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On March 06 2013 08:10 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:09 xongnox wrote:
so we can definitively confirm hydra rape bio even with a very hight medivac count :D ( there were also one Stephano vs MKP some time ago where stephano wins with roach hydra vs mass rines-medivacs )
Btw casters doesn't seems aware of it. "no way Vibe can win vs this terrifying terran army" into 1a into Vibe rape Illu.... :D
And viper just seems OP vs T :D
I'd rather have something that takes skill to use be overpowered (see widowmines (although not OP), Vipers and Carriers) rather than infestors which in WoL were just click here to kill everything. <333
Yeah infestors was too easy to use, boring to watch (anti-micro) and, even worse, super good vs everything, literally everything, every fucking unit, from marines to BC, etc.
But eh the second problematic point of infestors was killing units for free... and then they make viper and swarm host witch, whereas more complicated to use and more specific, kills units for free :/
Btw infestors stays a very good unit in HoTs
So, we will see with time, but for now i'am not really enthusiast about theses news units....
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Illusion and Vibe have played the most entertaining TvZ between foreign players in a long time. Bravo gentlemen
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Looks like Illusion is still good as ever.
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I can't get over the fact of how huge the casters' mouse pads are! Look at them!
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Glad to see high level NA players once in a while, btw.
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On March 06 2013 08:24 Herect wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:22 paradoxOO9 wrote:
Swarm Hosts being used well is quickly becoming one of my favourite things. Check out Sleep vs First (Azubu vs LGIM on GSTL Preseason) and some Ret's ZvPs of IEM. Just awesome.
I haven't seen the Ret games yet, how do I go about finding the VOD's?
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On March 06 2013 08:30 xongnox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:10 Qikz wrote:On March 06 2013 08:09 xongnox wrote:
so we can definitively confirm hydra rape bio even with a very hight medivac count :D ( there were also one Stephano vs MKP some time ago where stephano wins with roach hydra vs mass rines-medivacs )
Btw casters doesn't seems aware of it. "no way Vibe can win vs this terrifying terran army" into 1a into Vibe rape Illu.... :D
And viper just seems OP vs T :D
I'd rather have something that takes skill to use be overpowered (see widowmines (although not OP), Vipers and Carriers) rather than infestors which in WoL were just click here to kill everything. <333 Yeah infestors was too easy to use, boring to watch (anti-micro) and, even worse, super good vs everything, literally everything, every fucking unit, from marines to BC, etc. But eh the second problematic point of infestors was killing units for free... and then they make viper and swarm host witch, whereas more complicated to use and more specific, kills units for free :/ Btw infestors stays a very good unit in HoTs So, we will see with time, but for now i'am not really enthusiast about theses news units....
Infestors got a damage reduction and a casting nerf. They're not that great really. You're not going to see infestor ling builds because infestors don't do any damage.
Swarm hosts only work when you have a momentum advantage because they suck in small numbers, Illusion gifted his army and the worst possible time so Vibe was able to build up swarm hosts and pressure him with a supply lead. It has nothing to do with free units.
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On March 06 2013 08:34 paradoxOO9 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:24 Herect wrote:On March 06 2013 08:22 paradoxOO9 wrote:
Swarm Hosts being used well is quickly becoming one of my favourite things. Check out Sleep vs First (Azubu vs LGIM on GSTL Preseason) and some Ret's ZvPs of IEM. Just awesome. I haven't seen the Ret games yet, how do I go about finding the VOD's?
You can watch ret dismantling mc with sh's there -> http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/374141077
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On March 06 2013 08:36 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:34 paradoxOO9 wrote:On March 06 2013 08:24 Herect wrote:On March 06 2013 08:22 paradoxOO9 wrote:
Swarm Hosts being used well is quickly becoming one of my favourite things. Check out Sleep vs First (Azubu vs LGIM on GSTL Preseason) and some Ret's ZvPs of IEM. Just awesome. I haven't seen the Ret games yet, how do I go about finding the VOD's? You can watch ret dismantling mc with sh's there -> http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/374141077
Yeah reminded me of my swarmhost games. So glad other zergs are using that composition now and not going roach/hydra. Swarmhosts so so so good in zvp if the zerg player knows how to use them :D
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How is Illusion rated compared to Demuslim? Who would be the best NA Terran? Or do we consider Demuslim as a EU Terran? :D
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On March 06 2013 08:36 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:34 paradoxOO9 wrote:On March 06 2013 08:24 Herect wrote:On March 06 2013 08:22 paradoxOO9 wrote:
Swarm Hosts being used well is quickly becoming one of my favourite things. Check out Sleep vs First (Azubu vs LGIM on GSTL Preseason) and some Ret's ZvPs of IEM. Just awesome. I haven't seen the Ret games yet, how do I go about finding the VOD's? You can watch ret dismantling mc with sh's there -> http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/374141077
It's funny. Ret went 2-0 against MC, but only 2-1 against Gretorp, so clearly Gretorp's off-race Protoss > MC :p
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On March 06 2013 08:38 ZenithM wrote:
How is Illusion rated compared to Demuslim? Who would be the best NA Terran? Or do we consider Demuslim as a EU Terran? :D
I'd say Demuslim is an EU terran, since he played in WCS UK. Hard to say who is better, since both have beaten pretty solid opponents, but neither has won a major tournament. For me at least, I think they are roughly equal.
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On March 06 2013 08:38 ZenithM wrote:
How is Illusion rated compared to Demuslim? Who would be the best NA Terran? Or do we consider Demuslim as a EU Terran? :D
Why would demuslim be an NA terran? He's English! :p
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On March 06 2013 08:38 ZenithM wrote:
How is Illusion rated compared to Demuslim? Who would be the best NA Terran? Or do we consider Demuslim as a EU Terran? :D
I feel Illusion is the better player, still quite underrrated.
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On March 06 2013 08:39 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:38 ZenithM wrote:
How is Illusion rated compared to Demuslim? Who would be the best NA Terran? Or do we consider Demuslim as a EU Terran? :D Why would demuslim be an NA terran? He's English! :p
Rule of violet, he's one of them now.
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Axslav is hilarious!
"HE needs 4 spines on the top of his ramp NOW! Whats he doing? Infestation pit? +1 ATTTACK!?!?! NOO"
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On March 06 2013 08:40 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 08:39 Qikz wrote:On March 06 2013 08:38 ZenithM wrote:
How is Illusion rated compared to Demuslim? Who would be the best NA Terran? Or do we consider Demuslim as a EU Terran? :D Why would demuslim be an NA terran? He's English! :p Rule of violet, he's one of them now.
Can't believe Team USA recruited violet and polt D:
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I feel like im watching a different game than the casters...
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lmao illusion is so bad.
bitbybitfail
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Nice series!
I just want some show, man :D
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