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On January 30 2013 20:43 SlixSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:42 ramon wrote:On January 30 2013 20:41 SlixSC wrote:On January 30 2013 20:38 ramon wrote:On January 30 2013 20:36 Asha` wrote:On January 30 2013 20:35 mrtomjones wrote:On January 30 2013 20:33 ramon wrote:
must be hard to do that micro compared to what every protoss does every game with immortals Except he was DODGING banshee shots dude. I am making the assumption that this is sarcasm by you. Doing two units and juggling like them isn't easy in the least. It's pretty easy when that's the only thing you are doing on the map bar macro tbh. yeah it is actually relatively easy, he only had these 2 units and the medivac (with which he was dancing some) banshee shots also fly in slowly compared to roaches, which are the usual enemy of immortals nonsense, banshees have higher attack speed than roaches which doesn't mean their attacks fly faster, right? immortals have low attack speed but their damage point is instant and their back swing very long (in dota terms) which is irrelevant, what matters is the interval between the shots not how fast the shots fly.
the interval the attack flys is the time you have to dodge the shot
i'm seriously not trolling
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On January 30 2013 20:43 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 30 2013 20:23 FineAndDandy wrote:On January 30 2013 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 30 2013 20:11 FineAndDandy wrote:On January 30 2013 20:09 NovemberstOrm wrote:On January 30 2013 20:07 Radioman wrote:
God haven't watch GSL in a while.
Been watching Pro league and people keep bashing those casters over there.
Artosis and Tasteless still biased as fuck when it comes to casting yet everyone loves them? I dont know.... who cares about bias? everyone's biased whether you are a player,caster, or team manager. ofc people care, fans of hated player by casters will be driven away. I can guarantee you that doesn't happen as much as they just whine about it in the LR thread. When the casters are not believing or being biased against a player I'm cheering for it just makes me cheer louder when they win. That's for fans who are already in the scene, and have an account on TL, ofc they won't leave just by that. But for those super casual fans, such as someone's girlfriend, they will get annoyed and go watch LoL or other things for a while. Says you. I havent had that experience with anyone I've met in the esports scene or any of my friends who watch Starcraft with me casually. What's known as "color" commentary in Sports is good for the entertainment value even if it comes off as biased. This is why Charles Barkley gets such high television ratings, this is why Jeff Van Gundy is one of the main commentators for ESPN during basketball games. People prefer exciting commentary that creates or amplifies drama and excitement over bland and politically correct commentary. Sports has taught us this over the years at least in the American market. The only detriment is when the color commentary has no balanced analysis to go with it, and in the case of Tastetosis they have some of the best analytical commentary in the business that more than balances out their color commentary. That's why they're the best. They create drama which creates excitement for the viewer but their analysis is on point as well and that careful balance is hard as hell for a casting duo to have. I don't agree, this is true if the bias is close to yours, else really biased casters will piss me off. For instance I'm not japanese but I live in Japan and japanese sports TV programs are just really annoying in that regard. Well in Japan it's not even bias, it's more that they almost don't show other countries at all... So it's fine if the bias is on your side or if it's not too big and you know why there is a small bias like this (country related to the program, etc...). If the bias is not your opinion and it gets way too obvious, then that's not cool. Now I love Tastosis, because they're not too much biased and because our opinions don't seem too different anyway.
I mean there's definitely extremes you can go to but I have not experienced any of those yet and like you said Tastetosis isn't there.
But that is not to say that bias itself should be completely removed from all sports commentary as it does serve a purpose. Can it get out of hand and become destructive? Yes. But that's not the case with tastetosis and it isn't the case with virtually any sport I've ever watched.
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Been away from GSL for a couple of months, hearing about MKPs current form makes me want to buy a pass again !
Now, MVP needs to get out.
