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On January 21 2013 16:33 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:30 dsousa wrote:On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote:
I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez He stubbornly refused to make infestors that game. He probably still would have won, but Argo made all the right FF's and controlled every engagement. Again, it's not that he refused, it's that he COULDN'T after losing so badly at Jaehoons third. The game was pretty much lost there unless Jaehoon went into Failhoon mode and forgot to press FFFFFF.
wrong. before stephano "lost badly at jaehoons third" he was massively ahead in supply/economy after defending the 2base attack. if instead of suiciding into jaehoons third, stephano just zipped to hive ASAP at the moment he repelled the attack and just conhtrolled the center, infestors would be out to stop any future attacks in time, then broodlords follow
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On January 21 2013 16:32 Devolved wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:26 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:24 BlazeFury01 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:22 Belha wrote:Why hidras  Just don't make that unit for competitive ZvP u.u Stephano knows more than you do so he had a reason for going Hydralisk. You don't have to make excuses just because he didn't win. Stephano is known as one of the best ZvPers for a reason. Jaehoon just had his number and now that Stephano is in pro league his styles being analyzed by the Kespa pros who will break him down once they understand his style. No one broke down his style. Stephano had the game won at the beginning but overcommitted to roach hydra at the 3rd. And then he was fucked. He didn't have it won. All he had was the first large attack repelled. Argo was smart after that. He pulled back and went into defensive mode without being greedy or taking his 3rd too early. It was really nice play by Argo and it was obvious he had studied Stephano's past games.
The question is : stephano trapped all the army of argo in a corner. Why didnt he destroyed it ? It wouldnt have been the same game without all the sentries and immortals saved from the 2 base all in...
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On January 21 2013 16:33 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:30 dsousa wrote:On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote:
I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez He stubbornly refused to make infestors that game. He probably still would have won, but Argo made all the right FF's and controlled every engagement. Again, it's not that he refused, it's that he COULDN'T after losing so badly at Jaehoons third. The game was pretty much lost there unless Jaehoon went into Failhoon mode and forgot to press FFFFFF.
If he had pre-built the infestation pit instead of the spire (he made the spire I think 2 mins after the first all in) maybe he would have gotten infestors. But he expected colossi and it never came.
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the only thing that drove me mad about set 3 was the lack of upgrades from jaehoon for like 15 minutes. 8 gateways and a robo was all he had in his base
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Nice to see all 3 races can all-kill.
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Damn Argo is fidgety...
Every time the camera pans to him pre-game, he's always moving around and doing something. I thought he was nervous with facing Stephano but guess not.
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Huge throw by stephano TT
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On January 21 2013 16:35 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote:
I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez Let me break it down for you. Stephano had no chance to make a Hive because he couldn't bank enough gas to produce hive tech units. Argo could have attacked Stephano and won if he had went for Hive tech because he would have had to sacrifice Roach/Hydra production. Argo kept tabs on Stephanos lair with the warp Prism and Zealots in the main base. So, you people that are claiming that he was "too stubborn to make infestor" or would have won "ez if he went straight to hive" are overlooking these strategical elements. Stephano had no chance to go for either due.
Stephano going hydra at all was a mistake. He should've teched straight to infestor. Of course after investing several production cycles in hydra's he couldn't afford hive or an infestation pit. But that shouldn't have been the situation in the first place.
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On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote:
I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez
You obviously don't know the definition of "all-in."
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On January 21 2013 16:24 ppshchik wrote:
Stephano would've died to Jaehoon's timing if he teched to infestors. It is also hard for Zerg to take a 4th base in a 3 base vs 3 base ZvP. Going for hydras was the correct decision.
Am I crazy or are you crazy?
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On January 21 2013 16:33 Kergy wrote:
is Jaehoon still T8's captain?
No, that would be Terminator (Sang).
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On January 21 2013 16:35 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote:
I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez Let me break it down for you. Stephano had no chance to make a Hive because he couldn't bank enough gas to produce hive tech units. Argo could have attacked Stephano and won if he had went for Hive tech because he would have had to sacrifice Roach/Hydra production. Argo kept tabs on Stephanos lair with the warp Prism and Zealots in the main base. So, you people that are claiming that he was "too stubborn to make infestor" or would have won "ez if he went straight to hive" are overlooking these strategical elements. Stephano had no chance to go for either due to the situation he was in.
wrong. stephano was miles ahead directly after defending the 2base attack. if stephano zipped to hive right after that while controlling the center he would have won. argo woulda had a way later third and stephano would get infestors in time to beat any future attack
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Wonder how Jaehoon is enjoying the game, I remember he was considering quitting not long after the transition
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On January 21 2013 16:35 bankobauss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:33 Dosey wrote:On January 21 2013 16:30 dsousa wrote:On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote:
I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez He stubbornly refused to make infestors that game. He probably still would have won, but Argo made all the right FF's and controlled every engagement. Again, it's not that he refused, it's that he COULDN'T after losing so badly at Jaehoons third. The game was pretty much lost there unless Jaehoon went into Failhoon mode and forgot to press FFFFFF. wrong. before stephano "lost badly at jaehoons third" he was massively ahead in supply/economy after defending the 2base attack. if instead of suiciding into jaehoons third, stephano just zipped to hive ASAP at the moment he repelled the attack and just conhtrolled the center, infestors would be out to stop any future attacks in time, then broodlords follow
Thank you for agreeing with me...?
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On January 21 2013 16:35 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:33 Dosey wrote:On January 21 2013 16:30 dsousa wrote:On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote:
I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez He stubbornly refused to make infestors that game. He probably still would have won, but Argo made all the right FF's and controlled every engagement. Again, it's not that he refused, it's that he COULDN'T after losing so badly at Jaehoons third. The game was pretty much lost there unless Jaehoon went into Failhoon mode and forgot to press FFFFFF. If he had pre-built the infestation pit instead of the spire (he made the spire I think 2 mins after the first all in) maybe he would have gotten infestors. But he expected colossi and it never came.
Even if he had of pre-built it he wouldn't have enough gas to make them. Keep in mind to do this he would have had to cut roach/hydra production. If he had cut his production he would have died to Jaehoon's force.
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Feeling like it's gonna be Failhoon
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