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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:33 Phustus wrote: can someone who knows how PvZ works explain how soulkey could have defended that push if you are patient infestors can pop and you are screwed. | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:34 xAdra wrote: Why would they not put out a zerg against...anything? No one wants to go for PvP, it's a coinflip, unless you are a genius at the ensemble of PvP cheeses like mvpTails. Or Inca. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:35 Shellshock1122 wrote: I dont really see Rain losing to anyone left on Woongjin Stars but I suppose bigger upsets have happened Cure rolled earlier. Weird stuff happens. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:34 skYTosS wrote: btw, bid for parting should finished already, any insider knows which teams bid for him. I'm not an insider. Do you know? | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:36 GreyKnight wrote: if you are patient infestors can pop and you are screwed. If Zerg is teching to infestors, the Protoss should be able to push in much earlier. | ||
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vAtAZz
France250 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
Cure has been rolling for weeks. | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
It seems so obvious to me. They always fail with mass roach because they just build units that are bad against it... | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:38 graNite wrote: Why dont zerg players just go muta vs sentry immortal? It seems so obvious to me. They always fail with mass roach because they just build units that are bad against it... I would say because you don't get many mutas by the time the push gets to your 3rd and protoss can easily warp in a bunch of stalkers. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:35 grapedog wrote: Like others have said, make him burn FF's out in the open while he is moving to your base. Try to engage from multiple sides causing him to burn more forcefields. Rain was smart in that he brought plenty of sentry's with him knowing map. It's really really hard to defend even if you get everything to go your way regardless. It's a tough situation. The zerg needs enough units to be worth using forcefields (you can't just ran 20 lings into the army, the toss will just a-move over it), then beyond this, sometimes the protoss knows you're trying to bait and don't fall for it. If you want to have a decent amount of units at their end of the map when they move out, you have to stop at like 50 drones. So if you want to wait till 60ish drones, you don't have a good size army till he's on your side of the map, and you have slow roaches that are easy to segment off and kill. Baiting forcefields and whatnot is correct, but it's a lot harder to execute it properly | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:38 graNite wrote: Why dont zerg players just go muta vs sentry immortal? It seems so obvious to me. They always fail with mass roach because they just build units that are bad against it... Use warp prism to warp in stalkers? | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5524 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:38 graNite wrote: Why dont zerg players just go muta vs sentry immortal? It seems so obvious to me. They always fail with mass roach because they just build units that are bad against it... If it was that easy people would do it all the time. NesTea is good at it, but it's somewhat of a gamble... base races and all. | ||
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dinosrwar
1290 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:38 vAtAZz wrote: Why is the korean lagging so much? A plot to make us suffer through Whiplash and SNM probably. UGH. | ||
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skYTosS
United States188 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:38 graNite wrote: Why dont zerg players just go muta vs sentry immortal? It seems so obvious to me. They always fail with mass roach because they just build units that are bad against it... Muta tech is too late, this attack is clearly earlier than standard muta timing. It also doesn't make sense for zerg to go early 2-base muta tech if they don't have any info about protoss's tech. And that will be too obvious for protoss. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
 ...anyway Go Go sHy!Time to get back on the horse! | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5524 Posts
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mrbamboo
United States415 Posts
but I do want to see Light or Bravo to close out the final game  | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:35 Shellshock1122 wrote: I dont really see Rain losing to anyone left on Woongjin Stars but I suppose bigger upsets have happened While still solid it is still his worst matchup. Just because it's his worst matchup doesn't mean he's bad at it. Of course they aren't going to send a zerg on Ohana because that's suicide but it wasn't a bad decision imo on Antiga. People are learning to defend in immortal sentry push. Soulkey just didn't. PvZ is Rain's worst matchup? Don't make me laugh :p | ||
opterown
Australia54785 Posts
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