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On January 30 2013 20:43 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:42 dreamseller wrote:On January 30 2013 20:33 ramon wrote:
must be hard to do that micro compared to what every protoss does every game with immortals also, must be hard to do that micro compared to what every zerg does every game with muta magic box vs thor Lol, muta magic boxing hard? I hope you're being sarcastic now.
also, must be hard to do that micro compared to what every zebra main player has to do against every penguin every game ever.
golly we can do this for all of the things.
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Head is saying Mvp to lose this, heart says never bet against Mvp.
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blocked in your country? WTF is this shit -__-
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Gogo Mvp!!
Show us some awesome mech TvZ!
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On January 30 2013 20:45 Yello wrote:
Fuck you guys talking about the difficulties of micro. We just saw a great, entertaining game and you are talking it down...
Stop it and get hyped for Mvp against Roro!!!
Sorry to break it too you that some things are not that hard but looks great, now go and switch pants. 
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On January 30 2013 20:45 Waxangel wrote:
Solid six Code S streak for MKP where he's reached the Ro16!
Is that a record?
I think it's because you guys keep doubting him in the predictions. Keep doing it, he obviously feeds off of it like MC does.
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On January 30 2013 20:46 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:45 Waxangel wrote:
Solid six Code S streak for MKP where he's reached the Ro16!
Is that a record? I think it's because you guys keep doubting him in the predictions. Keep doing it, he obviously feeds off of it like MC does.
oh nope, tied with Mvp for six
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On January 30 2013 20:46 ramon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:43 SlixSC wrote:On January 30 2013 20:42 ramon wrote:On January 30 2013 20:41 SlixSC wrote:On January 30 2013 20:38 ramon wrote:On January 30 2013 20:36 Asha` wrote:On January 30 2013 20:35 mrtomjones wrote:On January 30 2013 20:33 ramon wrote:
must be hard to do that micro compared to what every protoss does every game with immortals Except he was DODGING banshee shots dude. I am making the assumption that this is sarcasm by you. Doing two units and juggling like them isn't easy in the least. It's pretty easy when that's the only thing you are doing on the map bar macro tbh. yeah it is actually relatively easy, he only had these 2 units and the medivac (with which he was dancing some) banshee shots also fly in slowly compared to roaches, which are the usual enemy of immortals nonsense, banshees have higher attack speed than roaches which doesn't mean their attacks fly faster, right? immortals have low attack speed but their damage point is instant and their back swing very long (in dota terms) which is irrelevant, what matters is the interval between the shots not how fast the shots fly. the interval the attack flys is the time you have to dodge the shot i'm seriously not trolling
it's a basic algorithm, you don't lift the unit when the roach has already shot as that would be too late, you lift it shortly before it completes it's attack animation and the interval for that is always the same, from attack to attack it's 2 seconds, for banshees it's 1.25 or something like that, so the interval is almost 2x shorter.
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On January 30 2013 20:45 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:45 neutralrobot wrote:On January 30 2013 20:38 Ghanburighan wrote:On January 30 2013 20:36 Asha` wrote:On January 30 2013 20:35 mrtomjones wrote:On January 30 2013 20:33 ramon wrote:
must be hard to do that micro compared to what every protoss does every game with immortals Except he was DODGING banshee shots dude. I am making the assumption that this is sarcasm by you. Doing two units and juggling like them isn't easy in the least. It's pretty easy when that's the only thing you are doing on the map bar macro tbh. Lol at the random haters. That was the first time we've seen anyone dodge banshee shots with medivac marauder micro. Have some respect. And no, no protoss has countered a banshee defence with immortal micro like that. Wait, didn't SlayerS_BoxeR do that a while back? I missed this game, sadly... Pretty sure he did
Where's the vod?
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On January 30 2013 20:47 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:46 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 30 2013 20:45 Waxangel wrote:
Solid six Code S streak for MKP where he's reached the Ro16!
Is that a record? I think it's because you guys keep doubting him in the predictions. Keep doing it, he obviously feeds off of it like MC does. oh nope, tied with Mvp for six
What was Mvp's streak?
