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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
January 14 2013 09:49 GMT
#661
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.



Stork could have walked cross map and killed Hero for most of the game. He finally did attack when it was too late and Hero caught up. Seems like his understanding of the game is not the best yet
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
January 14 2013 09:49 GMT
#662
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#663
On January 14 2013 18:46 lbmaian wrote:
HotS cannot come soon enough -_-

I'm normally a HerO fan, but after all the early mistakes, I don't think he should have won due to a single 10 sec battle.

I guess we're just going to ignore the huge mistake Stork made while doing all this complaining...?
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2548 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#664
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.


Roaches.
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#665
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.

wondering if anyone expected him to show good results actually)
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#666
Good job HerO i'm proud of you...you can loose now cause i jut realized you're in my anti team xD
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#667
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.



lol micro?? Micro???! Micro was zeal goon/storm/reaver shuttle play with 200/200 armies. SC2 is 7-8 colossi being spread out. Sigh..... I like the early game sentry/stalker/zealot ramp control of SC2 pvp, and the later warp prism/immortal play. Why, WHY does it have to devolve into this joke of a colossi war.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
January 14 2013 09:50 GMT
#668
On January 14 2013 18:49 Alaiz wrote:
20 min into pew pew -> GG
Strok tried some multi-pronged attacks with good harassements, had more probes and bases, had the advantage all the game, then suddenly he lost everything he had because he wanted to be offensive... PvP in SC2 has no sense.


Honestly the only time you should attack in a colossus vs colossus situation is when you have the clear advantage or you have a mothership with a vortex.

The vortex isnt for the archon toilet its to chop the army in half so you can kill 1 half that's outside.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#669
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

they gave the other guy the pink color, not stephano.
that was what broke his confidence
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#670
On January 14 2013 18:50 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.

wondering if anyone expected him to show good results actually)

He'll do ok in ZvT and ZvP but he'll probably just get sniped in ZvZ each time he comes out
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#671
On January 14 2013 18:48 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.


is there any part of you that wants the game to be a little more interesting than that?

I'm explaining to you the reason why that 10+ mins of outplaying is almost irrelevant once you reach the late stages of pvp.

My feelings on how the state of pvp is from a viewers standpoint is irrelevant.
hi. big fan.
Mikelius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany517 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#672
On January 14 2013 18:49 Alaiz wrote:
20 min into pew pew -> GG
Strok tried some multi-pronged attacks with good harassements, had more probes and bases, had the advantage all the game, then suddenly he lost everything he had because he wanted to be offensive... PvP in SC2 has no sense.

Stork did the equivalent of walking marines into a siege line, there's no excuse for that attack. Yes, he had the advantage, but the fuck up was on him.
Less QQ, more PewPew
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
January 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#673
On January 14 2013 18:50 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.

wondering if anyone expected him to show good results actually)

50% win rate is not that bad. Curse his ZvZ though....
Support TONY best TONY
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
January 14 2013 09:52 GMT
#674
On January 14 2013 18:50 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:46 lbmaian wrote:
HotS cannot come soon enough -_-

I'm normally a HerO fan, but after all the early mistakes, I don't think he should have won due to a single 10 sec battle.

I guess we're just going to ignore the huge mistake Stork made while doing all this complaining...?


Yes, obviously Stork made a huge mistake in attacking. But I'm talking about game design. Deathball vs. deathball -> GG is not fun to watch.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 09:53:07
January 14 2013 09:52 GMT
#675
On January 14 2013 18:50 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.



lol micro?? Micro???! Micro was zeal goon/storm/reaver shuttle play with 200/200 armies. SC2 is 7-8 colossi being spread out. Sigh..... I like the early game sentry/stalker/zealot ramp control of SC2 pvp, and the later warp prism/immortal play. Why, WHY does it have to devolve into this joke of a colossi war.

Go home SamsungStar, you are drunk.
hi. big fan.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 14 2013 09:52 GMT
#676
stork has subpar micro...
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 14 2013 09:52 GMT
#677
On January 14 2013 18:50 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:45 FataLe wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:43 Arceus wrote:
10+ mins of outplaying < 10s of laser tag

micro and positioning reign supreme in PVP lategame.

the early + mid game almost count for nothing once it reaches that stage.



lol micro?? Micro???! Micro was zeal goon/storm/reaver shuttle play with 200/200 armies. SC2 is 7-8 colossi being spread out. Sigh..... I like the early game sentry/stalker/zealot ramp control of SC2 pvp, and the later warp prism/immortal play. Why, WHY does it have to devolve into this joke of a colossi war.

I am also wondering how so many players can talk about micro there.
But then again, these must be the same players that say protoss is the race that has to micro the most...
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 14 2013 09:53 GMT
#678
So, the four concepts of SC2 are. Micro, Macro, 1a and Sit.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 14 2013 09:53 GMT
#679
On January 14 2013 18:52 lbmaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:50 Dosey wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:46 lbmaian wrote:
HotS cannot come soon enough -_-

I'm normally a HerO fan, but after all the early mistakes, I don't think he should have won due to a single 10 sec battle.

I guess we're just going to ignore the huge mistake Stork made while doing all this complaining...?


Yes, obviously Stork made a huge mistake in attacking. But I'm talking about game design. Deathball vs. deathball -> GG is not fun to watch.

So.... HerO doesn't deserve to win because.......?
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 14 2013 09:53 GMT
#680
On January 14 2013 18:51 msl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:50 letian wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:49 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:49 Killmouse wrote:
how did stephano loose?

Quickly.

wondering if anyone expected him to show good results actually)

50% win rate is not that bad. Curse his ZvZ though....

ZvZ is definately his absolutely worst MU, also he has no 50% against Korean Z, whereas he sure has a good ZvP, ZvT even vs Koreans
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