• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:48
CET 10:48
KST 18:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2682 users

[SPL] EG-Liquid vs Samsung KHAN R2 - Page 34

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 92 Next
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
January 14 2013 09:49 GMT
#661
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.



Stork could have walked cross map and killed Hero for most of the game. He finally did attack when it was too late and Hero caught up. Seems like his understanding of the game is not the best yet
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
January 14 2013 09:49 GMT
#662
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#663
On January 14 2013 18:46 lbmaian wrote:
HotS cannot come soon enough -_-

I'm normally a HerO fan, but after all the early mistakes, I don't think he should have won due to a single 10 sec battle.

I guess we're just going to ignore the huge mistake Stork made while doing all this complaining...?
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#664
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.


Roaches.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#665
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.

wondering if anyone expected him to show good results actually)
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#666
Good job HerO i'm proud of you...you can loose now cause i jut realized you're in my anti team xD
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#667
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.



lol micro?? Micro???! Micro was zeal goon/storm/reaver shuttle play with 200/200 armies. SC2 is 7-8 colossi being spread out. Sigh..... I like the early game sentry/stalker/zealot ramp control of SC2 pvp, and the later warp prism/immortal play. Why, WHY does it have to devolve into this joke of a colossi war.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#668
On January 14 2013 18:49 Alaiz wrote:
20 min into pew pew -> GG
Strok tried some multi-pronged attacks with good harassements, had more probes and bases, had the advantage all the game, then suddenly he lost everything he had because he wanted to be offensive... PvP in SC2 has no sense.


Honestly the only time you should attack in a colossus vs colossus situation is when you have the clear advantage or you have a mothership with a vortex.

The vortex isnt for the archon toilet its to chop the army in half so you can kill 1 half that's outside.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#669
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

they gave the other guy the pink color, not stephano.
that was what broke his confidence
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#670
On January 14 2013 18:50 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.

wondering if anyone expected him to show good results actually)

He'll do ok in ZvT and ZvP but he'll probably just get sniped in ZvZ each time he comes out
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4528 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#671
On January 14 2013 18:48 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.


is there any part of you that wants the game to be a little more interesting than that?

I'm explaining to you the reason why that 10+ mins of outplaying is almost irrelevant once you reach the late stages of pvp.

My feelings on how the state of pvp is from a viewers standpoint is irrelevant.
hi. big fan.
Mikelius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany517 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#672
On January 14 2013 18:49 Alaiz wrote:
20 min into pew pew -> GG
Strok tried some multi-pronged attacks with good harassements, had more probes and bases, had the advantage all the game, then suddenly he lost everything he had because he wanted to be offensive... PvP in SC2 has no sense.

Stork did the equivalent of walking marines into a siege line, there's no excuse for that attack. Yes, he had the advantage, but the fuck up was on him.
Less QQ, more PewPew
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#673
On January 14 2013 18:50 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.

wondering if anyone expected him to show good results actually)

50% win rate is not that bad. Curse his ZvZ though....
Support TONY best TONY
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
January 14 2013 09:52 GMT
#674
On January 14 2013 18:50 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:46 lbmaian wrote:
HotS cannot come soon enough -_-

I'm normally a HerO fan, but after all the early mistakes, I don't think he should have won due to a single 10 sec battle.

I guess we're just going to ignore the huge mistake Stork made while doing all this complaining...?


Yes, obviously Stork made a huge mistake in attacking. But I'm talking about game design. Deathball vs. deathball -> GG is not fun to watch.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4528 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 09:53:07
January 14 2013 09:52 GMT
#675
On January 14 2013 18:50 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.



lol micro?? Micro???! Micro was zeal goon/storm/reaver shuttle play with 200/200 armies. SC2 is 7-8 colossi being spread out. Sigh..... I like the early game sentry/stalker/zealot ramp control of SC2 pvp, and the later warp prism/immortal play. Why, WHY does it have to devolve into this joke of a colossi war.

Go home SamsungStar, you are drunk.
hi. big fan.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 14 2013 09:52 GMT
#676
stork has subpar micro...
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 14 2013 09:52 GMT
#677
On January 14 2013 18:50 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.



lol micro?? Micro???! Micro was zeal goon/storm/reaver shuttle play with 200/200 armies. SC2 is 7-8 colossi being spread out. Sigh..... I like the early game sentry/stalker/zealot ramp control of SC2 pvp, and the later warp prism/immortal play. Why, WHY does it have to devolve into this joke of a colossi war.

I am also wondering how so many players can talk about micro there.
But then again, these must be the same players that say protoss is the race that has to micro the most...
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 14 2013 09:53 GMT
#678
So, the four concepts of SC2 are. Micro, Macro, 1a and Sit.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 14 2013 09:53 GMT
#679
On January 14 2013 18:52 lbmaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:50 Dosey wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:46 lbmaian wrote:
HotS cannot come soon enough -_-

I'm normally a HerO fan, but after all the early mistakes, I don't think he should have won due to a single 10 sec battle.

I guess we're just going to ignore the huge mistake Stork made while doing all this complaining...?


Yes, obviously Stork made a huge mistake in attacking. But I'm talking about game design. Deathball vs. deathball -> GG is not fun to watch.

So.... HerO doesn't deserve to win because.......?
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 14 2013 09:53 GMT
#680
On January 14 2013 18:51 msl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:50 letian wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.

wondering if anyone expected him to show good results actually)

50% win rate is not that bad. Curse his ZvZ though....

ZvZ is definately his absolutely worst MU, also he has no 50% against Korean Z, whereas he sure has a good ZvP, ZvT even vs Koreans
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 92 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 35522
Calm 13571
GuemChi 1373
BeSt 829
actioN 495
Soma 184
EffOrt 91
sorry 88
ToSsGirL 84
Hm[arnc] 75
[ Show more ]
Backho 46
Barracks 43
Dewaltoss 37
NaDa 33
HiyA 30
JulyZerg 28
IntoTheRainbow 26
Rush 23
GoRush 22
ivOry 14
Terrorterran 11
SilentControl 9
Dota 2
XaKoH 615
NeuroSwarm157
League of Legends
JimRising 620
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1307
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King106
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor249
MindelVK6
Other Games
Fuzer 43
ZerO(Twitch)0
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream16502
Other Games
gamesdonequick770
ComeBackTV 302
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 20
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 64
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1692
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling143
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12m
CranKy Ducklings3
RSL Revival
12m
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
Tasteless39
WardiTV Team League
2h 12m
Patches Events
7h 12m
BSL
10h 12m
GSL
22h 12m
Wardi Open
1d 2h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
WardiTV Team League
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.