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Tide goes in, tide comes out. You can't explain that!!1
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On January 30 2013 20:48 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:47 Waxangel wrote:On January 30 2013 20:46 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 30 2013 20:45 Waxangel wrote:
Solid six Code S streak for MKP where he's reached the Ro16!
Is that a record? I think it's because you guys keep doubting him in the predictions. Keep doing it, he obviously feeds off of it like MC does. oh nope, tied with Mvp for six What was Mvp's streak?
uhhh tied, so six :O?
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On January 30 2013 20:49 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:48 Asha` wrote:On January 30 2013 20:47 Waxangel wrote:On January 30 2013 20:46 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 30 2013 20:45 Waxangel wrote:
Solid six Code S streak for MKP where he's reached the Ro16!
Is that a record? I think it's because you guys keep doubting him in the predictions. Keep doing it, he obviously feeds off of it like MC does. oh nope, tied with Mvp for six What was Mvp's streak? uhhh tied, so six :O?
I mean starting at what season and finishing at what season?
e: oops I misread, thought we were talking Ro8 and not 16 for a mo
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This is Neo Planet S right?
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On January 30 2013 20:49 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:48 Asha` wrote:On January 30 2013 20:47 Waxangel wrote:On January 30 2013 20:46 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 30 2013 20:45 Waxangel wrote:
Solid six Code S streak for MKP where he's reached the Ro16!
Is that a record? I think it's because you guys keep doubting him in the predictions. Keep doing it, he obviously feeds off of it like MC does. oh nope, tied with Mvp for six What was Mvp's streak? uhhh tied, so six :O?
I'm assuming that was his 2011 streak. Far as I know MVP's been doing a lot of up and down in 2012 where he either drops out early or goes all the way to the late rounds.
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On January 30 2013 20:47 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:46 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 30 2013 20:45 Waxangel wrote:
Solid six Code S streak for MKP where he's reached the Ro16!
Is that a record? I think it's because you guys keep doubting him in the predictions. Keep doing it, he obviously feeds off of it like MC does. oh nope, tied with Mvp for six
Mvp has 7
1. GSL August 2011: 1st
2. GSL October 2011: 2nd
3. GSL November 2011: Ro4
4: GSL 1 2012: Ro16
5. GSL 2 2012: 1st
6. GSL 3 2012: Ro16
7. GSL 4 2012: 2nd
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On January 30 2013 20:48 SlixSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 20:46 ramon wrote:On January 30 2013 20:43 SlixSC wrote:On January 30 2013 20:42 ramon wrote:On January 30 2013 20:41 SlixSC wrote:On January 30 2013 20:38 ramon wrote:On January 30 2013 20:36 Asha` wrote:On January 30 2013 20:35 mrtomjones wrote:On January 30 2013 20:33 ramon wrote:
must be hard to do that micro compared to what every protoss does every game with immortals Except he was DODGING banshee shots dude. I am making the assumption that this is sarcasm by you. Doing two units and juggling like them isn't easy in the least. It's pretty easy when that's the only thing you are doing on the map bar macro tbh. yeah it is actually relatively easy, he only had these 2 units and the medivac (with which he was dancing some) banshee shots also fly in slowly compared to roaches, which are the usual enemy of immortals nonsense, banshees have higher attack speed than roaches which doesn't mean their attacks fly faster, right? immortals have low attack speed but their damage point is instant and their back swing very long (in dota terms) which is irrelevant, what matters is the interval between the shots not how fast the shots fly. the interval the attack flys is the time you have to dodge the shot i'm seriously not trolling it's a basic algorithm, you don't lift the unit when the roach has already shot as that would be too late, you lift it shortly before it completes it's attack animation and the interval for that is always the same, from attack to attack it's 2 seconds, for banshees it's 1.25 or something like that, so the interval is almost 2x shorter.
Plus marauders are smaller and there was no fucking room for a mistake since the marauders were low hp.
It's not insanely hard as quite a lot of koreans terrans could do it, but doing it perfectly for such a long time and with two marauders, is quite a feat.
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