EPT15min to setup a game, complete the game and then find a new one? How short are these games lol.
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
15min to setup a game, complete the game and then find a new one? How short are these games lol. | ||
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tiMelEfT
United States228 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:38 opterown wrote: even still you still need to search for games, eat, gym, bathroom, etc. and the KR ladder isn't always teeming with games, especially high GM from about morning to early afternoon. unless the games are 100% inhouse, it's really really hard to pull off. 16 hours practice with 1 hour eating, that's 15 hours. Constant playing for 15 hours guarantees more than 60 games. And he probably slept less than 8 hours the day before official matches anyway, that will give him probably close to 18 hours the day before. Even 4 hours sleep is not a surprise. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:42 Mask DeMasque wrote: Does this mean EGTL's loss would be -4? I believe so yes. | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:42 bo1b wrote: A meaningful game isn't against a trainer, and a meaningful game is a full game. Who said something about a meaningful game? The discussion was if Flash actually played SC2 for said hours and if he did ladder. Edit: also the most meaning full game/s for me have been against the AI, simply refining my building timings. | ||
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Nukid
United States240 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
only -2 | ||
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.Wraath
United States262 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:42 decado90 wrote: This is a bad mindset that is very typical of foreign players. Tell a chess grandmaster that 12 hours of chess in a day is too much. of course, i am very up for high numbers of games and training, but there simply is no time. a meaningful game = full macro game, no BO counter or cheese wins, not micro training etc. at average game length of about 20 minutes and accounting for food, bathroom, gym, other commitments and stuff, 60 games is 20+ hours. which is doablleeeee but very difficult in a day. | ||
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Serpico
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12379 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:34 Guimsbla wrote: Why would u say esf ? I never said that. I said, sc2 before Kespa move. Learn how to read before your next answer please. And please bring more "points" than a unique accumulation of un-argued useless words. It works against childs, not against growups Please don't act like you're here to argue. You just have something to say and you're shaping up the facts to say it for you. Let's do it once anyway : Your point of view : - EG-TL is doing okayish / bad in Proleague : OMFG Non-Kespa is so bad, Sc2 before kespa was shit. My answer : a) It's wrong : That's EG-TL, not "non-kespa". Zenio, Puma, JYP were already not doing that good against other non-kespa players. Jaedong isn't doing that good yet either and Thorzain isn't code S level despite his foreign *results*. b) it's made with a purpose: The only way someone would look at this proleague and deduce what you brought up is if he wanted to see it in the first place. c) it's counterproductive: Why do we have to antagonize the two? Wouldn't it be better if we could just all work together to figure out the game, rather than be on one side and shit on the other side's face? d) it's pointless: I'll just let you explain the point of your statement, and resort to evil laugh while you fail at defining it. e) it's stupid: That's a rather generic note based on the other 4, and the whole idiocy of wanting to make this a debate. Also, it always make you look way cooler when you have 5 points rather than 4. Kind of like a bow-tie. | ||
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L0L
United States176 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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Sgany
United Kingdom790 Posts
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Anta
Germany434 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:42 jidolboy wrote: And how would you know this? Im pretty sure he can afford more than one. why should he use other accounts? he does't need secrecy. everybody knows that as mentioned by many pros. it's hard to believe, i know, especially when all other train like the whole day often on IIIIIIIIII accs. but thats's just how it is. even snute mentioned it recently how much he hates stephano for being so talented and no need of much training unlike himself who has to train pretty hard. (he not really hates stephano, but the fact that doesn't has to train not nearly as much) | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:43 tiMelEfT wrote: 16 hours practice with 1 hour eating, that's 15 hours. Constant playing for 15 hours guarantees more than 60 games. And he probably slept less than 8 hours the day before official matches anyway, that will give him probably close to 18 hours the day before. Even 4 hours sleep is not a surprise. constantly playing for 15 hours at ~20 minute average games is about 45 games, not sixty i guess. 40-45 games i think is a realistic number, not the 60 that is quoted. maybe sometimes on certain days he reaches 60, but i expect more like 40 games per day. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:43 bo1b wrote: 15min to setup a game, complete the game and then find a new one? How short are these games lol. I believe most kespa players mass practice games against their teamates. No waiting. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:43 tiMelEfT wrote: 16 hours practice with 1 hour eating, that's 15 hours. Constant playing for 15 hours guarantees more than 60 games. And he probably slept less than 8 hours the day before official matches anyway, that will give him probably close to 18 hours the day before. Even 4 hours sleep is not a surprise. You think hes getting 4 hours of sleep before official matches? Did you ever study for exams, and notice that getting 0 sleep before never paid off? | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:45 opterown wrote: of course, i am very up for high numbers of games and training, but there simply is no time. a meaningful game = full macro game, no BO counter or cheese wins, not micro training etc. at average game length of about 20 minutes and accounting for food, bathroom, gym, other commitments and stuff, 60 games is 20+ hours. which is doablleeeee but very difficult in a day. I don't see how practicing cheese/pressure or defending these things so well you win outright is not meaningful... Practicing 'meaningful' macro games all day won't get you that far in proleague. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
The KT Rolster team for 6pts money was a great deal though. Definitely worth it. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On January 06 2013 14:45 opterown wrote: of course, i am very up for high numbers of games and training, but there simply is no time. a meaningful game = full macro game, no BO counter or cheese wins, not micro training etc. at average game length of about 20 minutes and accounting for food, bathroom, gym, other commitments and stuff, 60 games is 20+ hours. which is doablleeeee but very difficult in a day. game = game, what is this talk about "meaningful" games lol .. it's such a pervasive mindset w/ foreigners that only prolonged macro games matter, when to Koreans the only thing that matters is the win | ||
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