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+ Show Spoiler +Check the Stephano line/match placement. (Z)Ryul2 (Savage) <Neo Caldeum> (Z)Jaedong (P)Argo <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)Jaedong (P)Argo <Antiga Shipyard>
(P)Argo <Ohana> (Z)Stephano< Neo Bifrost> <Neo Arkanoid> <Neo Planet S Stephano is in the wrong position. Please bump him up one line. 
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Instead of immo-sentray all-in just do immo-sentray for a midgame army comp!
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Stephano looked like an average Zerg player. No defense against the phoenix harass, a low drone count, no good surrounds, bad unit composition. Hell, he was lucky Argo made no colossi, and he still lost. Sad.
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Wait what happened game 3? I just got up and OP says the hoon defeated his greatest nemesis, thin air.
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I thought that enough hydras with roach support would beat the immortal/sentry, but those forcefields just completely prevented any kind of flank.
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On January 21 2013 16:24 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:23 fuzzylogic44 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:22 bankobauss wrote:
christ stephano. DONT GO HYDRAS VS TOSS OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG Actually hydras are pretty good vs protoss without Colossus or storm Not when the protoss has a comparably sized army. Roach hydra doesn't work with that many sentrys and immortals on the map.
My thoughts exactly. Especially if the FFs are good and the toss don't throw units. If Jaehoon positionning and FFs were not as good as they were he would have died to these hydras. Stephano lost because he underestimated his opponent.
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On January 21 2013 16:28 Fusilero wrote:
Wait what happened game 3? I just got up and OP says the hoon defeated his greatest nemesis, thin air.
something something can't recall
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I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez
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On January 21 2013 16:26 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:24 BlazeFury01 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:22 Belha wrote:Why hidras  Just don't make that unit for competitive ZvP u.u Stephano knows more than you do so he had a reason for going Hydralisk. You don't have to make excuses just because he didn't win. Stephano is known as one of the best ZvPers for a reason. Jaehoon just had his number and now that Stephano is in pro league his styles being analyzed by the Kespa pros who will break him down once they understand his style. No one broke down his style. Stephano had the game won at the beginning but overcommitted to roach hydra at the 3rd. And then he was fucked.
If Stephano had the game "won" from the beginning then he would have won with his signature roach bust which failed. Argo broke him down and played super patiently to get out the composition worthy of dealing with Stephanos roach mass.
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On January 21 2013 16:27 Flamelta wrote:
Ok I know hydras suck but I thought it was actually sorta smart cuz toss didn't have colossus... guess not =(
Haha, that's the deadly trick!
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On January 21 2013 16:27 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:26 opterown wrote:On January 21 2013 16:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:22 opterown wrote:On January 21 2013 16:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
CreatorPrime taught Jaehoon well always gotta rep that creator right as one of two consistent posters in the fan club and the other one retiring from full time sc2 viewership I'm just trying to do my job sigh wish more people would post in his fanclub haha i probably own like 50% of the posts in it lol hey I post there
good man :D
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On January 21 2013 16:28 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:28 Fusilero wrote:
Wait what happened game 3? I just got up and OP says the hoon defeated his greatest nemesis, thin air. something something can't recall
Clapclapclapclapclapclapclap.
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On January 21 2013 16:28 Empirimancer wrote:
Stephano looked like an average Zerg player. No defense against the phoenix harass, a low drone count, no good surrounds, bad unit composition. Hell, he was lucky Argo made no colossi, and he still lost. Sad.
His drone count was higher than Argo's the whole game the second the pheonix hit the field. Don't listen to the casters, they actually don't know what they're talking about. His unit positioning in that game was still good. He lost because Forcefield>Roach Hydra. He should've just teched to infestor.
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No doubt in my mind that Stephano got cocky and thought he could end the game. He got cocky, over committed, lost way too much and the game was over. He lost the game all on his own after having it essentially in the bag.
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Anybody else think the right caster looks like JYP?
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On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote:
I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez
He stubbornly refused to make infestors that game. He probably still would have won, but Argo made all the right FF's and controlled every engagement.
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On January 21 2013 16:29 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:28 Empirimancer wrote:
Stephano looked like an average Zerg player. No defense against the phoenix harass, a low drone count, no good surrounds, bad unit composition. Hell, he was lucky Argo made no colossi, and he still lost. Sad.
His drone count was higher than Argo's the whole game the second the pheonix hit the field. Don't listen to the casters, they actually don't know what they're talking about. His unit positioning in that game was still good. He lost because Forcefield>Roach Hydra. He should've just teched to infestor.
Can anyone confirm he had no hydralisk range? Because if he didn't have it that's why he lost, you can't deal with forcefields effectively with equal range units, you need to abuse the 6 range vs 5 to keep dealing dps while your army is being ff'd.
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it's more like stephano expected to win by having way more units and able to continuous deny toss third and trade with him efficiently with the roach hydra composition.
toss won't have enough resource to go double robo colossus production
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On January 21 2013 16:27 NoGasfOu wrote:
No name Kespa player outclassed Stephano in PvZ.
You were not watching PL these days...
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EPT
