played that stable recently.
I would say there are hundreds of Korean pros who can possibly beat each other in a BO3. Even some amateur players.
Don't quite agree there are hundreds perhaps though.
In code S with 32 players, some seasons poeple have difficulties even getting over 55% in correct prediction on LB. Impossible to guess always. Artosis always wrong.
Besides code S and A, there are plenty of players in Code B can possibly beat Life in a BO3. IMO, any pro players in a Korean teamhouse can possibly do that. Then plus some top amateur players, trainees, clearly over couple hundreds of players. ofc not talking about consistently do that.
My list of 5 best players right now: Innovation Rain Life Yoda RoRo
Best foregner: Dont dare to say who I think but he is from my country )
Good list. I'd take the same except Flash in place of Yoda. The way that Yoda let over 2k gas float in at least 3 of his games today seems less than optimal -- especially in game 1 vs. DRG where he was very close to losing and probably could have made good use of a Raven.
Yoda went 4-0 today though and previously he has impressed as well. I would not put Flash in top 5 at the moment but of course respect your opinion. There are others too which could take the 5th spot.
Edit: Me stupid, corrected mistake.
You are clueless! Flash already beat Innovation and Rain in a BO3 format.
Man, there are like 30 pros who can all beat each other in a best of 3. This is a list of top 5. For me top 3 Innovation, Life and Rain are dead sure. Roro and Yoda are debatable. Clueless, LOL. At a matter of fact I don't think Flash played that stable recently.
Let me repeat it to you: Flash beat Innovation and Rain recently. So much for your best top 3. Also Roro beats life in ZvZ anytime. Soulkey beats Life, Jaedong beats Life.
Let me guess your list for you then: Flash Roro Soulkey Innovation? Rain?
My list of 5 best players right now: Innovation Rain Life Yoda RoRo
Best foregner: Dont dare to say who I think but he is from my country )
Good list. I'd take the same except Flash in place of Yoda. The way that Yoda let over 2k gas float in at least 3 of his games today seems less than optimal -- especially in game 1 vs. DRG where he was very close to losing and probably could have made good use of a Raven.
Yoda went 4-0 today though and previously he has impressed as well. I would not put Flash in top 5 at the moment but of course respect your opinion. There are others too which could take the 5th spot.
Edit: Me stupid, corrected mistake.
You are clueless! Flash already beat Innovation and Rain in a BO3 format.
Man, there are like 30 pros who can all beat each other in a best of 3. This is a list of top 5. For me top 3 Innovation, Life and Rain are dead sure. Roro and Yoda are debatable. Clueless, LOL. At a matter of fact I don't think Flash played that stable recently.
I would say there are hundreds of Korean pros who can possibly beat each other in a BO3. Even some amateur players.
Don't quite agree there are hundreds perhaps though.
In code S with 32 players, some seasons poeple have difficulties even getting over 55% in correct prediction on LB. Impossible to guess always. Artosis always wrong.
Besides code S and A, there are plenty of players in Code B can possibly beat Life in a BO3. IMO, any pro players in a Korean teamhouse can possibly do that. Then plus some top amateur players, trainees, clearly over couple hundreds of players. ofc not talking about consistently do that.
I agree if you say _can beat_ on a _good day_. Because with the people you mentioned, even many foreginers can beat Koreans on a good day.
But the difference is that the 30 best guys takes far more sets from each others that it is actually quite likely that anyone can win.
Edit: And I forgot, you can beat Life in a best of 3 but NEVER in a best of 5 :D
On April 10 2013 00:08 waylander_ wrote: hrm, wonder how much longer Zergs will continue to blindly a move into widow mines before realizing they have to micro. Roro's only loss to Bomber came from the same thing. Good micro has been an absolute requirement for Terran for the past 2 years, but at first people didn't even know how to split marines vs banes. Maybe Zerg is the same way atm.
It'll take time. It was months before Terrans understood that constantly spreading and pre-splitting their bio was mandatory even just for moving across the map because of the insta-loss potential even a single fungal had in TvZ. Zergs have been cruising around the map on one hotkey for a few years now, the habit will take time to break.
understanding =/= being able to do it as well as required, as your example of Terran shows
My list of 5 best players right now: Innovation Rain Life Yoda RoRo
Best foregner: Dont dare to say who I think but he is from my country )
Good list. I'd take the same except Flash in place of Yoda. The way that Yoda let over 2k gas float in at least 3 of his games today seems less than optimal -- especially in game 1 vs. DRG where he was very close to losing and probably could have made good use of a Raven.
Yoda went 4-0 today though and previously he has impressed as well. I would not put Flash in top 5 at the moment but of course respect your opinion. There are others too which could take the 5th spot.
Edit: Me stupid, corrected mistake.
You are clueless! Flash already beat Innovation and Rain in a BO3 format.
Man, there are like 30 pros who can all beat each other in a best of 3. This is a list of top 5. For me top 3 Innovation, Life and Rain are dead sure. Roro and Yoda are debatable. Clueless, LOL. At a matter of fact I don't think Flash played that stable recently.
I would say there are hundreds of Korean pros who can possibly beat each other in a BO3. Even some amateur players.
BO3 casually on ladder? sure. BO3 televised live? In a big tournament? That number is probably less than 30.
On April 10 2013 00:08 waylander_ wrote: hrm, wonder how much longer Zergs will continue to blindly a move into widow mines before realizing they have to micro. Roro's only loss to Bomber came from the same thing. Good micro has been an absolute requirement for Terran for the past 2 years, but at first people didn't even know how to split marines vs banes. Maybe Zerg is the same way atm.
It'll take time. It was months before Terrans understood that constantly spreading and pre-splitting their bio was mandatory even just for moving across the map because of the insta-loss potential even a single fungal had in TvZ. Zergs have been cruising around the map on one hotkey for a few years now, the habit will take time to break.
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