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Vindicate
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
January 21 2013 07:25 GMT
#461
I'm mildly concerned that the thread has a lot of "if protoss no sentry, gg. If zerg no infestor, gg". I would love to play HotS and see what new developments are in store.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 07:27:39
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#462
On January 21 2013 16:25 Zeon0 wrote:
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On January 21 2013 16:24 Irre wrote:
some of these less famous kespa players are really impressive.. reality yesterday, argo today.. damn

The only impressing thing about that was the terrible play from Stephano!


It's only terrible when he loses right? LOL

If he Roach bust had of worked I bet you would say "GREAT PLAY BY STEPHANO"! Give Argo credit for his win instead of saying "Stephano played badly" because he didn't. Argo was just better at preventing Stephano from flanking and developing the right unit composition.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#463
I don't get why stephano didn't go for nat/main when the p forcefielded himself at his third.. the usual common tactic?!
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#464
Muta would be good choice for Stephano
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#465
On January 21 2013 16:23 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
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On January 21 2013 16:22 bankobauss wrote:
christ stephano. DONT GO HYDRAS VS TOSS OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG


Actually hydras are pretty good vs protoss without Colossus or storm

That last game begs to differ ;p forcefields can still massacre a hydra army.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#466
On January 21 2013 16:24 Irre wrote:
some of these less famous kespa players are really impressive.. reality yesterday, argo today.. damn
Both have already become pretty famous in SC2 actually. Reality with some massive runs and wins vs major GSL players, and Jaehoon(Argo) was the second ace of his team after Baby, both of them carrying the team in the previous round.
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GodZo
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy224 Posts
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#467
Do u want to teach Stephano to play? U so retard...
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Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#468
On January 21 2013 16:24 BlazeFury01 wrote:
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On January 21 2013 16:22 Belha wrote:
Why hidras

Just don't make that unit for competitive ZvP u.u


Stephano knows more than you do so he had a reason for going Hydralisk. You don't have to make excuses just because he didn't win. Stephano is known as one of the best ZvPers for a reason. Jaehoon just had his number and now that Stephano is in pro league his styles being analyzed by the Kespa pros who will break him down once they understand his style.

No one broke down his style. Stephano had the game won at the beginning but overcommitted to roach hydra at the 3rd. And then he was fucked.
antihobo
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada121 Posts
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#469
I think cuz Protoss didn't have upgrades on the pressure, Stephano thought he could deny the 3rd repeatedly with roach-hydra and superior upgrades, force Protoss all-in, and force a favourable engagement. Protoss abused forcefields extremely well, barely wasting any and boom. GG.
takin yer ladder points
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 21 2013 07:26 GMT
#470
On January 21 2013 16:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On January 21 2013 16:22 opterown wrote:
On January 21 2013 16:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
CreatorPrime taught Jaehoon well

always gotta rep that creator right

as one of two consistent posters in the fan club and the other one retiring from full time sc2 viewership I'm just trying to do my job

sigh wish more people would post in his fanclub haha i probably own like 50% of the posts in it lol
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#471
On January 21 2013 16:24 BisuDagger wrote:
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On January 21 2013 16:04 Dosey wrote:
On January 21 2013 16:03 BisuDagger wrote:
The only crappy thing about this format is we see the same players every time. EgTl has so many players I'd rather watch.

Are you implying that you prefer watching EG-TL lose?

Eating your words now? Who would have guessed Stephano tried to win with mass roaches again. His play is so boring. Now leenock and drg, those are fun zergs.

Why would I be eating my words? You said EG-TL plays boring players in this format. They have to play their top tier players because every match they play is so close. They can't risk sending out a ThorzaiN or Zenio when it's constantly 4-3 3-4
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#472
On January 21 2013 16:26 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 16:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 21 2013 16:22 opterown wrote:
On January 21 2013 16:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
CreatorPrime taught Jaehoon well

always gotta rep that creator right

as one of two consistent posters in the fan club and the other one retiring from full time sc2 viewership I'm just trying to do my job

sigh wish more people would post in his fanclub haha i probably own like 50% of the posts in it lol


hey I post there
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#473
On January 21 2013 16:24 Irre wrote:
some of these less famous kespa players are really impressive.. reality yesterday, argo today.. damn


failhoon is super famous

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109931
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#474
It seems like to me Stephano got pigeonholed into expecting an all-in that entire game. He then figured (after over committing to roaches and hydras) he could just break Jaehoon's position and take out his army that spread out to defend the third. I have seen him do it on this same map several times. Except this game the timings were messed up and Jaehoon had excellent forcefields and did not grow attached to his third. The phoenix killed off a large number of drones while Stephano was moving across to disrupt Jaehoon's third.

Overall, it was great patience from Jaehoon and lack of it from Stephano that decided that game, imo.
Never make a hydralisk.
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#475
That's a good read on Argo's part into Stephano's style I feel. Totally abusing Stephano's tendency to overmake units when he's not sure about what his opponent is doing. Numerous small pushes but never committing, very similar to how Oz abused Steph during MLG arena.
Zealgoon
Profile Joined January 2013
China188 Posts
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#476
Apparently trading Jaehoon for Baby was not a good idea. Oh well, still glad to see Jaehoon winning!
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#477
No name Kespa player outclassed Stephano in PvZ.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 07:27:46
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#478
On January 21 2013 16:25 Vindicate wrote:
I'm mildly concerned that the thread has a lot of "if protoss no sentry, gg. If zerg no infestor, gg". I would love to play HotS and see what new developments are in store.


Oh zvp is a lot different in hots that's for sure lol. It's now toss being defensive and trying to get mass voidray/colossi(or templar) and then if it gets to a certain point in the game they win and zergs are trying to kill them before that point (or keep voidray + colossi count way down).

It's more action packed in hots at least I feel, still a dumb match up but not as bad as wol.

On January 21 2013 16:27 NoGasfOu wrote:
No name Kespa player outclassed Stephano in PvZ.


He's not a no name...
When I think of something else, something will go here
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#479
I don't think I even saw him get grooved spines. That's like not getting singularity charge, wtf. He was asking to get smashed by that army.
Flamelta
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada18 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 07:27:52
January 21 2013 07:27 GMT
#480
Ok I know hydras suck but I thought it was actually sorta smart cuz toss didn't have colossus... guess not =(
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