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Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
March 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#3681
On March 16 2013 10:59 Havik_ wrote:
Ret has been destroying at Hots. He's the best Hots Zerg so far.


I agree that Ret is playing well right now, but have you seen Life?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
March 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#3682
On March 16 2013 10:59 Havik_ wrote:
Ret has been destroying at Hots. He's the best Hots Zerg so far.

Have to disagree with best HotS Zerg, but he is certainly the best foreign Zerg in HotS currently.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#3683
On March 16 2013 11:00 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 10:59 Havik_ wrote:
Ret has been destroying at Hots. He's the best Hots Zerg so far.

Nah, Life will show you how to play HotS Zerg tomorrow

Monster did a pretty good job of showing us in HSL
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dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
March 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#3684
On March 16 2013 10:58 monkybone wrote:
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On March 16 2013 10:57 dinosrwar wrote:
I don't really like free siege mode in TvT. It feels so ... off. Researching siege mode had trade offs that made TvT more interesting.


I agree. Blizzard made the change as to make mech openings in TvP easier. But I haven't seen a single terran mech vs protoss, so it's just irrelevant.


Yeah, I didn't understand the reason because it would've been better to just maybe make it do +dmg against shields if they wanted to buff tanks against toss -- even though the reason tanks don't work against toss in SC2 is because spider mines don't exist anymore. So now if I'm zerg and I'm playing terran, I don't have a timing window to attack before they get siege mode. Sigh.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#3685
On March 16 2013 10:59 Havik_ wrote:
Ret has been destroying at Hots. He's the best Hots Zerg so far.

You must have missed life vs flash.
pvpeep
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada228 Posts
March 16 2013 02:01 GMT
#3686
Ret is doing well cause he's the anti-patchzerg
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
March 16 2013 02:01 GMT
#3687
That Husky Incontrol duo is just so nice. Great casting!
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
March 16 2013 02:01 GMT
#3688
On March 16 2013 10:58 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 10:57 dinosrwar wrote:
I don't really like free siege mode in TvT. It feels so ... off. Researching siege mode had trade offs that made TvT more interesting.


I agree. Blizzard made the change as to make mech openings in TvP easier. But I haven't seen a single terran mech vs protoss, so it's just irrelevant.

maybe lets give it some time.
also jjaki so strong, i didnt know
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 16 2013 02:01 GMT
#3689
On March 16 2013 10:59 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 10:58 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On March 16 2013 10:57 DMXD wrote:
On March 16 2013 10:56 StarscreamG1 wrote:
That Ret BW backgroung on ZvZ...

suppy use to play bw zerg too but not as a pro =D


He beat iNcontroL at BW when he was 12 and iNcontroL was top 5 North America.

His friends were streamcheating, I believe. And iNcontroL was playing Protoss. Cannon rushing.

A promise of things to come, surely.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 02:03:17
March 16 2013 02:01 GMT
#3690
On March 16 2013 11:00 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 10:59 Havik_ wrote:
Ret has been destroying at Hots. He's the best Hots Zerg so far.

Nah, Life will show you how to play HotS Zerg tomorrow


Monster looked really solid in Marine's tournament as well. Ragnarok looked great in GSTL, and Life in vs Flash showmatch. Think Ret still has a long way to the top!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 16 2013 02:01 GMT
#3691
On March 16 2013 10:58 Roman666 wrote:
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On March 16 2013 10:56 FakeDeath wrote:
The state of ZvZ is really bad now.

Seriously,it's all just about Muta vs Muta.
And who got more.


Its even worse than in BW. There you had scourges to make things more interesting.


Not really true, there are Banelings that can clean the lings that are used to absorb muta shots. Muta vs Muta wars are currently decided below them.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3692
On March 16 2013 11:01 pvpeep wrote:
Ret is doing well cause he's the anti-patchzerg

Ha, well said
o choro é livre
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3693
On March 16 2013 11:00 Noocta wrote:
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On March 16 2013 11:00 Depetrify wrote:
Why don't zergs do that queen/roach (hydra?) push with Nydus that use to be kinda popular vs muta?


They just forgot about it mostly.

This is what I think also. It is very plausible to do so, however its rather the mental state of the players about the meta game.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3694
On March 16 2013 11:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 11:00 Whatson wrote:
On March 16 2013 10:59 Havik_ wrote:
Ret has been destroying at Hots. He's the best Hots Zerg so far.

Nah, Life will show you how to play HotS Zerg tomorrow

Monster did a pretty good job of showing us in HSL

Aw, now i wish Engine was doing analysis after the games, imagine how awesome that would be.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 02:02:41
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3695
On March 16 2013 11:01 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 11:00 Whatson wrote:
On March 16 2013 10:59 Havik_ wrote:
Ret has been destroying at Hots. He's the best Hots Zerg so far.

Nah, Life will show you how to play HotS Zerg tomorrow


Monster looked really solid in Marine's tournament as well. Revival looked great in GSTL, and Life in vs Flash showmatch. Think Ret still has a long way to the top!

Revival? Did you mean Ragnarok? because I agree Ragnarok looked pretty good too
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3696
On March 16 2013 11:01 pvpeep wrote:
Ret is doing well cause he's the anti-patchzerg

When all the patchzergs were doing well, Ret kinda fell off. Now that HotS is out, he'll probably get back to his beastly self
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3697
Ret thrives on being considered underpowered, and crumbles under pressure when considered overpowered.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3698
On March 16 2013 11:01 75 wrote:
That Husky Incontrol duo is just so nice. Great casting!

Casting ZvZ nonetheless. Not a matchup either of them even plays, much less at a high level.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3699
On March 16 2013 10:59 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
More than 50k on the red stream. Not bad.

SC2 viewers surprisingly high, LoL viewers lower than usual. HotS clearly doing work.

Hopefully the second Jjakji vs MK game will be as good as the first one. It's at least a more interesting mirror than ZvZ... In BW at least you have very smooth micro and scourge to spice it up, in SC2 it just feels like pure numbers + upgrades. I wonder if anyone will ever invent anything or if we'll just need to wait for a patch.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#3700
On March 16 2013 11:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 11:01 DJHelium wrote:
On March 16 2013 11:00 Whatson wrote:
On March 16 2013 10:59 Havik_ wrote:
Ret has been destroying at Hots. He's the best Hots Zerg so far.

Nah, Life will show you how to play HotS Zerg tomorrow


Monster looked really solid in Marine's tournament as well. Revival looked great in GSTL, and Life in vs Flash showmatch. Think Ret still has a long way to the top!

Revival? Did you mean Ragnarok? because I agree Ragnarok looked pretty good too


Yeah.
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